Has anyone the energy to cope with this..

[hilly]

Morgellons---what fibers? : White Coat Underground

What can one say ;<(

[carla]

I posted a few well chosen comments the other day Hilly but he has deleted them.
It is the new morgellons watch I'm afraid. Even 'Micheal' is posting comments there.
Don't let it bother you . I've given up on the Medical Establishment.
Common Purpose took over years ago.

[Sadsack]

PalMD is one of a few "doctors" who are blogging all over the place - right, the "new MorgWatch".
Niels Myer has tracked these guys down and they are all the same, behind all these blogs.
Me thinketh thou doth protest too much.
Their game is very obvious as a concerted disinformation effort.
If that fat f$ck "PalMD" is an actual doctor, he clearly doesn't have a practice. He wouldn't have time to be all over the internet (just like Michael West was) all the time and hold down a job.
I wonder how well Monsanto pays? Or is it the Military?

SS

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by hilly

Morgellons---what fibers? : White Coat Underground

What can one say ;<(

Actually.....he wrote....

".....How much trouble would it be to post a recruitment notice on a morgellons website and have samples from a few hundred patients sent to a couple of independent pathologists?

Either there is a ubiquitous conspiracy to suppress this strange new knowledge, or the researchers involved are completely incompetent. "



Those statements could be directed at the CDC......How difficult can it be to recruit people say, from this forum...who are NOT necessarily already patients of Kaiser Perm. to take samples from?

And I'm still curious about Clongen being involved with the CDC? And claiming there not to be parasites involved?

Kritts

[Sadsack]

Kritters
I, too, wonder about the involvement of Clongen (Dr. Kilani, who is associated with the MRF) and the CDC.
Anyone know when the MRF will release their "Phase II" results? They announced this study about 6 months ago when they released the "Phase I" results (the hot water tank study). It is supposed to examine the pathogens found in a Morgellons sufferer. (I think just one person - maybe more?).
SS

[weredIgo]

Hi everyone,
We all have figured out that there is a cover up. Straight to crazy, the way dr's don't want us as patients, no testing and even if they do, everything is always fine. These sites totally devoted to debunking and always pushing the dop thing. The guestion that haunts me is WHY? There's something they know that we don't and they desperately don't want us to know either. All I can figure is parasites must be the be all end all for human repulsion. Dr's are people too. Like Sadsack said they protest too much. There is something more going on here. We all can't be crazy and the evidence is there to see to any one that will look. They do not want this information out. It's like a bad cancer you can't kill. I wonder if disease is like in the movie The Green Mile. People are dropping like flies over at the LB site lately. So upsetting to read about. It always seems to be a very slow growing cancer they come out with after someone dies. If you read these peoples stories before they pass, they are going through the same things we are, so what is cancer? This is all just my opinion.I just walked over to get a cup of coffee and something came out of my thumb.
WE better start looking into parasitic spiders. How does one get something like this. This is a nightmare. I'm so tired and tired of dealing with this. I'm seeing signs in my whole family. My daughter in law is starting to get sores. Thats another thing, I say they know about this as I have said before and how they could keep quiet and let this spread is evil. Every derm dr I go to stays back from me. Well, other dr's too. One thing about it, they create doubt . That seems to be the purpose, to the point of we can see things right before our eyes and doubt ourselves. It really does say alot that so much effort is put into debunking. Where there is smoke there is fire.


Claudia

[weredIgo]

Hi Katinka,
What a big soup mix we all have going on with us. Every time I think I've maybe gotten some of this figured out, something else shows up. Worms, flies, ants, spiders and beetle looking things. Our skin really is a sponge. I had great skin, except was allergic to everything. Used Dove soap all my life. Chemicals and perfumes made me sick. I feel I've had this mess since early childhood. Mosqitoes always loved me. Makes me wonder if every bite from whatever injected me. Maybe this builds up all your life and then one day all hell breaks loose. If somehow this mess is the base for all disease maybe allergy is when we are irritating the organisms. What is it that makes us so attractive to these things? Started to use a body scrub brush in the shower lately. Even though I rinsed and rinsed the shower down before I got out, there were these light colored ants or spiders all clustered together on the floor on the mat that I stood on. It just seems its one thing after another with this mess. I still feel though that there is a common thread we all have. You know, after you deal with this disease day in and day out you cannot even read what the debunkers have to say anymore. It seems silly to even argue with them any more, because it is obvious they don't know what they are talking about. Oh, if you concentrate real hard as you look at the computer screen (kind of squint) you can see what these things look like (the shape) in your eyes. Anyone else notice this?


Claudia

[Kritters]

Claudia,

Do you mean the floaters? I always try to get a look at them by moving my eye to the side and back quickly, but it never works. I wonder which layer of the eyeball they are in.

Yes, it's kinda like our bodies have become Grand Central Station with all the things coming and going as if we should be grateful they are using us. I pictured ants with little hats and suitcases walking from the eye in your other post. Creature cantina!

Kritts

[Sadsack]

I think there are parasite-like things involved in Morgellons....BUT....if this is simply a parasitic disease then they would be out with it already, and a cure wouldn't be too difficult to figure out.
A lot more is going on, and YES, there is indeed a cover-up.
I worked in mental health all my career, and have a lot of up close and personal experience with individuals who are truly paranoid. I know the difference, and have never suffered from it in my life.
So I am not paranoid...just looking at the evidence...the strangeness of this "affliction", the reluctance of the people who SHOULD be all over this to get involved, the snails pace of the CDC along with the disgustingly paltry budget for studying a global epidemic....
CDC - WHO - FDA - NASA - UN - whoever else is reading these pages to see how close we are getting, we have a message for you:
We WILL NOT STOP until the truth is out. There are too many of us now, too connected to each other, too angry, and too concerned about the future of the planet. We might be sick and broke and disinfranchised in many respects, but never underestimate the power of the human spirit. We WILL prevail.

SS

[weredIgo]

Hi Everybody,
I've tried to get to this all day. Have had a headache all day. First off you tell um SS. Thank you for the shout out Jonsie. Kritters yes I was talking about the floaters. Have not seen any hats and suitcases yet LOL. These so called floaters ( I say that because I didn't have them or flashes of light before this mess)( at least not that obstructed my vision) in my eyes don't move except when my eyes move. They do make you think that something flew by when I shift my eyes quickly. I'm able on a bright computer screen to squint and move my eyes in a way that I can catch glimpses of what they look like. It's very hard to do because you can't ever keep your eyes still. No matter how hard you try, you can't keep them still. To me they look like (ok here we go) bundles of fibers with legs with lines running from them. Sometimes along those lines there will be another one. Also my right eye has one large kind of half moon triangle shape at the 1:00 area to the right of the iris. Thats the best I can decribe what I see. Hope someone else can catch a glimpse of this too. I'd like to know if they see the same thing.

My theory on this is, this starts as some kind of blood infection. Maybe like impetigo. Whether tat involves parasites or not I don't know. I suspect it does. It spreads through the body and we become carriers. Through our lives any trauma or stress agrivates it. Then one day through a series of stressful events (neck operation,house being gutted because of mold,8 months living in nasty camper an on car porch till construction gets done,sub standard quality of work,death of husband, life turned up side down,stress and sadness)and your health being down, all hell breaks loose. One day my primary dr looked me straight in the eye and said "You get sores because of your picking". Now who can help but pick(these things are so painful) but gut feeling, she was trying to tell me something. For me I do know you have to be careful not spread this stuff (the blood, the goo, whatever). Then some how this condition makes us a magnet for all the other weird stuff. I think its not a simple parasitic disease. They can't cure it and they feel if they told us what we have, people would be offing themselves all over the place. There should be a better way because this dop thing is simply too insulting to live with. I think this gets into every part of the body and reeks havoc.

Claudia