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Old June 8th, 2009, 03:42 PM
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Morgellons Research Organization to fight Morgellons syndrome caused from bacterial-fungal GMO used as bio-insectizide

Information on the newest Lyme/Borreliosis + EBV + EMV Test
The new, highly sensitive immunological Elispot Test (Enzymes Linked Immunospot Assay) offers the possibility
of release of the cell messenger materials (Zytokines) after a specific antigene contact to e.g. by Borrelia.
Thereby can a Borrelia infection be already reliably diagnosed in the early phase of the illness.


Indication of Borrelia specific Elispot Assay Test

  • Elispot Assay for the early recognition (after 2-3 weeks) of a Borrelia infection.
  • On suspicion of a fresh or older infection with former unclear Serology.
  • Differentiation between chronic or completely healed infection.
  • Therapy control after usual medical treatments.
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The Elispot is 20- 200 time more sensitive than an ELISA test. One cell under
100.000 reactive cells are detectablly. As well in contrary to the LTT- Melisa® test
etc., a direct proof of the antigene-specific Zytokines release is possible.
Elispot Price: 120 Euro = approx. $180 Dollars

Method:
The Elispot Assay is based on the proof of an antigene-specific Zytokines-secretion by reactive Lymphozyts. T-Lymphozyts are stimulated by an interesting antigene, e.g. by Borrelia spec. If this leads to a antigene-specific release of Zytokines, these are bound by monoclonal anti-bodies, which cover irreversibly the ground of the reaction container (Spots), and made visible by a further secondary anti-body.
The number and intensity of developing Spots is a measure for the reactivity of the Lymphozyts and permits a statement about, if the examined T-Lymphozyts had become already in contact with the interesting antigene.
In the early phase of a Borrelia infection, often over several weeks still none or too small anti-body concentrations are present, in order to furnish a safe serological proof. The Borrelia specific Elispot fills out this diagnostic gap. Thereby is the interferon gamma release of the T-Lymphozyten measured, which had contact to Borrelia antigenes.
Such antigene-dependent Lymphozyt activation is often clearly present before a measurable rise of the anti-body titers. The test principle is such sensitive, that just one individual reactive borrelia cell is already provable. Therefore, can the Borrelia specific In addition of Serology does the Elispot test supply important additional information in the evaluation of an early Borrelia infection. Also to check a therapy process, the Borrelia specific Elispot is suitable.
After an effective e.g antibiotic treatment and the elimination of the exciters, the measurable Lymphozyts answer becomes predominantly negative approx. 4-6 weeks after therapy. The Elispot result informs therefore about the effectiveness of an antibiotic therapy and the possibly necessary duration of a further treatment.



Please contact us for further information, we are sending to you or to your doctor all necessary
if you want to optain the T-Cellspot test also in your country, for being definitely sure or for disability.
Elispot Price: 120 Euro = approx. $180 Dollars
contact@morgellons-research.org





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Old June 8th, 2009, 04:59 PM
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Katinka -
I had a little trouble understanding the post. Is it one test that can detect borellia, EBV, AND EMV all at the same time?
Also, is this something you send away for, or ask your doctor to do?? Being in the US, it seems like he is saying that we can "buy" the test?? I am unaccustomed to test kits that you can do at home without a lab. Or is it something you send into a lab....of course, they would have to be set up to do the analysis...so...where does the $180 come in??
Duh....

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Katinka -
I had a little trouble understanding the post. Is it one test that can detect borellia, EBV, AND EMV all at the same time?
Also, is this something you send away for, or ask your doctor to do?? Being in the US, it seems like he is saying that we can "buy" the test?? I am unaccustomed to test kits that you can do at home without a lab. Or is it something you send into a lab....of course, they would have to be set up to do the analysis...so...where does the $180 come in??
Duh....

SS

Hi Sadsack, for what I understand this new test cannot only test for Borrelia but also for EBV and EMV...so I think so...it's the newest test on the medical market right now.

I'm not sure what Marc Neumann is trying to say or what contacts he has...because you cannot send blood samples from the US over to Europe in one day..so I think maybe if you are interested just contact him?
My Lyme doc over here did this test on me...and told me that my antibodies show that I have this disease over 20 years....can you imagine?
I have never noticed anything...but now after I think about it..now I know why I was always so tired and weak.

I believe the best way to find out what he actually means is to contact him although I cannot imagine him having contacts to docs in the US...hmm...Stricker maybe...

This test is for what I know is not done in the USA...so I don't know how he wants to manage that...maybe he sends kits over to US docs??

Kind of strange if you ask me...he does sound quite scurrile sometimes....lol...but it's worth asking!

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Katinka -
Scurrile?? Lol...a very unusual word!! Woke me from my afternoon lethargy.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 05:18 PM
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Scurrile?? Lol...a very unusual word!! Woke me from my afternoon lethargy.
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Old June 9th, 2009, 06:49 PM
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I like that word also, but wiki says it means 'archaic' ????
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Old June 9th, 2009, 07:10 PM
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Morgellons Research Organization to fight Morgellons syndrome caused from bacterial-fungal GMO used as bio-insectizide


In the case for a Morgellons infection, evident clinical findings are rarely appropriate (See "Diagnosis"), sometime even by a tick infection. Therefore it would be advisable not only with a Morgellons infection to introduce and use the new American Igenex test. Generally that test far exceeds the older test procedures. But more effective is sometime the new intercellular measuring test LTT-Melisa (Lymphozyt-transformation-test) which is more indicating an infection with borrelia.
For being more sure of a borrelia infection, the German test called T-Cellspot is actually one of the best on market. TheT-Cellspot test with the Elispot-Assay is based on the research of antigene-specific zytokinsecretion through reactive Lymphozyts. The T-Cellspot test is actually 200 time more sensitive than the older elisa test(Enzyme Linked Immuno spot Assay). As well it can show pretty soon after an infection a seropositive result and therefore an earlier medical treatment can be started to prevent usual damage, due to a lack of quick recognition of borrelia. Chronic lyme can be tested now also with the CD-57 test.


Germany USA
Starting 3-4 weeks Cefuroxim 2 X daily 500mg. Starting for 10 days with Doxycyclin 2 x daily 200 mg. 1-3 days break
8 days break
Then 3-4 weeks Clarythromycin (Clerimed) 2 X daily 500 mg. Then for 10 days Cefpodoxim 2 x daily Or Roxythromycin, Azithromycin, Minocyclin or Zyvox (check the dosage first)
8 days break
1-3 days break
Then for 10 days Amoxicillin 2 x daily 1000 mg.
Then 2 weeks with Metronidazol (Flagyl) 2 X daily 400 mg.,
8 days break
Or Anti-Malaria drugs as Quensil or Plaquenil
Then for 10 days Erythromycin 3 x daily 500 mg.

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Kammy*, you know what I told you?

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Hey Katink,
I know I'm dense, so can you or someone explain the 1-3 days break vs the 8 day break and when they happen?


xoKritts I think I have it....8 days break in-between the different antibiotics and take a 1-3 day break from each one during the several week period??????

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I like that word also, but wiki says it means 'archaic' ????

It means someone is quite strange...a little bit...bizarre, quirky..
well...let's say different!


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Hey Katink,
I know I'm dense, so can you or someone explain the 1-3 days break vs the 8 day break and when they happen?


xoKritts I think I have it....8 days break in-between the different antibiotics and take a 1-3 day break from each one during the several week period??????

Hey Kritts, scurrile? I told ya! lol.....I don't know why he suggests to take breaks in between antibiotics...it might be his "experience" with USA docs?
It could have something to do in how the body reacts to the antibiotics..herx heimer reactions...and the reason for switching then if this happens?

I took different antibiotics straight through without a break...and I did good with it.

Oh, don't bust your brains about that!!

I think a continuous intake is essential....the antibiotics need to remain in the system at the same level in order to "work" properly...

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