CDC has images now

[jeanlong]

I found this today and will go through to see if the nasty item emerged from my skin looks like one of the organisms in their collection.

DPDx - Parasite Image Library

[Baraka Obam]

This is a excellent site, it means alot to me because I have looked through a microscope for countless hours try to find anything.

I found alot of strange stuff now maybe these things can be identified.

It will take a long time to go through them all and so many will look round with a bunch of grains inside.

I do strait microscoping, no dye so some will not even pertain to me in the way that I could not as yet have seen them. Dye is very important, BUT I have seen several things in blood, urine and poo.

I will look at these when I have a very long time, its super interesting. The one actual moving microscopic worm in my video that should be easy to find if it is in their data base.

Tonight is fun night, I think its ride the bike night.

Three cheers for Jeanlong.

[tcmgpt13]

filariasis... subsubcutaneous and lymphatic (permalink 84)

Dental Toxicities neurocutaneous syndrom (pemalink 59)

filariasis... subsubcutaneous and lymphatic (permalink 14)

Red biting fiber video (permalink 4)

Parasite facts and figures (permalink 2)

[jeanlong]

this is another chapter. . . Now I really am confused. Having the privilege of being able to ask the CDC directly, they actually answered my inquiry fairly quick.

This thing that emerged is not a human parasite but it is an insect. I don't understand.

I don't understand why the CDC has all this info, then . .yet . . all the M patients have parasites and they aren't properly diagnosed...not feeling well today. . . . plus feel frustrated. So if bugs are inside that emerge are not human parasites, what is going on?

I thought this was gonna be easier - find out the parasite name , get the drug treatment best for that. no luck.

Now I only have more questions. are some bugs now mutated to infest humans? Or do M sufferers have a biochem change internally that make them suitable hosts?

Dunno....feel caught up in some sci-fi nightmare.

[sojii]

Jean, did they identify it?

[jonsi]

Hi jean,

I looked at those images and didn't recognize anything familiar to what I have seen coming out of my body. The problem is that "M" has NO cellular structure and can't be identified in any text or by any MD.

I really do believe "M" is man-made and if there was a drug to "cure" us the pharmaceutical companies/Insurance/Md's would have the answer by now.

For me & my young daughter, homeopathic/natural medicine worked for us.
Food is very important too.

Don't eat fast food, or foods with preservatives, read the labels!

I know I sound like a broken record by repeating myself, but my daughter & I are healthy. I will never say I am "cured", but I feel good.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[jeanlong]

two items emerged;one was identified, another not. the one that was not identified is not a known parasite. [ That doesn't mean it is not a parasite.]

The other that was ID'ed is known to be not a human parasite. I don't understand what is going on.

[jonsi]

Hi jeanlong,

It is so confusing. Thank you for posting this info.

BTW, I made a new "friend" on this site and this person said that MDR ppl are doing a great job on research & new information. Thank you everyone for your research & dedication to figuring out what "M" is.

itwl.
~jonsi

[tcmgpt13]

What puzzles me is that you are saying you have talked directly to the CDC? It makes me wonder why doctors are not able to obtain this same information? Surely this would end the DOP issue?

I am sure that anything can infect humans and when it does it then becomes an insect or a parasite which infects humans. It is then a human parasite, but first it has to be recognized by the medical establishment as infecting humans. It may be something new infecting us which was passed on from other warm blooded animals. Parasites are known to jump from animals to humans. This is why I believe M is now being lumped under emerging and zoonotic diseases at the CDC. Frankly I think much of the jump of parasites from animals to humans happened first in other countries. These "new" (from animals) human parasites quite likely came here with the humans who had picked them up from the animals with whom they lived in close proximity in third world countries.

Many have moved to the Western world from areas which have loads of parasites (tropical and subtropical areas on several continents). Many of these people had lived in substandard conditions such as dirt huts, thatched roofs, had no sanitation facilities and often produced foods grown with human "night soil" which is perhaps found on the very produce imported daily into the US from third world countries. I do not remember anyone worrying about getting parasites from produce when I was growing up. Now it appears to be a more important source for spreading disease and parasites than are meat products. Most food used to be grown in the US. Now much produce is imported. Nearly all outbreaks of illness from produce have originated with food grown out of the US.

This is from the emerging zoonotic diseases page at the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/ncezid/):

Emerging and Zoonotic Diseases — At a Glance

Zoonotic diseases: Approximately 75% of recently emerging infectious diseases affecting humans are diseases of animal origin; approximately 60% of all human pathogens are zoonotic.


Refugee health: An estimated 50,000 to 70,000 refugees are resettled to the United States each year. These individuals can suffer from many health conditions— infectious diseases, malnutrition, and post-traumatic stress disorder caused by war. (infectious diseases would include parasitic diseases)

The clue that the CDC has some idea that there is a huge problem involving zoonotic diseases passing from animals to people is the fact that there is a link to emerging zoonotic diseases on one of the unexplained dermopathy pages. It's a bit indirect of an indirect link now as they have not corrected the link, but when you go to the removed page there is another link to the emerging and zoonotic diease page. Perhaps they do not want to be too obvious about the link between M and zoonotic and emerging disease issues? I am pretty sure there's a political agenda, one which is perhaps even holding up known information about M. The link to the zoonotic page is at the very bottom of this page. In three years the new direct link to the emerging and zoonotic diseases link has not been fixed, which is in itself interesting:

General Information | Unexplained Dermopathy (incorrect link to the zoonotic page is small print bottom of page)

Originally Posted by jeanlong

this is another chapter. . . Now I really am confused. Having the privilege of being able to ask the CDC directly, they actually answered my inquiry fairly quick.

This thing that emerged is not a human parasite but it is an insect. I don't understand.

I don't understand why the CDC has all this info, then . .yet . . all the M patients have parasites and they aren't properly diagnosed...not feeling well today. . . . plus feel frustrated. So if bugs are inside that emerge are not human parasites, what is going on?

I thought this was gonna be easier - find out the parasite name , get the drug treatment best for that. no luck.

Now I only have more questions. are some bugs now mutated to infest humans? Or do M sufferers have a biochem change internally that make them suitable hosts?

Dunno....feel caught up in some sci-fi nightmare.

[jeanlong]

right. . . I did 'talk' via email, yes. One must meet certain requirements for them to do the email or have them send a report. [ If one meets their criteria (a pathologist could submit an inquiry that they would respond to in email dialog, but the patient or nurse at the doctor's office where the biopsy sample was taken to be sent to the pathologist could not, but the doctor who took the biopsy could submit an inquiry and get a reply, etc...) they will help you. ]

Doctors are able to obtain quite a bit of info if they make the effort. Most will not push hard. I have pushed because I hate being ill and have repeatedly had severe intermittent episodes of fiber skin problems since last summer. . . plus I am trying to help not just me but others I have seen too, and this is very mysterious. I'd like to help everyone here who suffers. this whole M thing is nuts with doctors insisting people are hallucinatory when there is clearly a physical problem with parasites and/or unusual fiber growths.

I am having an emotional reaction to this whole thing and feel upset.

DOP is a diagnosis frequently used when patients insist they are infested with parasites and none are found. . . HAVE TO ask what if a patient is infested with something that is NOT A KNOWN PARASiTE? there is a physical problem but the way the medical system is set up if the diagnosis is parasite infestation it MUST BE a known one and that one must be specified - usually with physical test result (microsopic exam of tissue for small stuff, stool sample with parasite egg found, skin scraping, biopsy revealing a worm or egg, etc).The implication is M patients are infested with "non-parasite" organisms - which technically makes DOP an easier diagnosis for the MD to use because without an ICD diagnosis code specifying a known parasite the doctor's methods could be questioned by the state medical board, so the doctor has to do the thing to "cover your ***" as they would say in the privacy of a back office. The last scenario that is open is that there are emerging diseases with more/new parasites found in humans which are not yet researched and recognized, much the same way as . . . for example. . . how ulcers are from an infection (only relatively recently are they being treated with antibiotics) and now we understand they are due to a pathogen.

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

What puzzles me is that you are saying you have talked directly to the CDC? It makes me wonder why doctors are not able to obtain this same information? Surely this would end the DOP issue?