photo of M's object, feedback appreciated

[jeanlong]

Hi All,

Yesterday I observed a new M's object that popped out of skin. I had not seen something like this on or coming from skin previously. At first I thought...it's a bug. It was big enough to see without a magnifier then I took two photos. It's sort of a filament like deformed beige, brown and black bee shaped object. Has anyone else seen or had stuff like this? What is this object? see photo in post below.

best regards,
Jean

[tcmgpt13]

Is there some reason you are keeping your websites private since you say you are not selling anything? Jo posts her website here all the time since she, too, claims not to be selling anything. Or is having members contact you the real reason?

[jeanlong]

While tone cannot be conveyed totally in an email or post, why do I feel you are being accusatory?

Well yes there are a couple of reasons. At the time I had not posted the photos yet but was trying, and was having trouble connecting to my host to update my webpages. So if I can't post I'll have to email the pix. I rent space on a host and don't own my own server, but sometimes they're down. Also I thought it was discouraged to post URLs to any websites that I have an interest in. Since the place I post my photos and information is on a website that I run, I was under the impression it was sorta against the rules to post.

returning to my original query, I would like more info and just thought maybe someone else here could clue me in. I am at a loss to find out where to obtain more information about what this object is that has emerged. I asked a couple of my friends and one says an industrial hygienist might know, and the other says to consult an entymologist. I have run into a dead end calling nearby induustrial hygienists and will try UNLV next to see if anybody there knows anything about this. But that has proven a dead end in the past too.

It seems I cannot attach a pix to this post, but it looks like I can insert a URL for a picture, which I'll try to do below, and again to do that I have to first upload the picture to my webserver. Never tried to insert a photo here... dunno if it will work. also thank you to those who send me links to other pictures. Especially I like the photo set (not my pix) at url

Morgellons UK - Campaign - Image Bank

I have seen numerous objects similar to ones in those pictures on me and from others I have examined. Again, at the risk of repeating myself, some of those individuals report not feeling ill and have totally good energy and normal lives. Ok, here's my attempt to attach a photo. OK, if anyone has scientific information about that object I'm all ears. Speculation welcome too.

[lindy2]

Jean,

Where did this come off youir body? It does look centipede like to me, but I know nothing about this sort of thing. I've gotten a lot of good pictures, but most everything looks like fibers with a couple of bug-like things and lots of things that look like a type of slime mold. Was it moving? The color appears brownish beige. If you kept it, did you put it on a slide or into a bottle?

Most of what I get nowadays are specks that turn out to be a slime mold - green to beige. They are all over my house.

Linda

[tcmgpt13]

I truly do feel there is something odd going on when first an acupuncturist has a "friend" with Morgellons and then this same acupuncturist suddenly develops a case of Morgellons and then this same acupuncturist claims to be nearly well again. Then there is the rehash about a certain person who treats neurocutaneous disease (we have had that person pushed here over and over and so far no one we know of has been cured by spending that kind of money). And it became even more interesting when followed by organic socks and pots with no nickel and products which had no BPA. Quite interesting.

[jeanlong]

this one is from my skin; I had an itch on my neck, and then this came off when I touched the itchy spot and I felt it. It's in a baggie zip loc kind. It did not move. It is inert. It's brown to the eye and when magnified shows up with slight black and slight orange spots.

Originally Posted by lindy2

Jean,

Where did this come off youir body? It does look centipede like to me, but I know nothing about this sort of thing. I've gotten a lot of good pictures, but most everything looks like fibers with a couple of bug-like things and lots of things that look like a type of slime mold. Was it moving? The color appears brownish beige. If you kept it, did you put it on a slide or into a bottle?

Most of what I get nowadays are specks that turn out to be a slime mold - green to beige. They are all over my house.

Linda

[jeanlong]

Ok so you are hostile to me and suspicious. I'm actually kinda nice in person and would be happy to help you if there is anything I can do for you that makes sense with regards to my efforts. For example the latest thing I did was extensive reading and review of all my TCM herb material, another review of the HuangDiNeiJing, and then after thinking about it, selected ingredients never before combined to make what I have to call an experimental salve for myself. My skin now some times has a few spots sometimes dry and rough and/or inflamed. I was already taking TCM herbs (raw drafts and decoctions) and was getting impatient, so then I made this new salve, then I gave some to a few people. OK, can we play nice? how about this? Would you like the recipe? Since you have access to TCM herbs, you could make some at home. Or would you like me to send you some of what I made as a gift? I would be happy to do either one, if you think you want to try some on yourself

Sure sounds like you think I’m lying, nasty or dishonest or some combination of those. I'm not lying, and it is true that I know a number of people with fibers, some ill and some not. I do not have anything invested in being ill. I wanted to post with the idea it might aid others so they do not run into the same pitfalls or roadblocks I've encountered.

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

I truly do feel there is something odd going on when first an acupuncturist has a "friend" with Morgellons and then this same acupuncturist suddenly develops a case of Morgellons and then this same acupuncturist claims to be nearly well again. Then there is the rehash about a certain person who treats neurocutaneous disease (we have had that person pushed here over and over and so far no one we know of has been cured by spending that kind of money). And it became even more interesting when followed by organic socks and pots with no nickel and products which had no BPA. Quite interesting.

[scabdraggr]

The photo is definitely of the creature that is causing so much trouble.In most sufferers it is first noticed causing trouble on the skin.With sufferers that have the full blown infestation, that causes total misery, there are stages of this organism's growth present in all areas of the body.You can find them exiting from any of the bodies orifices.As for identifying this life form,good luck as many others are trying to do the same.There is a lot of research being done to combat M and much of it has already moved past this single aspect of M.The researchers that have made great progress have gotten there by investing great amounts of their own time and expense.No one wishes to have their research taken by some one that has little invested but would love to take the credit for it or to use it a manner to profit from it financially.It is quite difficult to determine which individuals are simply trying to come together with other researchers to quickly find a means to stop the suffering and eliminate the spread of this horrible dilemma.There are many individuals which think that they can debunk M and make a name for themselves and use the info to financially better themselves.This is the issue that causes suspicion and distrust among many of us.There needs to be only one agenda,stopping the suffering.The con artists of the world only take and do nothing to further advance the research.Many have come to this site with only their agenda to be be helped.I would love to put all my findings together with the findings of others in order to find the truth but not in order to help someone get rich off the backs of those that have and are suffering greatly.

[jeanlong]

ok thx...well that answers that question, that others with M's has seen this and that its an unknown organism. I took something similar to a dermatologist at the referral of my primary care doctor when this first started, and they sent it to their lab. The lab returned a report saying "no parasite found." They did say only that, did not say what it is, just that it is not a parasite. I have seen 3 similar objects in person. The worst one was not on me, just on a piece of fabric I had bought mail order. The object was large, like about the size of a quarter and it spooked me. I returned the fabric immediately. The other 3rd object was similar shaped and I don't know if it is from my skin or not, and I found it in my home months ago, and it was small, very tiny and with more orange dots inside.

Originally Posted by scabdraggr

The photo is definitely of the creature that is causing so much trouble.In most sufferers it is first noticed causing trouble on the skin.With sufferers that have the full blown infestation, that causes total misery, there are stages of this organism's growth present in all areas of the body.You can find them exiting from any of the bodies orifices.As for identifying this life form,good luck as many others are trying to do the same.\.

[scabdraggr]

Drs and most labs look at slides of skin called biopsies, which in most cases show or don't show things outside of what they have been taught to look for,which is uaually a parasite or a stage of one that comes from 3 families.The main family that they search for are black flies,diptera,orthocladinae usually.This organism dosen't fall into that classification and cannot be seen with a biopsy unless they know what it is they are looking at on the slide and slice.I use a microscope set at 60-80x without a top plate over the specimen which would distort it.It cannot be genetically categorized as it does not contain any nucleic acid.Why all the interest and what do you wish to know and see?Are you simply curious or are you researching for someone else?Are you interested in helping others to be cured?Maybe writing a book?I have a lot but would like to make sure it's used correctly,which is to help sufferers heal.