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[Kritters]

Sorry, didn't realize you were that new! Thanks for your very nice post up there ;-)

Gee...I never get cranky, myself

I hope you check out all the great advice about treatments from everyone here. It is systemic, cutaneous and environmental.

About the chemtrails....

Because there is a history of things being sprayed upon 'us' intentionally as well as inadvertently causing harm (oops)....we have to acknowledge that as a possibility. Why don't people who work at the airports get sick? How do we know they don't. But actually, the planes take off to their destinations away from the airports and therefore, aren't under the chemtrails.

Do the spit test to see if you have candida in your system.

I don't know anything about a sticky pink glob. But, I have actually PEELED a sticky clearish/grayish THING that looked like a flat slug off my arm a few times. Under the scope it had a bunch of black spots and a few red ones.

A friend of mine from Philadelphia told me last year that he was outside and smelled a weird sort of chemical smell. He saw on his car a huge blob of something and when he smelled it found it contained that odor. I told him to have it tested, but he didn't. Who knows what it was. Nano-bird dropping, maybe.

Which reminds me of a childhood joke. There was a Foo bird, see? And this foo bird would fly around the neighborhood and it's droppings would always land on the head of some unassuming pedestrian. But when they wiped it off, they suddenly dropped dead! Word spread of this deadly b bird and people were constantly running out of it's path to the point were the city became caught up in a state of panic. One day a bright young girl stood up to speak to the crowd and said, "why are you worried? If the Foo Sh*ts, WEAR IT!!!"



(I really destroyed that joke.....it was funny when I was 12)
Kritters

[tcmgpt13]

Well, the underlying disease may not be parasites, but parasites were found in many of the studied patients with Morgellons symptoms (Dr. Harvey et al).

Certainly I can attest to the fact that I had parasites as when I was first sick they were visible to the naked eye and when extracted there was movement. Some of them were at least an inch or more in size. I also had some others which would break open the skin and look like large worms. I have recently been using some new TCM formulas (as prescribed by my acupuncturist) for the large and small intestine and have finally passed some of these worm like creatures through the stool. I am hopeful this is putting a dent in any future ability replicate more larvae to lodge at a later time in the skin, but as with much to do with this disease only time will tell about that.

Although I no longer get a lot of lesions, I still have some form about twice a year. Since the pattern of outbreak over five years has been regular (feb/mar and then aug/sept), I feel that a parasite is involved with my particular symptoms. The ones which look like worms seem to generate fiber like particles around the skin/lesion (they are under the lesions) areas involving them. I have also had something which looks like long hairs coming out of these areas. It is all so bizarre. I am pretty sure that at the beginning I had more than one parasite. IMHO it is difficult to extract these parasites from the intestinal and stomach mucosal areas (that is I do not think that current anthelmintics can kill these parasites enough to prevent autoinfection in the body as I have used Ivermectin quite a bit as prescribed by a doctor). If there is not enough killing effect on the parasites the infection continues its cycle. As well, it is hard to time the Ivermectin to hit the vulnerable stages of this parasite (in some stages parasites are protected from the effects of wormers) as there is no study of this parasite's life cycle (I think these may be as yet unstudied parasites, but just IMHO).

I also have been diagnosed as having reactivated herpes type infections, the type which cause cold sores and roseola. This was triggered by the bad fish I ate (the start of everything) which probably had the neurotoxin ciguaterra. This is much improved after extended use of acyclovir.

Some threads which touch on alternative treatments:

Living with Morgellons-Treatment Suggestions

Dr Dietrich K Klinghardt Answers and Protocols

Castor Oil Use and Edgar Cayce

Scalp Treatments--Member Suggestions

More searches will yield yet other threads discussing natural suggestions treating Morgellons. The treatment section on the main page is a good place to start if you haven't already done so.

I am not saying everyone has the same symptoms I have, but it is possible that some do. Morgellons seems to be a complex of differing symptoms and infections. I do not think that with the current economic crisis we will see much being done to discover what is causing this. Even if there were money to do so, it looks as if the areas to research are huge. So about all we can do now seems to be to treat what we have in the best way we can. I know that I am much better than I was and take comfort from that. Others report they are improved too. So we can improve even if there is as yet no permanent cure.

Anyway, welcome to the board. Hope you will feel better soon.

best, tcm

Originally Posted by lostintime

I fully expected to see something moving about when I bought my microscope.
I was shocked to see the clear,red,black and blue fibers things. It sure looks like something growing but not moving around.
Trees grow slow and so do the roots. They move but at a very slow pace that can't really be seen without time laps photography.

Sorry if I came across the wrong way. I was having a real pissy night.
Most the time I can't think clear anyway.

Its just my opinion that this is not some kind of bug/worm.
Fungi would make more sence but your right we don't know.
Fungi mixed with virus, very possable.

I was tested for several strains of aspergilus but it was neg.

What are your thoughts of the sticky pink glob? Could this be the basis for the whole problem? Something going around collecting stuff and once you get that you get everything it was carrying around with it?

At this point I don't really rule out anything. I do want doctors to belive in me and try to keep things on a leval they can understand.
I just don't get the chem trail thing. If that were the case I would think folks working at airports would have a high infection rate.

I'm tired...But I did want to ask what helps the symptoms go away.
I have tried most the doctor drugs. Anything natural help while we wait for answers?

[brat789]

I only had a chance to skim through about parasites, and was wondering if it is parasites for some of you do you think MSM would help? I started taking it because Morgellons has made my facial skin a mess, so I've been taking it to help support collagen etc. One thing I did read about it is that it works to get rid of intestinal parasites as it makes it impossible for them to attach to intestinal mucosa. You can do a search on "MSM and parasites". Not sure if it would help, but felt it worth mentioning.

[brat789]

For those with the moving fibers, I have some questions and/or comparisons of ideas. Do yours move if you leave them on a counter and don't go near them? Mine move but mostly when I am near them. On the microscope they've moved too, but I notice it more so when I am very near them, seems almost like some sort of magnetism. I also notice any kind of light weight fiber moves in my presence. I have long hair and little flyaways are always moving. I have clear fibers, etc like you all and then I also find stuff coming out of my skin, t least my face, of fabrics I know I recently wore. Why are they going into my skin? I also notice its worse on my jawline where my skin would have the most contact with a collar. Its like i have some sort of charge in my body.

I still am wondering if electromagnetic fields play a role in this, I don't know. This months prevention magazine had an interesting article about electromagnetic fields and cancer etc. It got me to thinking about radiation etc. My hair is very fine, it wasn't until this started. The same happens to some with chemo when their hair grows back. Radiation is used in some cases to destroy someone's overactive thyroid. Many have thyroid problems.

I too have taken my Eyeclops outside and found many of the same things from my skin in the environment. They are everywhere. One idea is that they are just there, and we are attracting stuff, due to this magnetism.

[tcmgpt13]

I have used MSM, but using this product did not seem to move out what I have seen move out from the most recent use of two TCM formulas for the intestines. I believe if parasites remain lodged in the intestines (large or small) then the parasites will continue reproducing which in my case means the ability to produce skin lesions and to send out larvae to enlarge into the large worm I see break onto the surface of the skin at times. Perhaps these parasites are able to evade anything MSM can do. I also saw them when I used the cancer salve on a lesion. That is why I know that they are under every lesion which has formed--at least they are found in my lesions. I have seen fibers emerge from my skin lesions and my skin (more in the past than now), but I have not seen them go into my skin from the environment. I truly feel in my case this is an autoinfective parasite (perhaps more than one type?) once it was introduced from an outside food source. My symptoms are greatly lessened but by no means, so far anyway, can I say that I am totally cured.

[cynical]

Originally Posted by brat789

For those with the moving fibers, I have some questions and/or comparisons of ideas. Do yours move if you leave them on a counter and don't go near them? Mine move but mostly when I am near them. On the microscope they've moved too, but I notice it more so when I am very near them, seems almost like some sort of magnetism. I also notice any kind of light weight fiber moves in my presence. I have long hair and little flyaways are always moving. I have clear fibers, etc like you all and then I also find stuff coming out of my skin, t least my face, of fabrics I know I recently wore. Why are they going into my skin? I also notice its worse on my jawline where my skin would have the most contact with a collar. Its like i have some sort of charge in my body.

I still am wondering if electromagnetic fields play a role in this, I don't know. This months prevention magazine had an interesting article about electromagnetic fields and cancer etc. It got me to thinking about radiation etc. My hair is very fine, it wasn't until this started. The same happens to some with chemo when their hair grows back. Radiation is used in some cases to destroy someone's overactive thyroid. Many have thyroid problems.

I too have taken my Eyeclops outside and found many of the same things from my skin in the environment. They are everywhere. One idea is that they are just there, and we are attracting stuff, due to this magnetism.

Hi Brat,

I have been wondering about electromagnetic fields role lately myself. The reason being they put up double the runs they use to have behind our house right about the time I came down with this and there are a lot of links on not only increased fungal activity but nematode activity as well in new studies. I'm not sure about bacteria but I would not be surprised. Anyway no matter what I have to wonder about overall affect on our immune systems. I have started to research how to protect against it and found Taurine was very important. I have witnessed the stuff literally attracted to me where it made no sense. anyway trying all angles. clean up environment body and take anything that makes me less magnetic lol
I found a sight years ago but wrote it off I am now on the search to find it again. Our bodies are of electrical after all when you really think about it... I think it is about balance with that....