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Old April 18th, 2009, 01:54 PM
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These are important clues and are consistent with what Dr. Staninger says the black specks are - they are the "STARTERS" - they grow everything else - fibers, etc.
The MRF had dna analysis done in the fall of 2007 on the black specks but would only state that the results were "inconclusive".
Before the study, they had been commenting on their monthly reports that they were more interested in these than in the other things founds in Morgellons victims.
If someone here has any clout with the MRF, perhaps they can be encouraged to release more detail?

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What research has the MRF funded so far?

To date, our funding has been very limited. We have been able to provide “start up” funding to researchers at Oklahoma State University, California State University – Hayward, and the State University of NY – Stonybrook. We have also provided samples (and paid the related shipping costs) to a scientist at a fourth university and a microbiologist at Clongen Laboratories, who are volunteering their time and resources to investigate this disease. In addition, the MRF has helped fund the collection and collation of laboratory data, as well as demographic, history and physical information from 25 Morgellons patients who were examined by two physicians. We will share information from the analysis of this data with you when the final report of this data is complete.

We have recently received several new research proposals described below and are hoping to raise funds for these new projects, as well as raise funds to support those scientists who have ongoing projects so that they can devote more time to conducting Morgellons research.


What is the focus of the University studies and the Private lab?

Research at several of the universities is focused on examining the chemical composition of the fibers and also examining them microscopically. In addition, DNA analysis is being performed on skin specimens.

No conclusions have been reached so far from this research.

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( other than the agrobacterium study from Dr. Citovsky).....It appears the Universities were in agreement about "no conclusions" which includes: OSU, Stony, etc...... I could not find anything in the archives on the DNA of "black specs" ?


All it states is DNA of skin specimens reached "no conclusions".
( so that must be for both the DNA testing on Skin specimens and the Chemical compositions of the fibers from the "several universities" )

I checked archives from July 2007 thru Feb 2008 and the same thing is written above under the "research category" at MRF.


Last years conference presentations didn't reveal anything conclusive about the black specs either from Dr. Wymore or Dr. Citovsky/Mark Darrah. Does anyone know of another researcher/university who also examined black specs? Then possibly this confusion can be cleared up!

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Baraka and I have shown the science world that how you 'see' what Morgellons is - is through the 'seeds' or the biofilm, the biofilm is also loaded with the seeds.

I believe one seed could possibly create the whole Morgellons World?

I wonder if you could take a fiber and it would create a seed, though?

Hey K. - we're figuring out what the 'pure' Morgellons pathogen is, and it involves your aspergillis, but not how you might think!!...

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You are our ON BOARD scientist here Kammy (Baraka and Katinka).......... really really really fantastic pics showing it so well.

If I had a scope I'd be really intersted in comparing after what you've shown us.

I KNOW KNOW KNOW you WILL find something out or lead us in the right
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You are Right, ..... just where do the seeds come from and Can a fiber make more?

I am certain you'll let us know.

I'll just have some and put my faith in you!
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Which came first - the seed or the fiber? lol

If fibers CAN create 'seeds' - we're in a lot of trouble!

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Here look at this picture. You can actually see the biofilm surrounding the hair follicle with the little black specks (seeds) in it.
I always felt that biofilm production on top of my head. A funny creeping feeling like something is gathering together. I took my handheld scope and sit it on top of my head...LOL my kids were laughing because it looked so funny to them...I could see every single hairfollicle was surrounded with that biofilm making my hair feel wet.
I believe its a bacteria producing the biofilm and the black specks are fungal spores. They live in symbiosis together. That's why the little black specks "hang" on to the fibers.Remember when you look at a fiber there is always a "knot"? It's a fungal spore in original. I'll look and see if I can find a fiber..
hardly have any...next time I'll pull out my scope to look closely.


I think the "seeds" come first.. together with the biofilm...it's some kind of fungus...Aspergillus or Arthrobotrys perhaps. There could be multiple fungi types involved.
The fibers do not come from the seeds...JMO.....it's the actino- and agrobacteria originally producing those fibers.

Yes Kmar and thank you ....we really do have alot smart people here! We should credit all their efforts and the time they are spending trying to find out what this all is

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Here look at this picture. You can actually see the biofilm surrounding the hair follicle with the little black specks (seeds) in it.
I always felt that biofilm production on top of my head. A funny creeping feeling like something is gathering together. I took my handheld scope and sit it on top of my head...LOL my kids were laughing because it looked so funny to them...I could see every single hairfollicle was surrounded with that biofilm making my hair feel wet.
I believe its a bacteria producing the biofilm and the black specks are fungal spores. They live in symbiosis together. That's why the little black specks "hang" on to the fibers.Remember when you look at a fiber there is always a "knot"? It's a fungal spore in original. I'll look and see if I can find a fiber..
hardly have any...next time I'll pull out my scope to look closely.


I think the "seeds" come first.. together with the biofilm...it's some kind of fungus...Aspergillus or Arthrobotrys perhaps. There could be multiple fungi types involved.
The fibers do not come from the seeds...JMO.....it's the actino- and agrobacteria originally producing those fibers.

Yes Kmar and thank you ....we really do have alot smart people here! We should credit all their efforts and the time they are spending trying to find out what this all is

Katinka
This is confusing because we have 2 things that resemble each other - the trophozite or nematodes and the fibers.

In Baraka's first video we saw one of these black speck 'seeds' pop that created the 'fiber' network, right? (Not in his second one, called "Morgellons Forming" - we didn't see what actually started the 'explosion' in that one.)

Nice photo, Kat and btw - thank you for all your hard work.
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