Peroxide, keratin and collagen fibers

[tcmgpt13]

Oh, yes, herbalist did that at first (strong herbs to clean out intestinal tract) and have alsoo used at other times Dr. Natura's herbal colon cleanse. Plus other things to move things along, but hey this is not all reproducing in the intestinal tract, it is also nesting under skin down into muscle (IMHO) as well as the organs, blood stream and lymph. Why hard to control and to cure I think.

[ladycolorado]

i also wanted to add thinks gets into the bone too. in the rainforest there is somethig called cordeceps fungi, and it literally takes over the minds of insects and changes their behavior.......hmmm. ??? i think disease gets into insects such as collubola, and alters their behavior burrowing into the scalp to lay gnits is NOT normal. (could the fungal component also be sending out phermones, i do know honeybees communicate with pheromones. as far as the tinkering going on, yes i know on many levels and to worry about that could drive one mad in itself. even our food is being tinkered with, and could be why more getting sick with morgellons we were not designed to eat these weird things being made. i had never thought about the animal rights people releasing lab animals and things being set loose, thanks for that kritters. (LC).

[2manyfibers]

Hey LC - WOW - I missed a lot of posts not being on the board much lately. That article you linked to above was really good. I do know that some of the fiber analysis performed under Dr. Wymore's research showed that at least one "morgellon's fiber" was cytoskeletal keratin and another one contained sulfur (which as you know from some of my previous posts is a significant component of keratin). Although the article you referenced says that collagen fibers are not part of "morgellon's fibers" I'm not so certain that this is true. I corresponded with Dr. Wymore's group several months ago and discussed some of what I had found about collagen fibers and my own experience. I asked them if they had actually performed a chemical analysis on any of the fibers to determine if they could be collagen. Their response was that they had not done any actual chemical analysis, but that they didn't think collagen fibers could "stand up to" what they had done with the morgellon's fibers. That didn't really give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that they had actually empirically or scientifically determined whether or not some of the morgellon's fibers were collagen or elastin. Especially after I did some more research and found that it is pretty well established that collagen fibers aren't destroyed or dissolved from soaking for several days in a solution of hydrochloric acid with a ph of 1 (which is about the same ph as the sulfuric acid in a car battery which I know from experience to be a pretty strong acid). It is also known that elastin fibers are very heat resistant (and aren't destroyed by cooking in meats such as beef). Thus, I personally think that collagen and elastin fibers truly have not been scientifically eliminated from the possibilities yet (as the article seems to infer) - especially in light of the non-answer I received from Dr. Wymore's group.

[ladycolorado]

well i do agree with you that disease exploiting stuff from our bodies, look at how tough sinew is, for example. the disease deoes expoit our defense mechanisms, like the mucosal membranes, the blood and the skin, so i do not find your theory far fetched at all. i think it uses stuff from us to add as building blocks to its "structures" . i myself did see some reference to material from animal tissues in the article, we are also animals. as far as wymore, i admire his work, but if wated on his discoveries, be an old lady or in a crematory box, as he is so underfunded. if you saw the harvey letter, they are actually doing something besdies sitting on duffs, and trying to get answers for better treatment. oh, saw doc going to get another round of ivermection because of my relapse from running out of meds, and got rx for b-12 shot once monthly. i need a little oomph, i think although cfs not debilitating me. and vitamins sublinguals are not created equal, lol. i also take the health supplement airbourne, it seems to help me get most of the vitamins i need. i also take some aspirin, this help with herxing if take with atibitics. yogurt, thr really good kind vanilla or plain, i make into my own smoothies or icecream with fruit. i also have been taking flaxseed oil as already had some. i eat meat and eggs like you. i eat veggies. i like beans rice, even blackeyed peas. carbs do in moderation usually higher quality, like if get red kidney beans or black beans or even blackeyes peas, make the brown and wild rice throw beans in pretty good. i put alot of spices in my food, like cayennne sea salt, oregano or cumin, stuff like that. i like salty stuff like almonds pumkinsedds and jerky. i drink coffee but black. rarely i eat chocolate i have found if eat 70 percent cocoa, or the ones with mallitol or the low carb choclate covered energy bars with low sugar. i take valerian root for pain, and when like to sleep i can still think on it and doc said that is fine, good, i really like the stuff vs a prescription. i am still undecided on royal jelly, i have some bees make it for the queen bee, but rather feed myself not disease so unsure on it. if feeds me, then i would take it. (LC). p.s. if still eye trouble, make a mini bubba treatment bath for sink, if can open eyes in the water, do so some times may help with eyes, i open my eyes in baths to keep them clear, (LC).

[2manyfibers]

yeah LC - you're right about the funding for Dr. Wymore's group. They may not have the money to do a chemical analysis on many fibers and other stuff. I know the equipment (like a spectral chromatograph, and similar equipment) is extremely expensive so they may not have ready access to that type of test gear. So I wasn't trying to imply that they weren't doing the best they could (and I don't think you took it that way anyway). i just don't personally think that collagen and elastin can be officially ruled out at this point as a fiber material, at least in some cases.

The more I keep reading on flaxseed oil, the more I find that it is becoming considered increasingly important for heart health. I even found a couple of sites that had recipes for using flaxseed oil as a glaze for baked goods like cookies - I don't think I'd want to even try fish oil in that application (another plus for flaxseed oil in my book). Somehow I don't think cookies with fish oil glaze would even make it in some of these trendy restaurants nowadays.

[ladycolorado]

well, yeah the flaxseed oil i like, but regarding taste, well i no longer care, might make some garlic fish cookies . but can you tell me what think on the royal jelly? i was once a beekeeper when young, so know how good it is but would it feed the parasites, or me? yep, if look at sinew bone, some of the materials we are made of very hard. so actually thought that article gave some credence to you, although missing some of the components you have mentioned. i know some stuff insects make okay for us, silk is one. i think if anything done will be harvey his own taskforce, this crap put him in wheelchair for two years if look at latest harvey letter from october third of this month wants to classify organisms for better treatment do dna sequencing. really peeves me just because clinic closed with martz sick said he is "retired" he is far from that i will tell you, the reason why i was able to get medical care at all and trying to get treatment protocols established for all docs who are retarded. take a look at this: http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...14140#msg14140 (LC).