Fenben, praziquantel, ivermectin

[Pollyringworm]

There needs to be an updated thread on this since other important threads are being hijacked.

The fenbendazole we've been talking about is in the form of a veterinarian medicine given to either horses or dogs. I took safeguard for horses, and there is a thread on here from someone who took the fenben for dogs and got relief. Could someone post that link? I appreciate it.

The praziquantel and ivermectin paste is for horses and called equimax.

I'm sure this thread is going to be picked apart, but even so, you'll see there are varying opinions and results. Hopefully you can make an informed decision after reading all the responses.

Where is the girl who took the canine fenben? I'd sure love to hear from her about her health now. Does anyone know?

There is also a lot of information on cure zone about it. Please research it. Specifically the length of treatment.


Also, I have not heard anyone say they've been cured with this. Some get relief by taking it long-term.

[Baraka Obam]

I do not have any issues with the correct dosage for humans for a certain parasite that this will kill. what I am against is guessing at the answer.

Continued and constant use of large amounts of items with unknown long term effects can make Jack a dead boy or is that a dull boy, or is it all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, does that sound crazy.

Lets pin down a common parasite infestation before we treat parasites untill our dying day.

Lets be a little more carefull of people with other health issues when talking internal stuff.

[scabdraggr]

I posted the correct dosage with the correct strength for the correct time length.You cannot tailor this regimen to your personal perceptions unless they are convinced that they are better than mine.Which could be possible.Any kidney pain will stop when the black fibers are urinated out along with the acidic poison that is released into the digestive system.Many have several pounds of parasitic material inside them when infected with morgellons.The dog type fenben is less strengrh and cosrs more.Fenben SAFEGUARD is called SAFEGUARD for a reason,it's safe to use!Bye Bye wormy

[Pollyringworm]

Don't convolute this thread by your bickering. Private message each other, please.

If you've got something clear and legible to contribute, please do. This thread is for people to learn about the dewormers and hear others experiences. No one needs to hear its everyone's cure. Just post your history and experience with them and let others make up their minds. It's time to grow up and think of other people.

[Baraka Obam]

Originally Posted by Baraka Obam

I do not have any issues with the correct dosage for humans for a certain parasite that this will kill. what I am against is guessing at the answer.

Continued and constant use of large amounts of items with unknown long term effects can make Jack a dead boy or is that a dull boy, or is it all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, does that sound crazy.

Lets pin down a common parasite infestation before we treat parasites until our dying day.

Lets be a little more carefully of people with other health issues when talking internal stuff.

People are going to have ideas, some will be so steadfast they can not adjust.


If you do not understand my point please do not comment on it, my issue and point is in no way bickering.

If you find just one person with issues from taking this you do need to think about that.

The warning is for everyone, I wish scabdrager would adjust the things he says to fit this sites real purpose.

The word cure actually offends me, it offends me because there is no proof and gives people false hope of a cure, how many people have said the word cure already, some for money others, well I think they have nothing more than STRONG best wishes for everyone.

I think scabdragger is one of these people, still he needs to talk with people and make sure they know THERE ARE RISKS IN EVERYTHING.

There was risks and many things I did, people here have pointed out many, I know these people did not guess at what they posted so I looked for this information, some are guff some are real.

I will not be happy until scabdragger tones down the insistence that there can be NO danger in these drugs, its just not very smart and can be deadly to those that need and want to be well again.

He has to suggest caution.

Do you know the old saying (IF SOME IS GOOD THEN ALOT IS BETTER) many live by this idea.

I know a woman that almost died from B12 she overdosed every day more and more until bingo she took a very large does and thought she was gonna die.


Members have a duty to others to make sure when they come here they do not do fifty things at once, or one thing fifty times.

The longer you have been part of this Pollyringworm you will see, we have been where you are going, hopefully someone some day will find the REAL issue, they will show it to us, they will eradicate the issue and man then may live to be 150 years old or more.

Get over the idea that I do not accept scabdrager as a interested and fellow searcher of truths with out a laboratory truths are hard to find, but easy to imagine.

I respect what he tries to do, its just when he speaks what he says does not jive with his ability to PROVE.

This may also have happened with me, though I try not to overdo my statements, especially if I can not prove what I say.

I am CONVINCED of very few items in this malady, one thing I am convinced of our vector issue is the exact same one, its stealthy, systemic can easily be passed by fluids, and may affect some instantly visibly and others hidden and seemingly unrelated.

[Pollyringworm]

I will post my full experience with the dewormers after I've decided whether or not to continue them. The praziquantel was rough for two days then I had a bowel movement and felt better. I passed nothing, though. My stomach still feels a bit upset.

On the fenben I passed thin clear alive worms on several occasions. The symptoms it helps with are: itching, crawling, and brain fog. This is my experience so far.

[cynical]

I believe praziquantel may have been the turning point to my wide spread itching but I don't have proof that was it but it stopped within a week of the dose recommended for schistonomas I think. Sp?
Not recommending just sharing. I am not cured just more comfortable. My scalp is still a mess I still get problem sores now and then but the wide spread itching has subsided. I can now once again venture out into public. This is huge... I did not leave my home much for almost 4 years. I have tossed my wigs etc... I hope anyone new to this finds comfort soon... I know how hard it must be because I have been in your shoes. When I feel any type of relapse I hit the shower with salt this seems to help.

Cyn

[tcmgpt13]

Hey there cyn, good to see ya here again. I agree that the various dewormers provide some relief from symptoms. Whatever all this is it appears to be very hard to cure, just as is strongyloides and schistosomiasis. I am hopeful that some of the medications being developed for leishmaniasis will at least be tried off label on us when they are finally released. There is one drug, an external treatment, in stage three trials in Tunisia. It would be great if it worked on our skin symptoms. Crossing fingers.

quote=cynical;89241] I believe praziquantel may have been the turning point to my wide spread itching but I don't have proof that was it but it stopped within a week of the dose recommended for schistonomas I think. Sp? Not recommending just sharing. I am not cured just more comfortable. My scalp is still a mess I still get problem sores now and then but the wide spread itching has subsided. I can now once again venture out into public. This is huge... I did not leave my home much for almost 4 years. I have tossed my wigs etc... I hope anyone new to this finds comfort soon... I know how hard it must be because I have been in your shoes. When I feel any type of relapse I hit the shower with salt this seems to help.

Cyn
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[tcmgpt13]

When using the dewormers I also use some TCM herbs which ensure the bowels move every day, both the small and large intestines. I think that these organisms ball up and do not allow a sufficient passage of stool when taking these drugs (just what I have observed in my own case). Anyway this seems to lessen side effects from these kinds of drugs for me. I also drink a lot of water.

quote=Pollyringworm;89226]I will post my full experience with the dewormers after I've decided whether or not to continue them. The praziquantel was rough for two days then I had a bowel movement and felt better. I passed nothing, though. My stomach still feels a bit upset.

On the fenben I passed thin clear alive worms on several occasions. The symptoms it helps with are: itching, crawling, and brain fog. This is my experience so far.[/quote]

[veryscared]

I have asked someone here to tell me how much of what dewormer they were taking when they saw worms and they tell me annesco is the one to ask. I feel like if there are worms then they need to come out. I know that people in general can have worms etc. and so I think if I have some these should come out even if it does not help M per se.

So, how much of what dewormer and where do you get these substances from??.......the three that are being discussed. Which one would most of you (who have used them) try first? Tell me smallest dose you used to get worms to come out of bowels.

I have had a ton of stomach issues for a lot longer than since Oct. when the bites happened. Terrible acid reflux to the point that had a scope and esphagus had some mild erosion. Tested postive for h pylori and was treated with a car load of antibiotics. Felt better for about two months after and then problems came right back! This was about 2 years ago and until researching M came upon the symptoms listed by some of stomach issues being an indictor. But I guess I will never know if they are related or not. But again at any rate if I can get all parts of me healthy that has got to be helpful in my opinion.