Ivermectin? Or any other advice?

[mrsvigors]

Hi again everyone

My ear is still blocked so I'm off to get it syringed tomorrow and have also booked an appointment with my GPto discuss some anti depressant meds. I was wondering if I should ask for a course of Ivermectin but am reading mixed reviews. Would this be a good idea or is there any other prescription med I am likely to get if requested that will be effective?

Gonna show doc my nails too as I'm pretty sure they are fungus infected! Any anti fungal med recommended?

Thanks so much for your help, couldn't have gotten through this without this board!

Xx

[annesco]

I am taking ivermectin as a part of my protocol, as well as doxycyclene, which is definitely helping. I believe that there are multiple aspects of this, including parasitic, bacterial and fungal. Not sure how open your MD will be to giving you the ivermectin, so good luck. However, he may give you the doxy and an antifungal. Otherwise, there are some good options including oregano oil, olive leaf extract, coconut oil (caprylic acid), tea tree oil (external only).

You can take a look at some of the others' protocols for help. Or there are some who will reach out to you as well...

The above belief is just my opinion, but I am finding relief from many symptoms with what I am doing. If you would like more info, feel free to PM me.

Do keep in mind that this thing varies much from person to person...

Originally Posted by mrsvigors

Hi again everyone

My ear is still blocked so I'm off to get it syringed tomorrow and have also booked an appointment with my GPto discuss some anti depressant meds. I was wondering if I should ask for a course of Ivermectin but am reading mixed reviews. Would this be a good idea or is there any other prescription med I am likely to get if requested that will be effective?

Gonna show doc my nails too as I'm pretty sure they are fungus infected! Any anti fungal med recommended?

Thanks so much for your help, couldn't have gotten through this without this board!

Xx

[scabdraggr]

They cannot prescribe you the meds that kill this life form.They will or would have prescribed you adderal but it has been so overprescribed for M symptoms that a worldwide shortage has occurred.Fenbendazole works but hasn't been approved by the FDA for use in humans.Oraziquantel works great in tandem with fenben and ivermectin but they too when combined with fenben becomes a controlled substance with no known medical usage.If a dr prescribed this treatment thn he would subsequently be atatcked by the medical review boards.Petmeds,Tractor supply stores,most feed and seed stores have these meds in the horse meds section in the paste form.The average medical bill for a sufferer with or without insurance can run into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.$50.00 worth of horse meds can do a much better job as the end result is healing.

[Pollyringworm]

Everything about your condition screams Lyme, but you won't consider it. Why do you all think parasite first when you can see the biofilm and it's issues? Think parasite second and get tested, or just try a Lyme treatment and see if it helps. I really dont think it's a coincidence that so many people here have tested positive for Lyme.

Break up and remove the biofilm, then see what happens. I truly believe any parasite we have is either piggybacking on Lyme spirochetes or attracted to us because of the biofilm. You don't have to answer the question "what is m?" yet. M is different for everyone. We have sick bodies that need attention, and telling your dr you have nano bots or parasites, will get you nowhere.

If you don't start some kind of course of treatment, be it antibiotics or supplements and herbs, your secondary infections will only get worse and more varied.

Baraka sounds like he has Lyme, too. The low body temperature, crawling, itching, etc. all are indicators of Lyme and its coinfections. His is obviously late stage- neurological.

[scabdraggr]

Biofilm by definition requires nucleic acids in order to met the proper definition of microorganisms that create a mtrix.This argument has been going on for a long time with many researchers having differing opinions.So far only Frito has found genetic material within this "matrix" that we are all seeing under our scabs,hence my name here on mdr.Many have made this claim but no one can back it up.I would love to ride the fence on this issue except for what I have seen and have been a part of.DR Wymore and many others agrre with me and I with them as for the belief that this is a new lifeform that doesn't form from nucleic acids.Second,there seems to e proof that this lifeform can grow and morph into some type of recognizeable lifeform or possibly a new lifeform as an adult. Third,no one has found the sphirocete bacteria that's responsible for lyme to be present in any of the samples that have been presented for lab analyses.I have what I believe is proof that no lyme is part of the M syndrome.If you wish for more info on all this then I will do my best to present that to you.M is the same for all of us in that the same lifeform invades all our bodies and starts this disease.First we are not all the same, as our bodies are different in their abiity to handle foriegn invaders.Second the method of infestation differs such as by mouth or by skin or from sexual contact.Third is where doees the start of the disease occur such as the thyroid,kidneys,prostrate or sinuses or all of these at once.Fourth is the level of infestation within these individual areas.A sufferer can have a thyroid problem that is dangerous but not notice any other symptoms.A gall bladder that needs to be removed due to a blockage in the bile duct from a single fat M life form.Kidneys full of stones from the acids involved with this lifeform.Infertility from ovaries being attatcked and the list is long from here.There is much more to discuss about all this if you are as interested as I believe you to be.I have a hard time believing that a lot of Lyme disease is involved with M suffering individuals.My material suggests otherwise..

[tcmgpt13]

All of what you say here has been said here on the forum in the past. Yet lyme does not explain everything people with M are experiencing either. Otherwise people like Dr. Harvey would have already been able to declare lyme as the cause of all our symptoms. Yet later in his investigation into M he said M was not lyme. I suppose he could have been wrong, but I feel he had a lot more training in investigating this illness than do any of us do by far. Still so many of our symptoms could be part of lyme, that is if we have lyme and are fortunate enough to have access to testing that has a chance of identifying it along with a doctor intelligent enough to understand what the tests mean.

Yes, it may be that lyme is fairly common among us...but it is also possible that some other infection, known and/or unknown, is tightly linked into our symptoms as well. If lyme caused all the severe symptoms so many people suddenly report then M symptoms would have been seen in the past as well. The illness would have become very noticeable and most likely researched by now, some years later after lyme was first studied. I have to feel that there is something else in the mix besides just lyme even though many of our symptoms could be lyme based. This does not prove all of them are lyme though.

BTW the existence of biofilm is still not a generally accepted 'fact' within the medical community.

Low body temperature has more than one cause. Thyroid. Adrenals. Both can be causes of low body temperature. Similar symptoms can have different causes. This also applies to skin lesions which have many causes behind them besides lyme. I think we have to keep an open mind about everything. I do not even think we can assume that everyone here has M symptoms for we have seen in the past that some members left the forum when they were diagnosed with other diseases entirely.

Just read your post Scdgr. It would be interesting to hear more about your views about this subject.

quote=Pollyringworm;88022]Everything about your condition screams Lyme, but you won't consider it. Why do you all think parasite first when you can see the biofilm and it's issues? Think parasite second and get tested, or just try a Lyme treatment and see if it helps. I really dont think it's a coincidence that so many people here have tested positive for Lyme.

Break up and remove the biofilm, then see what happens. I truly believe any parasite we have is either piggybacking on Lyme spirochetes or attracted to us because of the biofilm. You don't have to answer the question 'what is m?' yet. M is different for everyone. We have sick bodies that need attention, and telling your dr you have nano bots or parasites, will get you nowhere.

If you don't start some kind of course of treatment, be it antibiotics or supplements and herbs, your secondary infections will only get worse and more varied.

Baraka sounds like he has Lyme, too. The low body temperature, crawling, itching, etc. all are indicators of Lyme and its coinfections. His is obviously late stage- neurological.[/quote]

[Baraka Obam]

Originally Posted by Pollyringworm

Baraka sounds like he has Lyme, too. The low body temperature, crawling, itching, etc. all are indicators of Lyme and its coinfections. His is obviously late stage- neurological.

I do not really have itching anymore, my mind is pretty sharp, I never said anything about crawling.

My issues for the most part are dam near perfect UNLESS I go looking for the issues, most likely I look better then most everybody her UNLESS I go looking for involvment.

When I took the F6 I expected that, it seems anything worth a dam will torment the hell out of the hidden involvment.

[Pollyringworm]

There's a pretty good video showing Lyme biofilm on Youtube. Just search "lyme biofilm".

I'm still sticking to my guns on this. I'm not suggesting M is Lyme. The more I read about it, the more I think it's a coinfection of some sort. There is proof that parasites infect people along with the Lyme spirochete, why couldn't this be one of them?

Scab- You should check out some of the videos on youtube. I saw a creature just like the one you photographed and posted on here, posted by someone else. They are also calling it the cause of M. It may very well be. But I still think Lyme is the primary infection. That explains why some people get M and some don't.

Baraka- I'm glad to hear you're doing well now. I had no idea. The information I posted about your symptoms was from previous posts. You sounded like you were still actively looking for treatment.

[Pollyringworm]

One more thing, I really don't think we all have the same thing here. Some may be suffering from Lyme and it's typical coinfections. They provide the same symptoms that many M patients have, IE: crawling, biting, itching, etc. Others are more M related. Fibers coming through the skin, lesions that ooze and won't heal...these things are not all common amongst us. My lesions are more like pimples then open sores. I have fibers, but they aren't coming through my skin. I can match a lot of my symptoms to both M and Lyme, but the severity is what's different.

Me, personally, I think I match Lyme with parasidic coinfections. I have a ton of biofilm. You all have seen it in my photos. It oozes from my skin at times.

I'm just like you guys, trying to figure out what's wrong with me so I can help myself. I personally think the amount of people on this board coming up positive for Lyme is no coincidence. But I'm happy to look at any evidence or listen to anyone else tell their theory.

These discussions are good.

[Pollyringworm]

Fry laboratories tests for biofilm, if anyone is interested.Welcome to Fry Labs - Fry Laboratories