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Old November 21st, 2011, 10:18 AM
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Good morning folks,

So, for the past 4 - 5 days, I've experienced increasing (but not debilitating) stomach issues, including queasiness, some stomache aches, and nausea. I have not had diarrhea, nor constipation, but it seems to be increasing. As I had said, I am going into my third week of taking olive leaf extract and oregano oil three times/day, and am wondering if this might be due to that addition? Or, could it be something else that I need to be on the watch for, like some weird beastie erupting somewhere our of my intestines or stomach? I drank a cup of peppermint tea yesterday, and immediately experienced the stomach rumblings and slight nausea.

Otherwise, I am actually feeling pretty good. My symptoms are not as "quiet" as they were a few weeks ago, as I am feeling what seems like very light, feathery movement and actually feeling sometimes things are falling out of my ears (?), but the lint less both in car and home, and the two little scabby areas on my scalp are much smaller...

If I need to take something for the stomach symptoms, what would you all recommend? Or shall I just soldier on?

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Old November 21st, 2011, 11:38 AM
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You can bet your money on the oregano, I have a real funny feeling that is part of the problem.

OLIVE OIL can case sever problems if you take to much and start gall stones to start rolling, they can get caught in the common bile duct, and believe me, your not gonna like that.

Look up bad side effects of LEMON JUICE and OLIVE OIL gall bladder flush.

Olive oil makes the gall bladder start to produce alot of bile.

If you screw up and get these things stuck in the common bile duct, you can turn yellow, but more likely you will start to have pains in your chest horrible pain, especially if you eat anything greasy, and I do mean anything, even one french fry.

Untill I had my gall bladder OUT, I was the walking dead, I could not lay down, I had to drag my butt around the streets all night long, there is no laying down.

I was the walking dead.

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Old November 21st, 2011, 12:14 PM
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You can bet your money on the oregano, I have a real funny feeling that is part of the problem.

OLIVE OIL can case sever problems if you take to much and start gall stones to start rolling, they can get caught in the common bile duct, and believe me, your not gonna like that.

Look up bad side effects of LEMON JUICE and OLIVE OIL gall bladder flush.

Olive oil makes the gall bladder start to produce alot of bile.

If you screw up and get these things stuck in the common bile duct, you can turn yellow, but more likely you will start to have pains in your chest horrible pain, especially if you eat anything greasy, and I do mean anything, even one french fry.

Untill I had my gall bladder OUT, I was the walking dead, I could not lay down, I had to drag my butt around the streets all night long, there is no laying down.

I was the walking dead.
Thanks. I did do some research:

Oil of Oregano: Nature's Antibiotic and Anti-Fungal Supplement
By James P. Meschino, DC, MS

The healing powers of oil of oregano were virtually unknown in North America until the early 1900s, even though our ancestors have relied on its medicinal effects for thousands of years. Hippocrates wrote volumes on how to use this medicinal herb in the treatment of many conditions.

In recent years, oil of oregano has been largely investigated for its antimicrobial properties.

A unique blend of oil of oregano, known as the P73 wild oregano blend, has been the subject of several recent investigative studies that examined its ability to kill various viruses, bacteria, yeasts and other microorganisms known to adversely affect human health. The fungal-fighting properties of P73 wild oil of oregano are supported by research conducted at the Georgetown University Medical Center and led by Harry G. Preuss, MD.

The study by Dr. Preuss, et al., published in the journal Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry, tested the efficacy of oregano oil against the fungal infection Candida albicans (better known as a yeast infection). The researchers concluded that oil of oregano "can act as a potent antifungal agent against Candida albicans."1 Other experimental studies have shown that this unique blend of oil of oregano kills at least 30 different strains of harmful bacteria, such as staphylococcus aureus, as well as other microorganisms, including coronaviruses, which are the second most common viruses to cause the common cold. Coronaviruses can also cause pneumonia and other respiratory infections.2-6

The P73 oil of oregano blend has also been shown to kill the Helicobacter pylori (H. pylori) bacterium, which is known to be a causal factor in up to 90 percent of duodenal ulcers and 80 percent of stomach (gastric) ulcers. A small clinical trial initiated in 2003 demonstrated that the P73 oil of oregano blend showed positive results in patients with stomach and duodenal ulcers.

Antimicrobial Active Constituents

Oil of oregano is known to be a rich source of the volatile oils thymol and carvacrol, which have been shown to be largely responsible for enabling oil of oregano to kill various microorganisms under experimental conditions. Oil of oregano also contains other active constituents, including flavonoids and a host of vitamins and phytonutrients.

The P73 wild oregano blend represents the first oregano-based product to be tested under controlled scientific settings for its ability to kill a variety of common microorganisms associated with infectious conditions in humans. It has been created using a proprietary, evaporative technique on the edible oils. This technique used on the wild, mountain-grown oil of oregano, as well as on the other natural spice extracts, creates a potent and concentrated formula. The oregano species used to make this extract is 100 percent hand-picked Mediterranean oregano, and is produced by traditional methods of cold pressing and steam distillation. No chemicals are used to extract the active ingredients, helping to assure purity of the product.

When using 250 mg capsules of the P73 wild oregano blend as part of the complementary management of various infectious conditions, most experts suggest the following protocols:

1.Colds, flu, acute bronchitis and sinusitis - two capsules every four hours at the earliest signs of a cold or flu bug (or sinusitis), to help abort the condition and/or minimize symptoms and duration.
2.Chronic bronchitis and chronic asthma - two capsules twice per day until condition improves to a significant degree, and then reduce or eliminate the dosage, depending upon improvement.
3.Chronic mono and chronic fatigue - two capsules twice per day along with other supplements to boost immune and energy systems.
4.Candida and yeast infections - two capsules three times per day until significant improvement is realized, upon which a lower maintenance dosage should be followed, until complete resolution of the problem is achieved.
5.Duodenal and gastric (stomach) ulcers - three capsules twice per day (can be taken in conjunction with other medicines aimed at killing the H. pylori bacterium).
6.Acne and rosacea - oil of oregano can also kill the bacteria and skin mite associated with acne and rosacea, respectively. Some patients have seen improvement in these conditions when taking two capsules twice per day. A topical oil of oregano cream applied at night can further assist in these cases.
As a complementary supplement, oil of oregano can be used concurrently with other medications prescribed for the treatment of the aforementioned conditions, but should not be used as a substitute for these medications without consent of the attending physician.

Safety of Oil of Oregano

Toxicity studies indicate that oil of oregano is a very safe product and has not been associated with any serious side-effects or negative health outcomes in thousands of years of use. However, as is the case with most supplements, women who are pregnant or breast-feeding should not use oil of oregano capsules or topical products. If oil of oregano supplementation exceeds one month of continuous use, as may be warranted in some of the conditions noted previously, it may also be prudent to ingest functional foods containing live cultures of friendly bacteria, such as yogurt, to help maintain ideal levels of friendly gut bacteria. Although oil of oregano primarily targets undesirable bacteria and other hostile microbes in the body, it may also minimize the concentrations of friendly gut bacteria with long-term use. To guard against this possibility, regular ingestion of live friendly bacterial cultures from functional foods is recommended, as well as daily ingestion of prebiotics, which are proven to foster the growth of the friendly gut bacteria




I will take if for a couple more days and increase my probiotic intake, and then taper off to a maintenace dose, and skip a couple of days. I believe that it has definitely helped with some of the symptoms, especially as an antifungal. Since I take it diluted as well, I think I'm okay. I'm not turning yellow or anything, but do have a bit of increased gassy feeling with the slight nausea.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 12:36 PM
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I already went throught this whole problem of bad gall bladder.

BEEN THERE DONE THAT, I used oil of oregano and olive oil, the oregano did not agree with me, the oil is HIGHLY consentrated I am sure you know that by the way it smells, LOL.

The gall bladder rinse with olive oil and lemon I did that, LOL, that was not good for me either, NOW I HAVE NO GALL.

So for those of you accusing me of having alot of gall, you are wrong once again, how does it feel to be wrong, LOL.
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Old November 21st, 2011, 03:21 PM
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my good frind is CEO of a hospital system and he agreed that gall bladder surgeries are up 800% in five years.It gets in the duct and swells,closing off the flow of gall.I've been saying this for 3yrs and i'm glad that the correct info is coming out.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 02:37 AM
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The gallbladder produces bile to help digest fat. Those who dont have one are supposed to be avoiding fatty foods, but most of us are doing that anyway with our dietary changes.
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 04:27 AM
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Organic kefir (sold at stores) really helped us with the leaky gut syndrome. Look in the milk/yogurt section (you don't have to make your own). Sorry I didn't mention it before with you... part of my protocol.

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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:10 AM
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Jonsi, you may want to see if any of your stores carry the liberte brand of kefir from Canada. I just bought some of their yogurt in the grocery store (no kefir there so far but I plan to put in a request) and it is the absolutely best tasting yogurt I have ever had. I am allergic to a lot of molds and I do not know what it is about US yogurt and kefir that I do not like, not even the health food store brands. To me most of it has a vague moldy aftertaste so I cannot eat it unless it is disguised with fruit to hide the taste. I have the same trouble with commercially produced cottage cheese and actually do not like cottage cheese even from the health food store the day after the container is opened. Again to me it tastes moldy in short order. I will be looking for the Liberte kefir. I hope that their very tasty yogurt will remain in the stores where I live since it is a bit more expensive. Thumbs up for Canada (and Quebec) on this one:

liberte.ca/en/index.sn?r=ca&l=en

Annesco I have had stomach issues since becoming sick with Morgellons. I think this illness brings in some bacteria that infect the stomach. I recently have been taking cipro and now some doxycycline. The first great side effect I had was that these drugs stopped the heartburn and stomach pain I had. My appetite has also returned after six years. I know that I will have to eat a ton of yogurt to help bring my body into balance after doing this, but honestly I feel that for some of us some drug use for short periods may help lessen overall symptoms. This is the first time that I have noticed an increase in my energy levels. I am not saying any of it is a panacea or a cure, just maybe a help. I already have my herbs to brew once I am done with this course of antibiotics and I am still taking the herbal teapills for the intestines and gall bladder. I separate taking them by some hours from the antibiotics so they do not interfere with each other. I have not developed any diarrhea so perhaps the herbs are helping somewhat to keep some balance in the intestinal flora. Crossing fingers anyway. I have used oregano oil in the past, but was fortunate in that at that time (about five years ago) it did not create any additional stomach issues for me. I was having off and on stomach pain (and that could also have been caused by the parasites). What I did notice back then was that it would bring out indigo colored streaks to the surface of the skin which could then be wiped away.

quote=jonsi;86622] Organic kefir (sold at stores) really helped us with the leaky gut syndrome. Look in the milk/yogurt section (you don't have to make your own). Sorry I didn't mention it before with you... part of my protocol.

ITWL,
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:24 AM
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Jonsi, you may want to see if any of your stores carry the liberte brand of kefir from Canada. I just bought some of their yogurt in the grocery store (no kefir there so far but I plan to put in a request) and it is the absolutely best tasting yogurt I have ever had. I am allergic to a lot of molds and I do not know what it is about US yogurt and kefir that I do not like, not even the health food store brands. To me most of it has a vague moldy aftertaste so I cannot eat it unless it is disguised with fruit to hide the taste. I have the same trouble with commercially produced cottage cheese and actually do not like cottage cheese even from the health food store the day after the container is opened. Again to me it tastes moldy in short order. I will be looking for the Liberte kefir. I hope that their very tasty yogurt will remain in the stores where I live since it is a bit more expensive. Thumbs up for Canada (and Quebec) on this one:

liberte.ca/en/index.sn?r=ca&l=en

Annesco I have had stomach issues since becoming sick with Morgellons. I think this illness brings in some bacteria that infect the stomach. I recently have been taking cipro and now some doxycycline. The first great side effect I had was that these drugs stopped the heartburn and stomach pain I had. My appetite has also returned after six years. I know that I will have to eat a ton of yogurt to help bring my body into balance after doing this, but honestly I feel that for some of us some drug use for short periods may help lessen overall symptoms. This is the first time that I have noticed an increase in my energy levels. I am not saying any of it is a panacea or a cure, just maybe a help. I already have my herbs to brew once I am done with this course of antibiotics and I am still taking the herbal teapills for the intestines and gall bladder. I separate taking them by some hours from the antibiotics so they do not interfere with each other. I have not developed any diarrhea so perhaps the herbs are helping somewhat to keep some balance in the intestinal flora. Crossing fingers anyway. I have used oregano oil in the past, but was fortunate in that at that time (about five years ago) it did not create any additional stomach issues for me. I was having off and on stomach pain (and that could also have been caused by the parasites). What I did notice back then was that it would bring out indigo colored streaks to the surface of the skin which could then be wiped away.

quote=jonsi;86622] Organic kefir (sold at stores) really helped us with the leaky gut syndrome. Look in the milk/yogurt section (you don't have to make your own). Sorry I didn't mention it before with you... part of my protocol.

ITWL,
!jonsi
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Thanks. I skipped my afternoon and evening dose of oregano oil yesterday, and woke up this morning feeling bad. I'm having trouble with my eyes, my brain fog is really bad, which stinks because I have to finish some things for work before the holidays, I feel a sense of impending doom, which is the anxiety acting up again, and I have more crawliness than usual. I am going to take the oregano oil again at around 10 and see if it alleviates these symptoms. I eat a lot of yogurt, and also take probiotic supplements, but still have the slight nausea.

I am taking milk thistle and drinking dandelion root tea and ginger tea to help with the liver and kidneys.

Ugh. Who knows? Have to keep exercising, and hope for the best...
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Old November 22nd, 2011, 08:41 AM
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Thanks. I skipped my afternoon and evening dose of oregano oil yesterday, and woke up this morning feeling bad. I'm having trouble with my eyes, my brain fog is really bad, which stinks because I have to finish some things for work before the holidays, I feel a sense of impending doom, which is the anxiety acting up again, and I have more crawliness than usual. I am going to take the oregano oil again at around 10 and see if it alleviates these symptoms. I eat a lot of yogurt, and also take probiotic supplements, but still have the slight nausea.

I am taking milk thistle and drinking dandelion root tea and ginger tea to help with the liver and kidneys.

Ugh. Who knows? Have to keep exercising, and hope for the best...[/quote]

According to TCM knowledge and as far the area of the body you probably want to affect to drive out any infections in the body (parasite, bacterial, viral, fungal) the best time of day to take oregano is from 1-3pm on an empty stomach (if possible). What my practitioner had me do was half fill empty capsules right before taking the oil. She had me start up slowly and I think I worked up to three half capsules at that time of day. Forgot to add that this time of day is small intestine time according to TCM. I do not remember how long I did this. While all natural treatments have helped, it is only with the additional help of some Western meds that I have chased off some of the more severe symptoms I have had. The ivermectin for one helped some of the rough skin symptoms as did the acylovir (that drug dried up all the viral lesions). Even so I still have some symptoms, just fewer of them. Right now I am hoping that I have been on the antibiotics long enough to have the stomach symptoms abate permanently. It is wonderful to feel hungry again! An appetite. I had forgotten what it was to look forward to eating. Just in time for Thanksgiving too!

I remember having those doom feelings too when I was first sick. I feel this illness affects the mid section of the body. We do have brain tissue in the gut region as well as the brain, so I believe that is why so many of us experience these feelings. Over time the herbs to treat both the small and large intestine have helped me stop experiencing anxiety and doom. I have been taking these two formulas plus the one for the gall bladder for two years now. That's how entrenched I think some of this infection is in the body. If lyme is involved that would explain a lot of what is going on I believe as lyme is known to infect so many of the body's organs.
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