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| It's a lesion, I know, but look at my scalp. It looks like it's covered in goo, even though it doesn't feel like it. Also, are those white pseudohair or fibers inside? I have two of these on each side of my head. I think the antifungal shampoo is bringing things out. |
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| Which comes first,the goo or the lesion,the fibers or the goo.Is this a blowout or a penetration of the skin by a MO that creates the lesion and then the fibers.Nobody knows at this point but may soon,lets hope we do, real soon.If one were to take a pin and prick the skin below the goo then a lesion will form by allowing the goo to enter the subdermal region.My question is what causes the first pimple like things that turn into lesions.Anyone have any ideas on this? Last edited by scabdraggr; October 28th, 2011 at 11:33 AM. |
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| You should look into getting on internal enzymes (pills) asap to start "melting" that goo Several brands when googling "Enzymes" Logo Nutritionals make a line just for Morgellons, also see Healing Grapevine. I go to a ND and they prescribed Transformation Enzymes but theirs are more specific per condition and need to be "prescribed" but they work. My hair was failing out and what remained was "wirey" My skin felt like I had been coated with tar. The enzymes will turn it around but will need to be taken for awhile. Also if not already tried the salt/Vit C treatment from LymePhotos.com is alot of bang for the buck. Also talk Milk Thistle to protect your liver while killing off the microbes. Also important is keep your body alkaline and get on good vitamins w.out iron I wish someone would have suggested this to me 4 years ago and would have saved lots of time, money and not had so many scars!! |
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| There may be some here who might have some problems with enzymes, especially plant based enzymes which are grown on mold. Some are allergic to mold. In addition often the plant based enzyme is grown on a gluten grain base which can cause gut issues for those who are gluten sensitive. Garth Nicholson, Ph.D. (who has treated veterans with Gulf War Syndrome) has suggested Detoxamin suppositories when discussing how to break up lyme biofilms. These suppositories are not cheap, but appear to work. There's been some discussion of Nicholson and Detoxamin on the forum in the past. Tonight I came across this discussion on a lyme forum, one where Nicholson answers questions about biofilm were posed by a member there. Beebee I have asked this before, but perhaps I missed your answer. Is there something special about Logos Enyzmes? They seem so expensive and do not appear to be different from enzymes which are more reasonably priced: Biofilms on Lyme bacteria by winfree, Nov 09, 2009 Is there a way to penetrate, or disrupt, the biofilms on lyme that may be allowing them to escape antibiotics? Biofilm research was shown in the DVD Under Our Skin,; (by Dr. Alan MacDonald?). I have been on antibiotics for years, including IV ceftriaxone for 5 months earlier. When I stop them I may do well for while, but then neuro symptoms intensify again. This last time was being off for 2 months after being on for 11. I have never gotten to point of being symptom free. My Dr. (alternative and conventional medicine) has had me try many of things you have suggested in previous answers, including a frequency alignment device (Life Force 2000) that is to kill lyme through the electrical frequency provided to the skin. I am wondering if the biofilm prevents the lyme from dying, and thus is there a way to get past or remove it? Thank you. Doctor's Answer by Garth L Nicolson, PhDBlank, Nov 11, 2009 To: winfree You have touched on a very important problem, Biofilm. Bacteria in particular are often protected by Biofilm, making it difficult to completely suppress such infections. We recommend a Biofilm-busing EDTA suppository called Detoxamin. This is used every other day to remove biofilm and heavy metals. In clinical trials we have found that Detoxamin increases susceptibility of refractory chronic bacterial infections to antibiotics. For example, in patients with refractory prostatitis Detoxamin increased the effectiveness of tetracycline antibiotics and significantly reduced symptoms, pain, calcium deposits, and increased function and quality of life assessments. by winfree, Nov 11, 2009 To: Garth L Nicolson, PhD Thank you your response. My dr. treating my Lyme is probably familiar with it. I may have had EDTA in 2003 when removing mercury, with almalgam fillings, but not in the suppository form. It was oral and IV. Each time I would be more sick for awhile, perhaps from die off toxins? by Garth L Nicolson, PhD, Nov 11, 2009 To: winfree There is certainly a die-off or Herxheimer reaction when EDTA and antibiotics are used together. When chelation is used alone, there is no cytotoxic effect on the accompanying infections, so they are not affected but there could be an immune response to the broken up biofilm itself or to infectious agents that are released from the biofilm. Don’t assume that your Lyme doc knows about biofilm. medhelp.org/posts/Autoimmune-Disorders/Biofilms-on-Lyme-bacteria/show/1097924
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| Thank you, guys, for the informative responses. I have tried the plant based enzymes and had a lot of gastrointestinal discomfort. I'm very interested in the detoxamin. I will look into it. At this point, I'm taking various supplements and adding more makes me uncomfortable because I'm not sure what negatively reacts. Before all this started I was anal about checking with both my doctors and pharmacists about all of my medication. I even carried lists of medications and dosages in my wallet in case of an accident. Now I don't have the luxury of being overly cautious. I am interested in taking the best quality and effective supplements, so I will consider changing things in order to get what my body needs to heal. I have been using Theraneem lotion to rub the biofilm out of my skin, but haven't found anything for my scalp. The lesions on my legs heal pretty quickly even though they scar up thereafter. But the lesions on my head open up pretty good and even expelled something that looked like half a worm. I posted the picture in my profile. That's the only time I've gotten an indication that I might have the insect part of this disease. I've got three on my head right now that are scabbing over. I think the denorex shampoo has cleared them up. Thanks for your input. I will look into the things you recommend. |
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| Actually the Logo Nutritional ones are way cheaper than the Transformation Enzymes I am taking and they seemed to be such a neat little package. It seemed they may work similar to the Transformation PureZyme, Protease and Protease IFC. Logo was about 100 a month, I am spending about 500.00 a month just on Transformatin then about another 500.00 on Nutramedix, Quinton and several other things. I was sticking to what seemed to be working but would love to hear from someone that takes Logo or another brand and was thinking about them. I might look into that Detoximin. I have seen 2 different ND that agree and according to Carnicoms latest report Enzymes are the best to combat the biofilms. It melts them away or at least makes them vulnerable then to the antibiotics or antimicrobials. I had cut back on them for 6 months due to the cost and then saw an increase in fibers and major loss of Iron and now back on them again. 6 of each a day= 18 pills I am still learning about how they work and if you look up Transformation Enzymes there are more than 20 kinds and different formulas for specific conditions. You have to go to a knowing ND to get started on those, but if you can afford it, I highly recommend them, they have helped. I have terrible allergies to mold, but have not had a problem with Transformation, you can open them up and sprinkle on food, especially if a problem swallowing a pill or don't want to take the capsule part. I am not getting them thru the ND dr, I buy them from several sources, just check who is the cheapest on line at the time I need to order. Beware of any dr who won't let you get supplements from other sources or where you want to buy them from unless a good reason or a known counterfiet which happens just like in pharmaceuticals. If I would have known that Salt Water and Vit C could have nipped it in the bud when I 1st had symptoms 5 years ago, all this could have been averted. I still take it especially on full moon weeks or I indulged in sugar and get the crawlies. I have not taken any antibiotics but take colloidal silver, had not found any MD that thought this was anything but scabies or just an iron deficiency so I gave up on MD's and just rely on what I find here or from the ND's |
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| Okay, I want to try the detoxamin, but can't find it for less than $100 for 30 pills of various strength. Has anyone else tried this, and where do you buy it? Amazon didn't have it even though there was a link to it. I think I'll look a little closer to make sure there isn't something bad going on with it. As far as I can see, it's non toxic and an effective chelation therapy. |
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| I looked at these suppositories, and I am wondering, what is the difference between the EDTA contained in this particular product and EDTA you can get much cheaper? What makes the EDTA in this suppository superior to other forms? All I can see is one is an outrageously priced suppository product and the other is much less pricey and comes in a gel cap and could be used as a suppository if one so chooses? I don't get this outrageous pricing anymore. Its the same dosage, 750 mg, EDTA. You got to be kidding me? And you all can actually afford products like this? ![]() Frito |
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| I would like to mention, the systemic placement of most of the lesions that are exact, this issue would be proving, like herpes that it follows a nerve, lymph system or and also the blood lines. If you had seen all the placements of the hidden involvement you would not imagine that this just spreads from the skin into the body but develops stealthily from the inside out. Too many people here have also stated that if you get one on one side of the body, face, arms you would have one on the other side. My tiny scars on the arm, follow the ganglion nerve down my arm, they are EVENLY spaced, then on both hands in the exact same spot was the start of a ganglion cyst. Then they also opened and I bashed them good with hydrogen peroxide 35% nd the lumps went down. Ganglion Cyst Also during this little trip through time I had myself all healed up from the lesions that had formed at that time they had ONLY formed on one arm, the other arm looked good, wonderful. Then I was burnt on that arm with the hottest water that ever landed on my flesh, by the time I got my shirt of the skin was wasted, soon the lesions appeared on that arm, and within a day in the same exact spots on the other arm. Explain that away, spread quickly, it just ain't gonna happen not in this life. These are not just lesions anyway they are tumors and if you want to see all the parts you just need to see my thread, you will see not only the bright red pulp inside but the red feed capillaries turned into the size of veins. I saw one once on a leg lesion that was actually pumping with the heart, squirting into the tub water, squirt squirt squirt, that was only one, the rest had no pulsing. The interesting thing is when I actually stop blood flow by going over the lesion time after time with hydrogen peroxide 35% you can see the yellow fluid coming out from the ends of the capillaries. Do not make any mistakes what I describe here was not from one little look at the tumors, they were ALL the same. Pictures of LESION/TUMORS inside out Our itching is most likely related to prion disease, JUST LIKE DEM SHEEPS GOT, Prion Disease, Scrapie, Itching There is more much more but this is not a guess, anyone that has dealt with removing a lesion/TUMOR will know of its near indestructible parts, this is not flesh and if you have seen how tough it is you KNOW this do not form in a instant and neither does angiogenesis. Last edited by Baraka Obam; October 29th, 2011 at 07:28 AM. |
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