Started ACE Pathway treatment TODAY

[sportsman1969]

Greetings to all... just noting my initial ACE Pathway treatment that was initially started today 10/24/2011. Went to tanning salon and rubbed my entire body with Moringa Oil. The Moringa Oil is suppose to be one of the rare natural elements with the capability to access this pathway. The Moringa Oil is rubbed directly onto skin and the UV (mercury vapor) light is said to generate an "ALTERNATIVE CELLULAR ENERGY PATHWAY". There is a clinic in Fort Smith, AR currently treating children with Autism with this therapy. The success rate is reportly over 50% recovery. It has been 12 hours since my first treatment. I feel remarkable energy. I wanted to post and will continue to post. I have Morgellons. Although I am not cured even with much relief thru unorthadox treatments, I will not giveup. A cure is out there...Godspeed

[annesco]

Originally Posted by sportsman1969

Greetings to all... just noting my initial ACE Pathway treatment that was initially started today 10/24/2011. Went to tanning salon and rubbed my entire body with Moringa Oil. The Moringa Oil is suppose to be one of the rare natural elements with the capability to access this pathway. The Moringa Oil is rubbed directly onto skin and the UV (mercury vapor) light is said to generate an "ALTERNATIVE CELLULAR ENERGY PATHWAY". There is a clinic in Fort Smith, AR currently treating children with Autism with this therapy. The success rate is reportly over 50% recovery. It has been 12 hours since my first treatment. I feel remarkable energy. I wanted to post and will continue to post. I have Morgellons. Although I am not cured even with much relief thru unorthadox treatments, I will not giveup. A cure is out there...Godspeed

Good luck! Keep hope alive...

[sammy]

hope this works but sadly its not just a skin thing its in our entire system lungs etc. sammy

[sportsman1969]

Sammy, this treatment is not just a skin treatment. It is used to treat a lot of degenerative diseases including Autism. The skin is merely the mothod of application and an alternative healing pathway. The beauty behind this treatment is that the inventor is thinking "outside the box". It is a nontraditional way of healing. You'll just have to research ACE PATHWAY OR ALTERNATIVE CELLULAR ENERGY PATHWAY. One of the benefits is that it BOOSTS the immune system. I cant get over the energy i am feeling! Thx for you reply!-

[Pollyringworm]

My daughter has autism and M. Please keep us posted. I've been drinking the Moringa Miracle tea. I can't say I'm feeling anything, but I only just started. I wanted to order the oil but it was a bit pricey. If it works for you, I'll give it a shot. Even to get more energy and color to my skin. I have to say, though, I'm worried about going to a tanning bed. If you can get M from a pillow, what can you get from a tanning bed where people's skin comes in direct contact with the bed. We all know that the disinfectants they use are worthless against M.

Maybe I'll look for a stand up booth. That I'd go for.

Good luck!

[tcmgpt13]

There's a big push in third world countries to sell the Moringa tree as the tree to cure everything which ails mankind and therefore is the one perfect food. The driving force behind selling this plant appears to be part of the socialist environmental movement. I feel it's being sold at inflated prices to those who live in developed Western nations as a sort of cure all. Yeah, it's all about the Moringa supporters, even if claims being made for this plant exceed what this plant can actually do. It's a way to feed people in less developed nations.

They would like you to have to eat it one day too, of course by having it shipped in and charging a lot for the privilege. To see the huge list of those supporting this drive, including some churches which believe in social justice (or redistribution of wealth), see the link below. Mostly, in the past, the leaves of this tree had been traditionally used to treat arthritis and inflammation. While I am not saying that this is not a useful plant, it is probably one which could stand in line along with many other useful plants which are grown in the West and cost less because they are more readily available to grow locally.

Here's what said on the supporter page. The list is so long I could not post it here, but it is eye opening for what it reveals about this 'movement.':

It's All About the Moringa Supporters!

Moringa Oleifera has the following groups and organizations working to maximize the beneficial properties and the commercial usage. br/>
I found that Moringa is a tropical multipurpose tree that is resistant to drought and is fast growing. Moringa is raising a growing international interest among NGOs, scientists and the private sector, as a source of: food supplement, flocculent for water treatment, cosmetic oil, vegetable, fodder.

The following organizations can use our help in spreading the word on Moringa. With our help we can build a market for the Moringa bi-products and help with contributing to the different progams offered by these orginazations.

moringatoday.com/moringasupporters.html

[sportsman1969]

Tmcgpt13, I too am a skeptic. However, the ACE Pathway treatment really has nothing to do with the healing properties of Moringa Oil in itself. This theropy, has to do with red dye (actually more yellow-orangish properties within the Moringa oil that harness the UV light and in such combination, activate the Alternative Celluar Energy Pathway. In return, this patent pending method, uses the persons own natural celluar energy to defend the body against foreign invaders e.g. viruses, bacteria, fungus ect. It has something to do with skin pigment and hidden capabilities of the body to suppress disease which are dormant without this therapy. As I said in the original post "do the research on ACE pathway" treatment. You can google it. In closing, this is about healing and not about foreign countries conspiring to sell Moringa Oil. Respectfully, sportsman1969

[tcmgpt13]

W. John Martin and the ACE Pathway. Yet again. With a mix of moringa oil added to his original story? LOL. I think we have heard enough already about this on the forum. This man is not the magician he would have folks who are chronically ill buy into which becomes evident when you read the following (it's been posted here on MDR from another site twice recently but maybe you did not read it?). BTW if folks want to they can google lymebusters-morgellons and learn that at least one person with M traveled to Arkansas awhile back to be treated by a nurse there with this protocol, allegedly with Martin somewhere in the background although not there at the time. Anyway to make a long or maybe a sad story short the person with Morgellons did not seem to be helped by this treatment:

W. John Martin Stripped of License -- Is All His Work Bogus?

By Bob Huntington and Cheryl Tai with Gail Kansky

W. John Martin, M.D., Ph.D. has been stripped of his license to do any clinical laboratory testing and his clinical laboratory license has been suspended. But does he even have a laboratory to shut down anymore, and did he ever find a virus that he has continued to call the 'stealth virus'? The most amazing fact we found out was that his license suspension was due to the work of one lone individual who is merely a patient! But let's give you some background first.

Dr. Martin received his medical training in Australia and was the chief of the Immunology/Molecular Pathology Unit at the LAC/USC (University of California) Medical Center as well as a professor of pathology at the USC School of Medicine. He was the former director of the Viral Oncology Branch of the FDA's (Federal Drug Administration) Bureau of Biologics which is the principal agency in charge of testing human vaccines. Before that, he worked at the National Cancer Institute. He emerged as a key player in ME/CFIDS research in the late 1980's with a virus that he named a 'stealth' virus. By the early 90's, The CFIDS Association had funded him for $231,000. Dr. Martin had said he had discovered 'Epione' which was a 'potential therapy of stealth viral infection.' He named it after the wife of a Greek God of medicine known for skills in 'soothing pain'. He assured the CFIDS Association that Epione was already in stage 2 testing with an IND number through the federal government. They cut off his funding but never told the patient community why. The reason they cut off funding? They checked with the FDA and found out all Martin had told them about the status of Epione was a lie. If the CFIDS Association (CAA) had, at that time, been more forthcoming about this to the patient community, which they claim to represent, it may well have ended the destructive path that Martin was taking. But they kept those facts to themselves and have, subsequently, caused a lot of harm to hundreds and, perhaps, thousands, of patients in the decade since this happened. When one of the authors of this piece asked Dr. Martin why the CFIDS Association stopped funding him, he said it was a 'mere misunderstanding.'

Stealth viruses, according to Dr. Martin, 'Do, indeed, exist and can be at the root of many multi-system neuro degenerative illnesses such as Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, fibromyalgia, attention deficit disorder, autism and other diseases causing behavioral changes.' He also lists Lyme's Disease, Gulf War Illness, a bevy of psychiatric illnesses and oncogenic (cancerous) diseases. But nobody has ever been able to replicate his findings in over a decade. So why has his license been pulled?

Martin preyed upon patients who were desperately ill, telling them that he knew what they had (a 'stealth' virus) and only he could save them from their "fatal" disease. His therapeutic regimen included antibiotics, antivirals, diet and vitamins, neurontin, and other medications, including anti-depressants, that have all been tried before and are not new. What was different, was that he wanted you to be 'monitored' closely which includes lot of tests that he does and not 'to conclude a lack of long term benefit' for at least 4-6 months. He thoroughly frightened many by telling them that without funding for him, they had no chance. One person who had been diagnosed with 'CFS' scoured every area to find donors, raising hundreds of thousands of dollars. As a single mother of a young child, she was frightened that her child would be left alone in this world. But then she found out facts that angered her and made her regret all the efforts she had made to raise funds for Martin. She, single-handedly, found out the truth about W. John Martin and is working to expose the truth.

The university where he had his laboratory had him physically removed by security guards in December of 1995! Despite the closure of his laboratory, William John Martin's curriculum vitai (CV) listed his professorship and laboratory at University of California's Department of Pathology and the NCF is in possession of a copy of his 1997-8 CV. Despite being removed from the University, Martin is a tenured professor and the University will only say he is on 'indefinite leave.' Martin told patients that their blood was being monitored by the State of California. When this was checked out, the state denied ever receiving any serum, let alone 'monitoring' any for him. One patient filed a complaint with the State of California Health and Human Services Agency who sent Martin a letter dated September 15, 2002 which stated,'Your CIJA certificate was suspended by Centers for Medicaid Services and your laboratory's approval to receive Medicare and Medicaid payments was canceled, effective August 27, 2002. Your state clinical study license, CLF 10919, has therefore been suspended effective August 27, 2002. You must CEASE and DESIST all clinical laboratory testing immediately if your laboratory is currently performing tests. This information must be reflected in your website Center for Complex Infectious Diseases. You may not perform any clinical laboratory test until you are reinstated and your California clinical laboratory license is reactivated. If you have any questions, please call me....'. The letter was signed by the chief of the Facilities Licensing Section. There are multiple allegations of fraud now facing W. John Martin and the depositions may have already begun by the time you are reading this report.

When we checked his website in late January, there was nothing to indicate that he no longer was testing. In fact, there was still a link to tell you about stealth virus testing and how suggestions, upon testing, would be 'relayed to your physician.' So we e-mailed the webmaster, Carolyn Viviani. Our message bounced back. We called The Heritage Foundation on January 29th. They are 'an 'umbrella' tax deductible Foundation that houses and facilitates many organization's funding according to the Martin's website. Veronica Flagge, 'who is monitoring the donations' said she 'was not told about losing any clinic license' but that Martin had not received any funding since last summer.

The National CFIDS Foundation did not bother to call Dr. Martin. Two of our board members have already had several lengthy conversations with him in the past with the same result. Dr. Martin is a prolific conversationalist who always talks in circles and never really answers any pointed questions.

There are hundreds and hundreds of patients who have been scared by the tactics of Dr. Martin but one woman did something about it and hasn't finished her work yet. She's been in touch with a journalist about this story and a story aired on February 13, 2003 about there being no such thing as a 'stealth virus' (Los Angeles NBC TV). One member of the CDC on the TV news program said they were unable to replicate any of Dr. Martin's work on the stealth virus. The CDC holds little validity with us, however, as their own track record leaves a lot to be desired. The television report had the reporter going to Martin's house to interview him after leaving several messages which went unanswered and going there twice before. This time, Martin was in his driveway. When he saw her approach, he ran, leaving his sandals behind in the driveway! Others trying to reach him since have reported that his voicemail has been inactivated.

There is a 'Stealth Virus' group on the internet where one must be invited to be join. One of our own board members has reported Martin has pointedly ignored any questions about the NBC broadcast on the group list. (It is not difficult to join other groups under a different name than your own.) The postings to this group are heavily monitored and those asking questions that Martin does not want to answer are never posted to the group. The group shut down for weeks at a time after the TV story aired.

ncf-net.org/forum/Johnmartin.html

[sportsman1969]

To all concerned, some people are negative by nature. Being skeptical or even cautious is understandable. However, when you quote a bible scripture as part of your profile and then continue to spread gossip it is called "hipocracy". I am here to share ideas new and old. I am here to find relief, a cure and to help others. I respond to posts and make posts of my own to pass on what is currently being tested. Someones past is not of my concern, I feel I have common sense and know when to buy a product for testing and even implement new testing ideas as a formidable defense against Morgellons. If I am told once that a persons motives or reputation is questionable and I continue with a treatment based on preliminary findings, that is a choice/decision I have made. My results will be posted as a testimony of truth good or bad. I do not need biased information which is available via a google search. I have the ability to research information like the average individuals on this forum. If someone on this forum wishes to discredit a PhD for making a false statement they should keep it to themselves as this is a waste of my time. To explain I would merely say I nor anyone I know is privelged to have ALL the facts sorrounding William John Martins reasons for stating the research was in phase 2. Perhaps he needed addition funding? Perhaps it was the collapse of the funding that lead to patients suffering? Speculation is not a tool. It is a diversion from which valuable time is lost. I am more focused on pioneering new ideas and following through with treatments that may work and which have not been tested to completion of reasonable conclusions. Ty

[tcmgpt13]

Gossip? What gossip? Martin did lose his laboratory research license in California. That is a fact. Not gossip. Look it up for yourself in CA. You know. Google it? We have had many here who claim to want to 'cure' us when all they really want to do is sell to us, fake hope and false dreams. While lightening pockets. So far most of your posts have been littered with product mentions. Past history does matter as in this case the ace pathway story seems to reveal a man who appears to be less than above board. Your past history here counts too. And is seen in the same shaded light.

quote=sportsman1969;85228]To all concerned, some people are negative by nature. Being skeptical or even cautious is understandable. However, when you quote a bible scripture as part of your profile and then continue to spread gossip it is called hipocracy I am here to share ideas new and old. I am here to find relief, a cure and to help others. I respond to posts and make posts of my own to pass on what is currently being tested. Someones past is not of my concern, I feel I have common sense and know when to buy a product for testing and even implement new testing ideas as a formidable defense against Morgellons. If I am told once that a persons motives or reputation is questionable and I continue with a treatment based on preliminary findings, that is a choice/decision I have made. My results will be posted as a testimony of truth good or bad. I do not need biased information which is available via a google search. I have the ability to research information like the average individuals on this forum. If someone on this forum wishes to discredit a PhD for making a false statement they should keep it to themselves as this is a waste of my time. To explain I would merely say I nor anyone I know is privelged to have ALL the facts sorrounding William John Martins reasons for stating the research was in phase 2. Perhaps he needed addition funding? Perhaps it was the collapse of the funding that lead to patients suffering? Speculation is not a tool. It is a diversion from which valuable time is lost. I am more focused on pioneering new ideas and following through with treatments that may work and which have not been tested to completion of reasonable conclusions. Ty[/quote]