Help for a friend with M?

[Pollyringworm]

She doesnt think shes got m, so im posting this to get some replies and match some symptoms to help her see.

Shes in a perpetual fight with flies on her, on her son, in her house, and she is desperate. Shes trying all the toxic and some non toxic things to get rid of the crawling and biting. She has the fast flying bugs that are white and shaped like a "c" and curl into a dot to crawl. She feels them crawl out of bath water and into her mouth and nose. They make her and her young son vomit profusely after cleaning. Im worried about the toxicity in her house. She constantly sprays raid and bug bs. She has nothing coming from her skin but black larvae in the bath and sees black dots on everything.

She does manage to get rid of them and feel normal about every two months for about a month. Is this the cycle of this insect? She has mold problems in her basement and phorid flies in house.

Im about to ship her some Martins Nylar that helped me, but she needs to know what shes dealing with. What do you guys think?

[beebee]

Sounds more like Lieshmanaisis. What part of the world are they in?


Here is more info: Leishmaniasis - PubMed Health


Morgellons is more of a blood/gut disease that just manifests into the skin.

[beebee]

PS they may be better off to use topical and household cleaner enzymes as they are not so toxic and will "melt" the larve.

But those symptoms do not sound like Morgellons but does not mean they don't have it as those with Morgellons are more attractive to mites and "bugs"

There is a test where you swish red wine in your mouth the hydroden peroxide. If positive for Morgellons you will see fibers present in the spit.

[tcmgpt13]

Leishmania is caused by a blood borne protozoa. The sand fly vectors this disease but I am fairly certain these types of sand flies would not be readily found within the house as is being described by Polly. A type of house fly however could be.

quote=beebee;85074]Sounds more like Lieshmanaisis. What part of the world are they in?


Here is more info: Leishmaniasis - PubMed Health

Morgellons is more of a blood/gut disease that just manifests into the skin.[/quote]

[beebee]

Here is the latest research on Morgellons which shows it has an effect on blood.

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We are in Texas and have Texas A & M. They have a place to send bugs and they will tell you what kind it is. Most states and countries should also have an outlet than can help identify what kind of bug it is. Also some plant nurserys may can help you.

I know that there are new breeds of super lice and scabies that are very hard to kill and resistant

At 1st we thought we had a bug infestation causing my problems and took samples 6 times to have them checked out and at no time did they ever find a bug. So we got our own microscope and found the stuff coming out of me were just waded up fibers that looked like black sold dots to the naked eye and looked like lymephotos.com - also see salt/vit c treatment that may help.

I realized what I thought was lint was actually coming from me, but again after looking at microscope found they were spores.

They have low cost microscopes at Walmart.com.

Good luck because I know how frustrating it can be as we spent 30k to day trying to figure it out and threw out 2 year old carpet and all apholstered furniture, comforters etc.... But trust me, they would rather have a strange bug infestation than Morgellons.

My Morgellons was confirmed by a ND that took a slide of blood which is harder to do on your own but is possible. Carnicom website will also show what the affected blood looks like.

Also check out birdmite.org for lots of ideas as it may be bird mites. You would hope so, and then may can rule out Morgellons.

[annesco]

Originally Posted by beebee

Here is the latest research on Morgellons which shows it has an effect on blood.

Aerosol Operation Crimes & Cover Up

We are in Texas and have Texas A & M. They have a place to send bugs and they will tell you what kind it is. Most states and countries should also have an outlet than can help identify what kind of bug it is. Also some plant nurserys may can help you.

I know that there are new breeds of super lice and scabies that are very hard to kill and resistant

At 1st we thought we had a bug infestation causing my problems and took samples 6 times to have them checked out and at no time did they ever find a bug. So we got our own microscope and found the stuff coming out of me were just waded up fibers that looked like black sold dots to the naked eye and looked like lymephotos.com - also see salt/vit c treatment that may help.

I realized what I thought was lint was actually coming from me, but again after looking at microscope found they were spores.

They have low cost microscopes at Walmart.com.

Good luck because I know how frustrating it can be as we spent 30k to day trying to figure it out and threw out 2 year old carpet and all apholstered furniture, comforters etc.... But trust me, they would rather have a strange bug infestation than Morgellons.

My Morgellons was confirmed by a ND that took a slide of blood which is harder to do on your own but is possible. Carnicom website will also show what the affected blood looks like.

Also check out birdmite.org for lots of ideas as it may be bird mites. You would hope so, and then may can rule out Morgellons.

Beebee,

Did you have a bird mite infestation? I did, and thought that this condition was due to the mites. But after a few weeks, the symptoms changed and the stuff that was coming out of my scalp and off of my skin were the black specks and fibers, as well as the tubuler things and little grey comma shaped things. It's my belief that the bird mite issue vectored the outbreak of M in my case. At this point, I'm hoping all of the mites are gone, because I can't battle a severe case of mite infestation as they describe on birdmites.org, as well as the Morgellons. Those people don't can't get rid of the mites either, even after years, so I can't help but believe that they either have M and don't know it, or something else.

[beebee]

We did not have a bird mite infestation. Morgellons is thought to be an auto immune response to Lymes disease not a bug infestation.

I went to the Austin Conference in April and in all the official research (which is not much) no link to bird mites has been found. Nor bugs but I have found when I am outside or near any bugs, they are more attracted to me than any others.

To rule out Morgellons, have them do the red wine test to see if they are affected

Materials:

Plastic bathroom cups.
3% H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide)
Merlot Red Wine (use approx a $10 bottle)
Measuring spoons
Toothbrush/toothpaste
Watch or clock

Procedure:

1) Brush teeth very well.
2) Rinse mouth with water thoroughly.
3) Mix 2tsp (10mL) of Merlot Red Wine with 1tsp (5mL) Hydrogen Peroxide in a plastic cup.
4) Use the red wine / peroxide solution as a mouth rinse; Rinse mouth *vigorously* with the wine/peroxide solution for exactly five minutes. Make sure to swish it in your cheeks+gums, etc for the full 5 mins.
5) Now spit all the rinse into a bathroom cup.
6) Carefully examine the rinse for fibers. They are invariably present, and should look somewhat like wet chewing tobacco, or little peices of wood, you may need a magnifieing glass to see them, have one ready, Prepare to be shocked and upset. These are components of nanotech pathogens which we have all been infected with, most likely via chemtrails.

Optional
7) You can add 91% or higher IPA (Isopropyl Alcohol) to the precipitated fibers to remove the red pigment caused by the wine. The fibers generally float like a jellyfish on top of the IPA.

Here is the Carnicom website: Carnicom Institute: Scientific Research for the Benefit of Humanity

Like I said, we are all hopeful you have a bird infestation as Morgellons is not cureable but can get better but like the worst case of Diabetes, instead of insulin levels you are always watching ph, iron level and hemoglobin and most foods are not on your diet. Nothing is covered by insurance.

[Pollyringworm]

Bee- shes in Minnesota. From what i read about leishmaniasis is that it causes children to vomit, not adults. Shes vomiting, too. She also says she can see the white things crawling on her body to her face. I feel horrible for her.

[tcmgpt13]

Leishmaniasis is caused by a protozoa, so all symptoms of that would be internal once bitten by a sand fly. Unless she has been around a service member who contracted this disease overseas, highly doubtful, given where she lives, that it is leishmaniasis. I hope she can capture one of the bugs and take it to either an entomologist or a county extension office for I.D.

quote=Pollyringworm;85115]Bee- shes in Minnesota. From what i read about leishmaniasis is that it causes children to vomit, not adults. Shes vomiting, too. She also says she can see the white things crawling on her body to her face. I feel horrible for her.[/quote]