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| I found this info with the help from Polly and thought it was important so I wanted to make a new thread. Apparently, this former parasitologist is claiming that he worked with the CDC and was "let go" when he acknowledged and was infected with Morgellons. This was posted a week ago in another forum. If it is legit, it could be the breakthrough that we have all been hoping for. This is also of interest to those of us who have been suspecting fly association with this disease. Quote:
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| Thanks for posting this MeganM.......I would like to point out that I had a noticeably overwhelming craving for SUGAR during my last breakout on my face. This was after breaking some ribs in a Jiu Jitsu tournament on 8/20/2011. My immune system was compromised, healing was very very slow....i caught a cold for my birthday (apx 1 month after the tournament) ....and then pow! my face broke out....BAD! Then I started losing my mind looking at specs and dust and realized I was excreting lint from my body. Fruit flys are near me more noticeable than ever before....not tons, but i have seen quite a few during this last breakout...in my personal bathroom, and in my bedroom....not in the kitchen by the banannas......Hmmmmmm Sugar must feed this disease! |
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| I guess I have questions why this guy is not a whistle blower. Why does he post on line as apposed to getting attention through channels that would garner more attention and publicity. He has morgelons too! He has a CDC back ground, some one with juice will listen to him. So you can't believe every thing you read fellow sufferers. |
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| Sorry, I do not think the person who is quoted in this thread is on the up and up. For one thing the writing drifts all over the place and there has been little to no attempt made to add paragraphs to the post. The person who wrote it makes a lot of grammatical and spelling errors. Words are sometimes incorrectly used. A claim is made by the writer that the two names of some of the parasites are not known to him/her because s/he does not have access to the paperwork. Quote from the post: [which I do not at the moment have the paperwork which gives me their proper names]. Very convenient. In another sentence the mystery poster says: quote [This 'super bug', as it was called in Jordanian]. The language spoken in Jordan is standard Arabic, not some fabricated language called Jordanian. This poster seems to feel the need to make him/herself feel important by claiming to have put the post into layman's terms. Yet none of the assertions made in this post have been backed up with any scientific or verifiable facts whatsoever. It sounds as if many of the descriptions of symptoms experienced and bugs seen were cobbled together from shared information various folks have posted about Morgellons all over the internet. I think Morgellons has become the source material for many who love to tell tall tales and also assign to themselves a sense of self importance. It's a shame as IMO such posts make us sound more than a little strange...
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| I agree that it is a little to good to be true but what gets me is that he/she talks about Emergency 2 Infectious disease jump suits and has a convincing story about working on a suspected parasitic investigation team. For a fabricated story, someone did their research. The spelling doesn't bother me because most doctors can't spell. On the other hand, why wouldn't this person come out and expose this unless he/she has been threatened or he/she doesn't want to be known as the DOP scientist? Would I come out and expose a possible government cover up the size of Mt. Rushmore and ruin my reputation and put my family in danger?... not sure. It may or may not be for real but it sure is interesting! I have no doubt that eventually an important doctor or scientist will eventually get M since they are not immortal and when this happens, it will be interesting to see how they handle it. |
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| Didn't Dr. Harvey already get the title of being the DOP doctor in that last Washington post article where he was quoted discussing mutant nematodes? According to what Kilani of Clongen labs said in that same article some scientists (including him) disagreed with what Harvey was claiming to see as far as parasitic involvement and Morgellons. Kilani quote: ['Some fellow Morgellons researchers -- many of whom were scheduled to meet at the University of Texas in San Antonio this month -- say Harvey's theory goes too far and that the fibers they've examined are in no way associated with any living organism. 'I have a lot of respect for him,' Kilani said, but his theory is really too far-fetched.' ] Anyway, I believe the person quoted in your posts is just making it all up as he goes along. I sincerely doubt that this person is a doctor, MD, DO, or Phd. What Harvey had to say about Morgellons and nematodes in the Post article is IMO information to become truly excited about as surely others were studying this with him and saw this too? The question is who were the folks who might have seen what Harvey saw and why have they not spoken out as yet? Kilani's claim (in the above quote) that Harvey was looking at inanimate fibers is quite interesting too. Why were other scientists so ready to dismiss what Harvey said he saw without any further study? Those are questions I would love to see answered. I am not holding my breath for replies to that however. The Post article discussion of Harvey and what he said about possible nematode involvement: [William Harvey, 70, who serves as chairman of the MRF board, has taken those theories one step farther. He says he became interested in Morgellons research after successfully battling chronic fatigue syndrome and made it his mission to find cures for such unexplained illnesses. He wouldn't be specific, explaining that he first wants the results of his research to appear in a top-notch, peer-reviewed journal such as the Lancet. "This may be the story of the century," he says. A semi-retired doctor in Colorado Springs who spent most of his career working in space medicine for the Johnson Space Center, Harvey says he may have found not only why Morgellons patients would both scratch and act strange, but also what could be the "genesis of probably most chronic human illnesses," such as autism, obesity, chronic fatigue and bipolar disorder. It all boils down to this: mutant worms. Harvey hypothesizes that a type of nematode, a wormlike parasite that lives in the soil as well as in the guts or lungs of about half the animals on the planet, mutated somewhere in the 1970s in Southeast Asia and jumped from animals to humans. The parasite is easily spread through the fecal-oral route if someone, for example, is out working in the garden, fails to wash his or her hands thoroughly and then eats an orange. Or it gets into the lungs by inhaling sputum or by kissing. The worm then takes up residence in the colon, Harvey theorizes, and the body's immune system holds it in check. But when the immune system falters, the worms swarm in the body. That's what happens, Harvey hypothesizes, after a human is infected with a strain of bacteria first reported in 1986, Chlamydophila pneumonia. These bacteria like to live in immune cells, Harvey says, and they feast on those cells' energy. With the host's immune system compromised, the mutant nematodes begin reproducing exponentially, Harvey suspects. They burrow a hole in the wall of the colon, then usually travel at night through the bloodstream or the lymphatic system or crawl in hordes between the layers of the skin, like other species of nematodes are known to do, to the parts of the body with the most blood flow: the face, head and nose. There, a cranial nerve leads right into the brain. A pileup of worms could jam blood and oxygen flow to the brain, Harvey says. "That may explain the psychological symptoms," including the hallucinations, he says. It may explain why Pam Winkler took herself to the emergency room recently. She said that a huge bump had appeared on the side of her skull in the middle of the night. By morning, she said, the bump was gone, but she could feel crawling all over her face. She wasn't making it up, she swore. And she put her stepsister, with whom she's been living since she got out of the state hospital, on the phone. "I can see them. They're moving down from her head to her eye," said Karen DeWeese. "They're about one and a half inches long and a half-inch wide. They look like bubbles under the skin." The ER doctor later found nothing. The fibers, according to Harvey's theory, are really the hard shells, which he calls cuticles, that these worms shed at five stages as they grow from egg to larvae to adult. The red fibers are the males, he says. Blue fibers are female. 'Using a 2,000-power microscope, you can see inside them,' he says. 'They look like little stovepipes to me. I can tell the blue ones are female because there's a kink in the middle for the sexual organs and some kind of pouch. And we have pictures of them laying thousands of eggs.' 'If you write this theory, it's probably going to sound like someone's come from the mental institution,' Harvey says. 'But the fact is that this is a real disease, and it appears to be growing.'] washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011603134_pf.html quote=Meagan] The spelling doesn't bother me because most doctors can't spell. On the other hand, why wouldn't this person come out and expose this unless he/she has been threatened or he/she doesn't want to be known as the DOP scientist? Would I come out and expose a possible government cover up the size of Mt. Rushmore and ruin my reputation and put my family in danger?... not sure.[/quote
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) Last edited by tcmgpt13; October 14th, 2011 at 08:19 PM. |
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| By no means am I saying that this is a real doctor posting this but the possibility is there. Harvey wrote this article in 2008. Why was his research never published and like you said, why haven't any of his assistants published it by now? Dr. Wymore has also hit a road block and has not come up with any new info. The MRF has not posted anything for years. Something, someone, or somehow, this information is being suppressed. Individuals like ourselves are discovering more than the scientist who are supposed to be on our side and have the more advanced equipment. The only ones you hear from nowadays are the handful of doctors who are trying to make a buck and they cannot tell us what it is, only their treatment suggestions. Personally, if I were a scientist who actually had a conscience and I not only experienced this crap myself but knew what was causing it, I would not be publicizing it... I would try to help as many people as I could without notice. Even Dr. Harvey had his observations and never told us how to treat it because he wanted to "publish" his findings and become famous. Meanwhile, he dies (RIP) and we are stuck suffering and clueless. Anyone who has ever come close to the truth is either dead or very, very quiet. Anonymity sounds logical to me. You have to wonder if these scientist knew how much we were suffering, would they have kept it quiet so long just to make a buck or become famous? I have a hard time believing that someone does not know exactly what this is. It has been years and with the right equipment, it should not be that difficult to figure it out. Even I, with my $120 microscope, can tell that the hairs are not human hairs. IMHO, I believe that this disease is so big, involving something the government screwed up on, that scientist publishing their findings is NOT going to be how this unfolds. It may very well be a CDC worker who has contracted it and spills it to the world without recognition. |
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| I have zero background information on him. All i know is his name is michael Ridely, MD. PHd. I have searched and cant validate his credentials. But, he sounds intelligent and he is a sufferer. I just want to add that i still think the insect phase is secondary to the original organism that i seriously believe is fungal. The lesions, the lint, the hair issues that respond to antifungals... What do you guys think? |
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| Sure seems a lot of ideas about the origins of M have to do with manmade chemicals, genetic modification and other science stuff that people instinctively are afraid of. This might turn out to be true. M might involve some man made chemical mutagen and/or xenobiotic or genetically modified organism. It might also be a totally natural parasite/pathogen that has not yet been identified. Truth is that's unknown so far. Wanted to point out that in an old acupuncture text, I did find a reference to a "hairy furuncle illness" which sure appears to be of totally natural origins. The text I am referring to was originally written in about the 1930s and was the first documentation of a system of acupuncture that was handed down orally in a family for over 20 generations. The implication is this is an old illness that arises when specific environmental factors allow it (pathogen/parasite/whatever) to thrive. I am not particularly quiet and have written a paper about this for other acupuncturists.just not a lot of primary care provider acupuncturists have seen M patients. None of the ones I know have treated M patients. not having a good time here - arm is swollen and skin is inflamed, with days of weird repeated surges of severe itching followed by M objects emerging. I have recently seen shiny polygons, blobby gunky stuff, colorful filaments that feel wiry, and am totally sleep deprived. I am still taking TCM herbs and hate to think how much worse I'd feel without these. Last edited by jeanlong; October 15th, 2011 at 12:56 AM. |
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