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| This thing came out of my face. Does anyone know what the heck it is? It has the body of a worm, the weirdest head and the red and blue fibers inside it. Anybody? Please? Head.jpg Body.jpg Body (4).jpg Body (3).jpg Tail.jpg |
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| Hi MeaganM, Save it! I never had anything like this coming out of me, but had a "honeycomb" scab. Wish I would have saved it (and a lot of other samples that came out of my body when I first got sick). I never saw bugs, but I do not doubt you. Hopefully you will get through the stage of weird stuff coming out of your body soon. itwl, ~jonsi
__________________ There is a reason I have "Morgellons". Helping and teaching others how to survive in our toxic world may be the reason. Hang in there everyone who has this. |
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| MeaganM - I get these, too! Only from time to time. Same exact thing. There is always at least one long fiber coming out and fibers in the middle. Sometimes I think they look like silicone blobs with fibers in the middle - other times I think they are an egg or insect. I know you also have the bad scalp issues like me - anyone else with the scalp problems ever get these? What has helped my face the most is using a strong exfoliation cleanser every day, followed with a moisturizer with zinc O. Great work. Wish I still had my computer scope - the cord was lost when we moved (although maybe my husband "lost" it on purpose as he hated my "obsession" with documenting things). Best of luck! |
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| Thanks Meagan, these are really good images. Bravo, well done. Do you know the magnification, please? At first look, I had some thoughts. None of these images of the 'whole' object appear to be any organism or living thing --in and of itself. However, there are a couple of intriguing things in two of the jpegs. In body.jpg, in the upper left of the image, near the top 'wall' of the object, there is a long bacillus-shaped object just inside the 'wall', this looks like a long rod-shape with an empty center. I would like to see a larger magnification of this rod-shaped structure. It could be a bacillus (rod-shaped) bacteria or just an air bubble, but cannot tell from thiis magnification. The blue fibers look like endogenic fibers eg produced by the body. There are several bacteria that manipulate apoptosis (Programmed Cell death aka PCD) for their own purpose. Staph, strep, listeria, clostridium. There are also gut bacteria (flora) that produce chemicals that influence PCD- exotoxins cytolysins bacterial haemolysins, eg (beta-hemolysin of strep agalactiae) endoproducts, eg LPA (lipotiechoic acid)..... All Programmed Cell Death pathways involve a) an intrinsic mechanism --mitochondrial disruption and b) extrinsic signaling. Staph aureus is particularly noteworthy. It affects certain locations of the body: skin, soft tissue, bones, respiratory tract, endo-vascular, gastro-intestinal and causes sepsis. It is the only one in the above mentioned group that affects PCD in an antognistic way. In other words, all of the above bacteria have an effect on programmed Cell Death by causing it to occur. Staph aureus, on the other hand, is the only one in the list known to inhibit PCD. The particular exotoxins produced by s. aureus are called apoptosis regulatory molecules, or ARMs for short: SEB- staphylococcal enterotoxin B TSST-1 -Toxic Shock Syndrome Toxin 1 alpha-toxin SpA -Superantigenic protein A SEA - staphylococcal enterotoxin A SEAD - staphylococcal enterotoxin D SEAE - staphylococcal enterotoxin E ? -some unidentified ARMs. Further, staph aureus targets several specific cells, some of which are induced to cell death, others which are prevented from cell death: Cell targeted to apoptosis (cell death): CD4 T-cells, T-cells, B-cells, Epithelial cells, B esinophils, monocytes, endothelial B T keratinocytes, osteocytes, and chondrocytes. Cells targeted to anti-apoptosis: Esinophils and monocytes. The other image that you have that is interesting is body4.jepeg. in the right half of the image, near the top 'wall' of the object, on the right hand side of the image, you see prismatic/glowing object (artifact or moisture), look directly to the left of this to see, a very circular object that has ends that do not quite meet up at the top. This might be something, whether 'alive' or not, is hard to tell without further magnification. It might be a ruptured cell, or the cell wall of an egg or ova, or a filament that has simply curled up on itself. Would like to see a larger magnification of this object. As regards s. aureus, I would like to see greater magnification of all the dark spots in the two jpg images I note here. Whether they are melanin or bacteria would be interesting to see. Jo spends her life looking down a scope.... and I'd like to read her take on your images. Last edited by skylark99; October 6th, 2011 at 08:18 AM. Reason: spelling and punctuation |
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| Wow Sky, thanks for all the info! I took most of these at 4x mag but I have lots at 10x mag of the areas that you pointed out which I am posting below. My 40x doesn't work on my microscope. So you don't think this is a whole organism but maybe a sac or something that contains bacteria? When it came out, it was whiter and thicker than the typical fibers which is the only reason why I even placed it under the microscope. Unfortunately, I threw it away after taking all these photos. Zen, I haven't looked under the microscope in a long time because my husband doesn't like is either. I decided to pull it out this weekend to see what happens to the fibers after applying certain treatments on the slide such as GSE, salt water, etc... Those are interesting as well and I plan to post a new threat on that. Husbands can be sooo frustrating. ![]() I did not apply anything to this thing in these pics... PICT0550.jpg PICT0555.jpg PICT0556.jpg PICT0557.jpg PICT0558.jpg |
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| Do not throw any of your samples away, just use an envelope, plastic bag, or a small specimin jar should be able to keep 10 years or more worth of this mess in. Some day, weird things like this one may prove you had this disease, who knows. I am sure your DNA is in there somwhere. I just wish we could grow NEW us out of them and then train them as mini me's. |
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| I don't know, Meagan, what these round-ish things are that are in many of these images. The magnification is too low. They might be bacteria, or they might be artifacts eg debris of some kind, or again, perhaps even air bubbles. I still do not see any positively-looking bacteria or parasites or eggs. You said that you did not add anything to the slide? No salt or other chemical or stain? Nothing? Can you tell me if these are illuminated from the top or underneath? In this image 0550: Attachment 3207 at the right hand side, where the red fiber starts to point to the right, there is an oval shape that looks to contain four round shapes with lighter colored centers. This is very interesting. I do not know what these are, but I wish Jo had got them on micrograph at 400 microns. These round objects seem to have a different texture and substance to the surrounding material (outside the oval shape). They also seem nestled next to one another. I do not see any more in the rest of this image. I will say that IF they were eggs or ova of some sort, then the outside edges and the colored centers of these round objects would be perfectly, perfectly round or oval; but I note that they have somewhat irregular edges and centers. Because there are only four of them in this image, because they are all next to one another, nestled-like, and because they are so much alike, they must be significant to some degree -at least that is what makes them stand out to me. Last edited by skylark99; October 6th, 2011 at 02:47 PM. Reason: missing -ly |
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| Hi Sky, no I didn't add anything to it at all and it is illuminated from underneath. It's a pretty cheap microscope. Now I wish I had saved it but I've gotten so used to throwing my samples away. I didn't want to be tempted into bringing them to a doctor and labeled DOP. Thanks again.Meagan |
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| Hi Meg, Can you take images of each section of the sample (with overlap) - so all of the sample is recorded. If possible do this twice - at 4x and 10x Then post the images here or email to: info@morgellonsuk.org.uk I will then put them together like a jigsaw. Doing this may show whether your sample has an intestinal tract (almost clear to the naked eye). Jo |
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