I have a question

[Dzana]

Is this madness of diagnosing ppl who r infested with parasites as delusional only a western thing?
I have spoken to some ppl from eastern europe and situation over there is much different... doctors there demand samples ... they want to see them....they r not being thrown in the bin as over here........

the Hippocratic oath........thrown in the bin together with our samples....... with the permission of the Government ....
wtf is going on.......
there r doctors stepping out and speaking on behalf of patients due to that over there....... but over here we wont see them..... they fear for their own asses......... wot a system of lies we r living in.....
is this Eugenics?

wtf is this? can someone explain it pls?
and how many ppl need to be misdiagnosed and mistreated and sent home to die with diagnosis of delusion...... before they declare such doctors unfit to work??
is there such a thing at all?

[tcmgpt13]

Somehow I doubt that much will change involving some medical practices found in what are so called developed nations. There could be a bit of eugenics on the horizon I suppose. All you have to do is read some of John Holdren's (science czar) past writings from the '70's to follow that train of thought, though apparently he currently denies such thinking. Guess we are left to draw our own conclusions. It would appear no one cares much about those with M or many other chronic disease issues, but whether by design or outright negligence I do not know.

Michelle Malkin The science czar stonewalls

[jeanlong]

The problem is partly about how MDs here are required to do a diagnosis. the method legally required generally in the 50 states goes something like this. If I am an MD (I'm not and MD, lets just say this for this discussion), and a patient has these problems, I may choose a biopsy. Assuming the patient agrees, the tissue sample will be sent to the lab. they'll examine it visually and run tests. If a known disease is confirmed the pathologist will say what it is.

the problem comes when there are emerging diseases. If there is a new parasite or a new pathogen found, the lab report will NOT say we see it and there it is, and the taxonomy is unknown. It will say no known pathogen found and/or no-parasite-found/NPF. the MD is pretty much required to make a diagnosis that it is an allergy or a hallucination or DOP etc. the MD is not given latitude to say, well, it's a new pathogen or a new parasite that is an emerging disease because that's considered speculation and the MD risks losing his/her state license.

But if I'm not an MD and am another type of licensed health care professional (as I am), I could simply get my magnifer out, look at the skin and unusual objects and say, yes there is a parasite or a cyst or whatever it is that I see.

This has become such an issue I've recruited 2 of my OMD buddies and they're reading the morgellons case definition. they're deciding if they want to offer care as licensed primary health care providers for this M problem. they and the other OMDs I know never heard of M before this. If they do I'll show them the herb remedies that are working for me and explain the points prescription for acupuncture treatments. cuz I think it's deplorable that the M patients are being treated as if their illness is not "real."

When we look back at emerging diseases, for example the hanta virus it can take 30 years for it to be understood and sorted out by MDs. Expert TCM clinicians are better prepared to assist with emerging diseases than MDs for many difficult health problems.

Originally Posted by Dzana

Is this madness of diagnosing ppl who r infested with parasites as delusional only a western thing?
I have spoken to some ppl from eastern europe and situation over there is much different... doctors there demand samples ... they want to see them....they r not being thrown in the bin as over here........

the Hippocratic oath........thrown in the bin together with our samples....... with the permission of the Government ....
wtf is going on.......
there r doctors stepping out and speaking on behalf of patients due to that over there....... but over here we wont see them..... they fear for their own asses......... wot a system of lies we r living in.....
is this Eugenics?

wtf is this? can someone explain it pls?
and how many ppl need to be misdiagnosed and mistreated and sent home to die with diagnosis of delusion...... before they declare such doctors unfit to work??
is there such a thing at all?

[pat]

Dzana, this morg 'thing' was very likely fiddled with in the west and the east knows nothing about it.
Watch this link that should tell you volumes,he's missed off the word order but the message is clear. These 2 nations are going for broke. We are going for peace and prosperity.The hell we are -just the opposite actually. What a set of hypocrits and liars to boot. And these are our 'leaders'. So when they say they don't know what this is, bet that oh yes they do. These people are so corrupt that lying is second nature.They have no wish to help humanity,they would never call all the thousands with this 'delusional' if they knew what compassion meant. If they cared and truly did not know what it is they would have started a proper funded investigation not a half hearted effort with a few dollars thrown at it. Let us decamp to the east and see if we get any answers.
Express.co.uk - Home of the Daily and Sunday Express | UK News :: Barack Obama: Britain and U.S. will forge new world

[tcmgpt13]

I want to choke when I read some of the statements contained in the lies from the article you posted. This statement for one:" Let there be no doubt, the United States and United Kingdom stand squarely on the side of those who long to be free." Freedom? In the Middle Eastern Arab nations? What a joke. Meanwhile some some Christians are being killed and their churches burned, only briefly discussed here:

Egyptian activists 'to form Nazi party', n... JPost - Middle East