For Those With Lesions

[posey]

I never had lesions; yet. However, I just came across this article and thought I'd share it here for those who do have lesions. I think it may be something I'd try if I had lesions.

Article:

If you have lesions that contain wormlike parasites - try this.

Beware of your face because it might leave a huge bruise on some areas like cheekbones so don't use on face until you have a few days that its ok to look bruised. The rest of your skin tolerates it better.

Go to Big 5 or other store that supplies campers and get a snake venom extractor for about $20. Its a little suction device with a small cup that you put on your skin and it sucks out poisons. It didn't exactly suck out the parasite whole but it seemed to kill the top ones and the next day they were more easily removed dead. I had some bleeding which I was good with because I don't think they are ever completely out unless the lesion bleeds a lot. I was pretty stunned at what came out of some of them.

It worked even better if I sealed them afterwards with either liquid bandage or tape. I just use the tape end of a bandaid and tape it shut. They need to breathe so they suffocate. The problem is there are more deep underneath that are not affected and I think the extractor brings them more to the surface where they can then be killed.

Its kind of scary to use - its some serious suction but it works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, try to find your original lesion area and work on suctioning that out. I think when the original spot dies a lot of other areas die with it.

A brave thing to try on your lesions that really helps - Morgellons Support Network

[tcmgpt13]

For anyone who wants to read what another member reported about using these snake venom kits:

August 18th, 2009, 04:52 PM
Dove
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For Vic,

The bits and pieces you see, just might be several. They just look like globs, globs with specks, sometimes long like strings, etc. and fluid. What you see in my photo, that is it. For me, what is under the skin is different than what I pull from my eye, ear, nose or throat.

The following is not medical advice nor is it intended to replace instructions you have been given by a physician.

This is what I use:
Quote:
Snake Bite Kit, Coghlan's $3.95
This Snake Bite Kit is a complete, compact kit for the treatment of snake bite using the constrictor/suction method. Kit includes detailed instructions, three pliable sucti2on cups, easy to ... swab. Measures only 2-1/4" (5.7cm) in length, weighs only 1 oz. (28g). Snake bite kit weighs 0.13 pounds SNAKE BITE Emergency Procedures: NOTE: Venom from a poisonous snake bite travels through the lymph system. Motion will speed the flow.
There are several places that sell it, I bought mine from:
MRE, colloidal silver, water filter, survival gear

I get my Detox foot patches online, you can google it or try Ebay.

The extraction process does not hurt except there was about two times very large and it was because it was there not because it came out. It is more painful when I do not get it out and sometimes it is hard to see the exact spot. I do not have a microscope, but, I do have a magnifying glass.
Last edited by Dove; August 18th, 2009 at 05:09 PM.

What does everyone call these?

Originally Posted by posey

I never had lesions; yet. However, I just came across this article and thought I'd share it here for those who do have lesions. I think it may be something I'd try if I had lesions.

Article:

If you have lesions that contain wormlike parasites - try this.

Beware of your face because it might leave a huge bruise on some areas like cheekbones so don't use on face until you have a few days that its ok to look bruised. The rest of your skin tolerates it better.

Go to Big 5 or other store that supplies campers and get a snake venom extractor for about $20. Its a little suction device with a small cup that you put on your skin and it sucks out poisons. It didn't exactly suck out the parasite whole but it seemed to kill the top ones and the next day they were more easily removed dead. I had some bleeding which I was good with because I don't think they are ever completely out unless the lesion bleeds a lot. I was pretty stunned at what came out of some of them.

It worked even better if I sealed them afterwards with either liquid bandage or tape. I just use the tape end of a bandaid and tape it shut. They need to breathe so they suffocate. The problem is there are more deep underneath that are not affected and I think the extractor brings them more to the surface where they can then be killed.

Its kind of scary to use - its some serious suction but it works !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, try to find your original lesion area and work on suctioning that out. I think when the original spot dies a lot of other areas die with it.

A brave thing to try on your lesions that really helps - Morgellons Support Network

[posey]

I didn't know this was posted already or I would not have posted it.

The foot patches I believe are a scam. Dr. Dean Adell explained this on his radio program how and why the patches turn the nasty color.

Now, there is no so called God label here because he is an atheist.

Please don't misunderstand me TCM, I know there are vipers out there who try to use God's name to validate their credibility and someday they will pay for it.

I was not trying to push anything here. I just found this article and thought it might be helpful to someone.

If it comes to mind to add God bless in my posts, it is because I feel of myself as being a friend here to many friends. I hope God will bless and care for all of us. God knows we need him. For those who do not believe in God, well they can just bypass that part of my post. There are things in others posts I may bypass but it doesn't bother me.

When I turned 50 years old, I thought about all the arguing which had gone on in my life. Sometimes it would be 10 years before my parents, sisters and brothers would speak to each other. A terrible waste of time and love.

So, I made up my mind that being 50 yrs. old I had maybe 20 years [30 at the most] to live and I would not argue with anyone ever again. I have always thought that people are a gift from God. I love people. It is why I worked in Customer Service for over 30 years. I loved to help people. Sure, we are all different. But wouldn't it be a dull world if it were filled with duplicates of ourselves?

So, with that said, TCM I hope we can be friends. I have always thought MDR had such great integrity. I have been here awhile and would never try to deceive my friends. I know too well as we all do, the suffering and darn near torture this disease puts one through. It is not something to be taken lightly or played with with people's emotions and/or pocket books.

posey

[tcmgpt13]

Posey, I posted this information to share information of one MDR member's successful report of a snake venom kit. It backs up the information you posted from another website. So now we have two reports of people who have done this and felt that it helped with their lesions. Although both are only anecdotal reports at least this is not something which is prohibitively expensive to try. It may or may not help everyone with M lesions, but at least with two affirmative reports people with lesions can decide if they would like to try this.

Originally Posted by posey

I didn't know this was posted already or I would not have posted it.

[posey]

Cool, thank you TCM!! I appreciate your explaining that. Makes me feel better. At least I did post something which might help those with lesions.

Now, please, please, when you read the addition to that message, take it with the right tone. I am being friendly and not nasty. I am only trying to explain mhyself so that we can be friends, which I want to be.

I don't mind being corrected when I post something which needs to be corrected. I wouldn't want to post false or ignorant info I got from somewhere else.

Again, thank you for telling me what you did. You really did make me feel so much better.

[Baraka Obam]

I think all of us realize or will realize this disease is not a popularity contest.

Our ability to think has been adjusted, some times we are doing battle just to try and get our posts to be understood.

Certainly we are not authors of any kind, I need to get my idea on paper as soon as possible as soon it would fly out the window but maybe our observations will at some time help others to regain something in their life they have lost.

NEVER do I take the time to look for previous posts of others or will I on anything that I find interesting, that is for someone else to do.

You would think the web site by now would warn you of a common topic, then give you the option to post with the older thread or post under another heading.

Yes it is the web sites lack of attention that does not organise our script, LOL.

[tcmgpt13]

Posey, I tend not to take much of what happens on forums personally except when, as in a former thread, it appears that scripture is being thrown at me to make me look like the bad guy. This has happened on this forum to me in the past when I was even called evil for holding unpopular positions here. When people use religion in this way it always grates on me as it is up to God to judge what is in our hearts. I do think those who use religion to sell are breaking the commandment to not use the name of the Lord in vain. We have seen a lot of that here too. Anyway, since you are now explaining you did not mean it that way in that thread, yes, please, let's forget about it. Life is way too short.

Dr. Adell is not someone with whom I am very impressed though, as far as his discussions of alternative medicine and sometimes even conventional medicine. He seems to be a very conventional MD and probably would deny M symptoms if he brought the subject up at all. Somehow I think he would never raise the subject of M, since conventional medicine denies our symptoms are real. It figures, given his views on anything outside the narrow box of conventional medicine, that it would be difficult for him to believe in the reality of M, much less the eternal God he cannot see.

I thought you might like to read this post (the whole thread is interesting as well) I made which discusses the bamboo vinegar used in really good foot detox pads. I doubt those which used to be sold in the pharmacies (maybe they still are) are that good too. As with anything I believe that there are good foot detox pads and those which are made with cheap herbs and cheap vinegar, maybe not even using the bamboo vinegar discussed here. Having studied TCM and acupunture theory to some extent I can see how these could work with the body. After all herbalists in the west often suggest using raw garlic on the feet overnight as a way to cure colds and fevers (Dr. Christopher for one). I have never tried that, but I am using this as an example that treating the soles of the feet can have a profound effect on the body:

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

These foot detox pads contain bamboo vinegar and can help the body a great deal. It is reasonable to expect these pads would be black in color before use as the vinegar itself is made from carbonized bamboo. Here is some information about this vinegar from another site. Personally I feel the tests that Pat and her friends report are sufficient evidence to show a positive effect on the the body:

What is bamboo vinegar? :

"Bamboo vinegar contains over 200 ingredients (80 - 90% of which is water); all are of a natural composition, and safe for use on humans. It has a disinfectant effect in sterilizing the skin; the ester content can easy permeate and bring nutriment to the deep tissues. The acetic acid contained in bamboo vinegar will soften the skin cuticle and has a wonderful effect for skin care relieving dermatitis, itch, athlete's foot etc.

Bamboo vinegar is a by-product of bamboo carbonization. Herbal properties include the powerful ability to assist in the discharge of unnecessary waste matter and toxins from the human body. Bamboo vinegar has also been used in health food drinks, cosmetics, medicines, and horticultural products.

In Japanese bamboo vinegar is also known as chikusaku, liquid bamboo vinegar is also known as chikusakueki, and the bamboo vinegar powder is called chikusakubum. Bamboo vinegar is derived from the smoke of carbonized bamboo, has a special tart flavor and smoky smell. It is widely believed the Sumiyaki (one who makes the bamboo vinegar) has no disease, due to its effectiveness in disinfecting and sterilization. Recently bamboo vinegar has drawn the attention of medical researches for the treatment of dermatitis, diabetes and other human maladies."

I would like to add that the yellow color these pads take on after use is most likely coming from the detoxification of the Spleen/Pancreas areas which I believe are areas of the body in which Morgellons patients have some weakness. Organ systems in TCM are assigned colors and the spleen/pancreas in TCM is yellow. The further darkening of the pads with black would show this is also have some good effect on the Kidney system as the color assigned to the Kidney system is black. In TCM Kidney point one is located on the bottom of the foot. It will be interesting to hear if anyone reports a greenish color as that would be the Liver system, which I believe is also heavily involved with Morgellons symptoms, at least for some.

Be prepared to be startled!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by posey

Cool, thank you TCM!! I appreciate your explaining that. Makes me feel better. At least I did post something which might help those with lesions.

Now, please, please, when you read the addition to that message, take it with the right tone. I am being friendly and not nasty. I am only trying to explain mhyself so that we can be friends, which I want to be.

I don't mind being corrected when I post something which needs to be corrected. I wouldn't want to post false or ignorant info I got from somewhere else.

Again, thank you for telling me what tou did. You really did make me feel so muvh better.

[posey]

Thanks TCM, I will check all that out and I only skimmed your post as I'm just on a break so I will finish that too.

Today is my DEEP CLEANING DRYER day though so I may not get to it 'till tomorrow.

I always wipe my dryer out after my clothes but after my husband does his wash I have to really do a good job. He has more crap come off his clothes. This is why I have a suspicion he has it, however, it may not have started in the movement stage though.

I think, when a person has M, their eyes get trained to know just what it is they're looking at. I sure can tell anyway. Someone on this forum said some of the fibers had shape like small cobras and I think that is really true. They do look like tiny cobras. Now I have a way to describe them.

I notice that stitiching comes loose fairly easy form new clothing also. ZEven poly and other fabrics. I looked at it closely and all along the length of the thread were real fine fibers sticking out; some long and some short. I think cotton stitching is a big issue in this nightmare as well as cross contamination.

posey

Quote from TCM:
Anyway, since you are now explaining you did not mean it that way in that thread, yes, please, let's forget about it. Life is way too short.

I totally agree!! :-)