Formula 5 or F-5

[posey]

I have some news I would like to share with everyone here who suffers from M or has loved ones and friends who do. I am using what I truly believe is the cure for M.

I have been using it sonce March 3. I have no monetary benefit in telling about it. Io nly want to share my good news with others so hopefully they can get cured also.

I learned of it via a girl I met online, but I do not remember which forum. So far there are 150 ppl using the product. The drawback is it is expensive, $200a pound. However, the distributor of F-5 says it is due to the ingredients. He says M can not survive F-5 and I believe him. I am conversed with him quite a lot and he knows his stuff.

An example in my progress:

I saw my pain Dr. in Dec. of 2010. I started using F-5 March 3. I had next appt. with pain Dr. on March 17th and he was so amazed at the difference in me he told me I looked better than he has seen me look in 2 years and wanted the contact info. of the person who formulated F-5. My Dr and his staff are al firm believers of M and his staff noticec the difference in my face as well. I am now growing my hair back and I can see the natural part and collicks coming back and I have hardly any of the coarse white things growing from my head.

Via a member here I have been in contct with another person who is using it as well as the girl who first told me of it.

I started to post abou this once before but changed my mind for fear of a bad reception. But I have been here long enough that ppl shoud know I am not scamming or looking to make any money. I saved that post and am going to c/p.

[posey]

Formula-5 or F-5

I have been using this formula since March 3rd.


I am going to put in detail how I use this product so it may be long and as well, take me a few “coming backs” to it. But I don’t want to forget anything and I know I will if I try to do this on one sitting. I want to be sure it is known what I am experiencing since I began using F-5.

I do not know what is in the product, however, it does not have an odor, which I think is good. When I received it I also received a “Confidentiality and Non-Disclosure Statement” which I had to sign, date , and return. This is to protect the inventors own interests. I believe he plans one day to go into mass production.

It can be used in 2 ways. You can put a cup in a bath and soak for 20 minutes, or you can mix 1/3 cup in 31 oz. of water in a spray bottle which can be adjusted to a fine mist. I put 1/6 cup in a 16 oz. bottle which is filled with 3/4 of distilled water. I then shake it and mix it real well until I see no more lumps. I wait for any foam or air bubbles to dissapate and then I continue to fill the bottle to the top with distilled water.

Update-

I now use a 6 oz bottle and add 1 TB to it, or I may use only 3 oz. and add 1/2 TB to water. This depends upon if I am going to spray my whole body or just my face head, feet, or any other "hot spots".

The reason I changed sizes is because after 24 hrs. I noticed a smell and cloudiness on F-5. I called the owner of it and he said this could happen but it would not be harmful, but it would probably affect the efficacy of F-5, so he sent out an alert to all users to keep large premixed quantities in fridge.

I truly believe it works. I have the Herxheimer reaction with it and so are the other 2 I know that are using it.

The Herxheimer reaction (also known as Jarisch-Herxheimer or Herx) occurs when large quantities of toxins are released into the body as bacteria (typically spirochetes) die during antibiotic treatment.

Herxheimer reaction, n.pr an increase in the number or degree of symptoms caused by a rapid destruction of antigens, cell particles, and toxins, [more]

I break out with red bumos or rashes that DO clear up soon. My right ankle actually got black and blue after a couple red bumps showed up.

If anyone is seriously interested in using this, please send me a PM or email and I will give you the contact info.

Again, I am only posting this to be helpful to others and because I truly believe this person has formulated the cure for M. He says M can not survive F-5

posey

[tcmgpt13]

Ingredients list? That would be something people should see before purchasing such a hugely expensive product that again might not work for them. What kind of research has been done to make such statements about treating M? If there is no ingredients list, then I would approach this with great skepticism. We have so many say "oh I am not selling anything" that it's quite difficult not to respond with great doubt. There have been many selling overpriced products before.

Anyway, the F-5 is also a fighter plane, so not sure how anyone would locate this product, not without contacting you. There's even a Formula 5 lens. Among other unrelated products. Hmm.

And there is that ever so interesting use of the C word too. Cure. I find that interesting because this illness is so deep within some of us, as far as the illness itself, that it seems pretty impossible just to treat M by using something which effects the skin only.

C word. High and most likely over priced product. No ingredients list. Hmm. Yeah, for me that equals pure skepticism and great doubt.

Originally Posted by posey

Formula-5 or F-5

I have been using this formula since March 3rd.


I am going to put in detail how I use this product so it may be long and as well, take me a few “coming backs” to it. But I don’t want to forget anything and I know I will if I try to do this on one sitting. I want to be sure it is known what I am experiencing since I began using F-5.

I do not know what is in the product, however, it does not have an odor, which I think is good. When I received it I also received a “Confidentiality and Non-Disclosure Statement” which I had to sign, date , and return. This is to protect the inventors own interests. I believe he plans one day to go into mass production.

It can be used in 2 ways. You can put a cup in a bath and soak for 20 minutes, or you can mix 1/3 cup in 31 oz. of water in a spray bottle which can be adjusted to a fine mist. I put 1/6 cup in a 16 oz. bottle which is filled with 3/4 of distilled water. I then shake it and mix it real well until I see no more lumps. I wait for any foam or air bubbles to dissapate and then I continue to fill the bottle to the top with distilled water.

Update-

I now use a 6 oz bottle and add 1 TB to it, or I may use only 3 oz. and add 1/2 TB to water. This depends upon if I am going to spray my whole body or just my face head, feet, or any other "hot spots".

The reason I changed sizes is because after 24 hrs. I noticed a smell and cloudiness on F-5. I called the owner of it and he said this could happen but it would not be harmful, but it would probably affect the efficacy of F-5, so he sent out an alert to all users to keep large premixed quantities in fridge.

I truly believe it works. I have the Herxheimer reaction with it and so are the other 2 I know that are using it.

The Herxheimer reaction (also known as Jarisch-Herxheimer or Herx) occurs when large quantities of toxins are released into the body as bacteria (typically spirochetes) die during antibiotic treatment.

Herxheimer reaction, n.pr an increase in the number or degree of symptoms caused by a rapid destruction of antigens, cell particles, and toxins, [more]

I break out with red bumos or rashes that DO clear up soon. My right ankle actually got black and blue after a couple red bumps showed up.

If anyone is seriously interested in using this, please send me a PM or email and I will give you the contact info.

Again, I am only posting this to be helpful to others and because I truly believe this person has formulated the cure for M. He says M can not survive F-5

posey

[sammy]

Is this item available in the us or just a british thing. sammy

[posey]

tcmgpt13, I totally understand where you are coming from, you speak good valid points, and I respect them.

I too thought the same things you said but for some reason I just had a good gut feeling about it. Call it "desperate to try anything".

The reason the ingredients are not disclosed is because he is going to patent it. Being that it does what I have experienced it doing, I can understand why he has to protect his interests. Once it is fully patented I would think the ingredients would be disclosed because no one can steal and reproduce his product, and maybe at that time others will use it.

I have no idea what is in it, I, just through my experience, believe it is working and that it is the answer to my many prayers. My parts and peaks are all coming back on my head and I hardly have any of the coarse pure white things with no roots on them.

I only posted it here incase anyone wanted to know about it. I wanted to share. I can and will certainly keep posting my progress and the choice is up to whomever.

Sammy, I called producer and I am so sorry but no it can't be sold in the UK. He said the expense of patenting it for the UK is enormous. I believe he is still in the process in US.

When I first started using it on my feet, a mess of pure white stuff came off from the underside of my toes as well as other stuff. I spray my feet, hair (which I quit shaving now), and face every day. I spray my entire body every other day.

At one point when I got the red inflamed bumps on my right ankle, it turned black and blue and you could just see the dried up film. I'm sure along with the dried up film is dry skin and diseased skin also. I have flakes of this all the way up my bottom legs.

The red inflamed bumps and any rash break outs (which are good signs; meaning the culprit is being killed) clear up with out any marks. I

Last week I went through a day of the " getting worse before you get better". I am sure I will have more of this before it is entirely out of my system. The producer told me it took him 3 months to be symptom free.

In my heart, I can not tell you this is the thing for you. It is a decision each person has to make. I made my decision and I believe in it. I can tell be the changes in my appearance.

My prayers to God were to help all sufferers deal with M, and to help anyone researching it by giving them the necessary funds, tools, etc. inorder to find the culprit and then to create either a cure or something to put it into remission. I believe my prayer(s) have been answered.

As I said before, I only put this here to share my experience with this product because if someone here found something that really worked I would want them to share with me.

At first when I used it on my face I would close my eyes and blow dry them. When I woke up at night, my vision was blurred from the slime dissolving where my eyelashes and under lashes belong. In the morning there would be yellow crusted over stuff esp. in the inner corner of my eyes. And the day after my last bad day last week, I looked in the mirror and there was offwhite stuff hanging from the upper eye lids and underneath I could scrape all the crusted stuff off.

No one has to buy it and try it. However, I will keep all informed because I honestly do believe it is working.

If anyone is interested, as I said, please feel free to PM me or email me and I will give you the contact info of the person who developed it. btw, it turns out he lives 2.5 hours from me. Some day soon we are going to mee 1/2 way because I want to meet him and his wife.

posey

[Gator]

I DO thank you for sharing your experience and encourage you to continue if it is helping you.

$200.00 a pound is very expensive. How long does a pound last? How many pounds will it take to get well? how many pounds have you used since March 3? How many pounds did the person use in three months.

Thanks for sharing,
gator

[posey]

Gator, in order to answer most of your questions I will have to call the producer.

I started using it March 3rd, and have a lot left. The type bottle to use is one that is able to mist it on your body, that way you are sure to get your body and it is not wasted by spraying all over. However, I did spray it in each dryer load yesterday.

The reason I had to sign the disclosure statement is so that I would not take his product to a lab to have it analyzed to find out what is in it. Just as a person who is buying his product does not know him, he in turn does not know if someone may be buying it to have it analyzed, steal his product info and benefit from it. I would assume none of this will be an issue when he has it fully patented.

He did not tell me not to tell others. In fact, I can tell others about it. If I got out the copy of the statement, I believe I am not able to share what I purchased, with a third party.

You know, it may be in everyone's best interest to wait a few months just to see how I am doing. I must say, I even feel better that way because I would rather ppl had more faith in it after knowing how I progressed; and I truly have no doubts that I am progressing. It isn't goin to happen overnight bit I can see it happening.

I will get back with answers to the questions you asked. I want to know what I am posting is correct so I need to call him. When I first began using it I was calling him all the time. Due to the cost I did not want to do anything wrong. $200. does not come easy for me either but I wanted to try it. When I heard of it, it all sounded so different from anything else I had ever heard of.

I am on Medicare and hit the "donut hole" quite soon each year. Maybe this is why $200. was easier for me to accept. However, I will say that at least I don't believe this is just an expensive band aid like big pharma would come up with, and then keep bleeding the people who need it. I truly do believe this it it. I believe M can not survive this man's formula.

posey

[tcmgpt13]

I think I can see a lot of potential problems for this person making the "secret" F-5 formula and selling it without revealing ingredients or getting approval from the FDA to eventually list certain ingredients as proprietary ingredienta which are a trade secret (unfortunately there is not adequate testing of skin care and cosmetic ingredients but they do have to be listed unless FDA approval is obtained to omit this type of information as a trade secret). For one thing many people have allergies and it's possible this product could cause a huge allergic skin reaction. Or create skin sensitivities in the person trying it. $200 is a large amount of money to find this out. Trusting someone unknown like this involves a huge leap of faith along with a huge amount of money that it will both be compatible with the skin and actually work at all.

It sounds as if people are being asked to be test subjects and pay for that privilege while doing so.

I also fail to see how this product will treat those of us who have evidence of deep systemic internal involvement with Morgellons, not just surface layer skin symptoms:

I also kind of wonder when I hear that a meeting is being arranged between you and the maker of this product.

I just think this is all extremely peculiar.

Here's just some of the possible problems I see from using a product we know NOTHING about:

"Systemic toxicity

In regard to a topically applied ingredient, systemic toxicity means that it gets into the bloodstream, travels throughout the body and causes damage in organs other than the skin. It does not appear that any of the common over-the-counter skin care products produce systemic toxicity. However, some topical prescriptions drugs, such as hormonal creams, may have systemic toxicity - check with the prescribing physician.

Suppose this product contains nanoparticles?:

Nanoparticles: Nanoparticles are ultra fine particles that possess certain special properties due to their exceedingly small size. This may include the ability to accumulate in the body, possibly even via topical use, and the ability to trigger potentially harmful chemical reactions. As a result, some experts raise concerns about the use of nanoparticles is skin care and cosmetics. Currently, nanoparticles (such as titanium dioxide and zinc oxide nanoparticles) are most commonly used in sunscreens."

Potentially harmful ingredients

"Unlocking the secrets of a skin care product's ingredient list

"Your final step in investigating the ingredient list is to look at all (or at least the most concentrated) ingredients and make sure they are compatible with your skin. Avoid the ones to which you know you are sensitive, allergic or otherwise individually reactive. If you are prone to acne, take particular care to avoid comedogenic ingredients. Also, some ingredients have significant potential to be harmful to the skin and should be avoided even if you do not have particular sensitivity to them. (See our article about potentially harmful ingredients.)"

Unlocking the secrets of a skin care product's ingredient list

Originally Posted by posey

If anyone is interested, as I said, please feel free to PM me or email me and I will give you the contact info of the person who developed it. btw, it turns out he lives 2.5 hours from me. Some day soon we are going to mee 1/2 way because I want to meet him and his wife.

posey

[Baraka Obam]

You go girl, so far so good, maybe it will be the answer for your problems.

Hope it is and if so can be used most likely by many others here.

We all have been test subjects, I know I have, Also it was kind of clear that my test subject days have to slow down.

This disease is tough, that is for sure, the symptoms alone are devestating.

I like others here would wonder about the word cure, maybe it should be left out untill we find this to be sure.

There is also, just a tiny little problems with the patent excuse, here it is, if natural you can NOT patent the mixture, if any other combination of natual and chemicals to make a certain item it can be copied with a very tiny change.

Lets say you were the first person to make a glass cup and you patent it, the process of melting sand was done in a certain way to make all glass tan, then I come along and change your process and make clear glass, my process if different and also able to recieve a patent. I also go a bit further and make a top for that cup and call it a jar.

So this can easily be done with a mixture of chemicals or naturals, I would just make it BETTER a different mixture that takes paint off and cures people of wooping cough. I am now the new and improved patent owner and you are the original.

As for absorbtion from the surface of the skin of ingrediants, it has been proven over time that we can absorb enough through the skin to kill us, so if it is enough to kill us certainly the transfer from the skin into the blood stream of most anything could be enough to heal us.

In fact dosn't the chemical companys (drug companys) use this same method with patches and a very tiny amount of drug on a patch, the drug is even time released.

Still some things will not pass tgrough the flesh in quanity.

Oh well Posey your the test subject now and hopefully you continue to get better and better, best wishes to you.

[posey]

I was so excited about my success and feeling blessed, I wanted to share with friends. I see that was a mistake.

As far as "The Meeting": not being "arranged", is my idea because:

I am so happy and thankful I wanted to meet him and his wife and buy them lunch. No "business" meeting, only friendship and gratitude. This I still plan to do since we happen to live so close.

I posted about it because I only wanted to give anyone the opportunity to decide for themselves.

I hope everyone is having a great day today.

posey

May the grace of Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the renewing power of the Holy Spirit be yours this day!