Does moving help?

[zenmorgie]

I feel like our house is infected....along with my body, of course. But, we were just out of town for the last 8 days and my symptoms were dramatically reduced (not perfect but lots better and I actually felt hopeful for the first time in a long time). Has anyone attempted moving with success or given enough time would things just get severe again? On a side note - we did have our home tested for mold - we had higher than average scores for three types of mold but the company that did the testing said that the levels were still in a satisfactory range.

[Baraka Obam]

Yes, moving, moving your butt out of the house, getting fresh air , breathing deaply and having your blood pump like mad through your veins helps.

You know homes do harbor many harmful items, yes they do, but so does the next place you enclose yourself in.

I suggest that you were out doing things that made you feel better, even a tiny bit of walking helps.

Here now, why don't we try this, take a nice brisk walk twice or 3 times a day and you tell me you did not feel better those days.

If you exercise you are going to feel better, thats a given.

Modern people have this funny feeling if anything takes time or is just a tiny bit uncomfortable its bad.

Well I am here to tell you when I was swimming 1/2 mile everyday, running, riding bicycle, walking and lifting weights. I felt wonderful all of my symptoms went away and people actually said I was getting taller, LOL, muscles confuse people.

So really, yes, sitting around in your house would be deadly, just as sitting around in anyones house watching the boob tube, eating a big greasy meal, snaking on junk food, sweets are really junk food ladies, and not moving a inch except to hit a button on the remote, yup deadly.

If you live in my area, I will help anyone get up and exercise in a wonderful nature park setting, nothing better.

One of the biggest problems getting started, once started you will not want to stop, but you can fall back into lazy, that is easy.

Go and do some hard walking and tell me I am not right, and I do not mean that slought like movement, get a mp3 player have it full of your favorite music and get with it, do not make any pain noises either, they can be misconstrewed as sexual, LOL, and you do not need that happening while you have headphones on, you know people tend to get louder.

Then again people only make those stupid pain noises when others are listening, (me too, I can do a good pity me please sound track,LOL ), and it seems to be catching, if one does it more will follow and then try to show by their noise that they are more injured, WOW that is the most impressive pain noise I have ever heard, you are the king/queen of pain sound, LOL.

I hope nobody nobody here thinks their pain noises mean more than the other peoples pain noises, that would just be wrong.

[janedoe]

barak, SOME of us do exersice by cleaning the toxic house! if you dont think thats exercise, then i dont know what to tell you...between peelig wallpaper, repainting walls, taking everything out of every cabnet,disinfecting shelfs and items, all just to keep down the day to day dust that should not be this bad belive me, its more than just housework, its borderline renovations.
i think maybe its mold here, when i moved here, i think this house was just so toxic with so many things they hit me all at once, im elimnating them one by one as the problem.. problem with that, i cant replace a roof or insulation by myself, but i figure a clean house is never a bad thing.i have seen mold or some kind of weird nasty looking mess in the rafters, not to mention the yellow spots that fall on my car inside the garage every night.
yeah, im willing to bet anything that this house caused my morgys, and im half ready to leave, but my dads 85 not getting younger or smarter, so here i stay... i want to move i have no doubt this is the problem, when i stayed someplace else, i got better too.. it cant be coincidence that someone else thinks this too

[spotted dog]

Hi... I moved to this flat i'm in now 10yrs ago, it was only 4 yrs old. There was mould in my old house which I got rid of with bleach & emulsioning.


I also decorated this place although very clean, I think this rotton disease is in us & has just got to work its way out, I will have had it 20 in June, I still can't believe what it does to us, its the most frightening illness I've ever been through.

I agree with BO that getting out is good for you, the trouble is most of us want to hide away in embarrassment.

I look at dirty tramps in the west end of London sometimes & wonder why they are'nt covered in sores, I change sheets every couple of days, hoover & dust but don't recover. I feel like a waste of space at times, but feel sorrier for the young people that have it, it truly ruins your life, my friends don't come near me now, although no-ones ever caught it from me, they have proberbly read about it on web, I don't blame them. Spots

[sojii]

I moved out of a 60 year old house with carpeting into an apartment that only has carpeting in the bedroom. I still have some symptoms but not nearly as bad as they were a year ago. If you can move, I'd recommend it.

Wish it were as easy to change workplaces. It's there, too.

[Baraka Obam]

Jane, if you call exercising in a house that has mold in it exercising, I guess you would call swimming in the sewer swimming.

Can you not understand, I do not believe you can, what just a brisk walk will do for you. I know you do not know as you compared cleaning to exercise.

It has been my experience that when your scrubbing your using CHEMICALS Jane dear, or do you clean with filtered water.

There is another bonanza here for you, when your scrubbing or doing such things that bring you into uncomfortable mode you will tend to HOLD your breath or shallow breath. Yes you do not have the free and easy breathing that walking will give to you.

Jane, try it, walk, see how your breathing gets deeper your mood will change and if you work it out in the morning and do not lay around the house all day, guess what, you will feel better.

For those of you that look so bad you do not want to be seen, walk at night with your dog with a hoody on. Hell, just walk with a hoody on and a gangster walk, LOL,

If you do not feel safe walking at all with your hoody and gangster walk, while walking the dog, then get a bicycle, bicycles are fun if you keep the tires inflated and find one comfortable to you.

Jane I have done more work in a year then most will do in ten, cleaning, fixing, restoring homes one board at a time, as the county would not let me waste the place and rebuild. I have had to gut 60 years of filth from these things, that was not my idea of exercise, but I was active.

It was kinda like your cleaning only alot worse, asbestos, bug and vermin crap and urine, people filth, sewer restoration, chemicals, paint, cutting concrete board, drywall, cutting and handling pressure treated wood that causes cancer and organ damage, you name it, I did it.

Did I consider this exercise, I do not imagine that in the least.

Once again everyone get out of the house, exercise you will feel better, if you don't uncle Baraka will come to a Pick Quick Store near you and buy you, any 10 of your favorite greasy, salty spicy, or sweet junk food, that should return you to the comfort zone you are used to.

Jane you say your a powerful woman, well, why don't you use some of your mental power to shed some extra pounds, can you, its harder for me then it used to be thats for sure but I can do it.

When I was in China, no car, nothing to do unless I made it happen, I walked everywhere, climbed stairs like a mad man, lived on the fifth floor and did not use elevator. The was no refrigerator in my room, if I wanted to eat it was time to go get the chow. Yup my body looked good, my health was good.

My house is no less or more toxic then the normal American home that sits on the ground, most likely there is radon gas, plague of sorts growing in the air conditioner, filthy mold and fungus in the air ducts, I have a power station with the huge wires right across the street and a super duper electric power station less than one block from my home, one mile away there is a waste station that burns all the waste in the county under the guise that they get some free power out of it, oh yeah, BS. Everywhere is nasty my friends, so when your done cleaning your place, (if you have the time) would one of you that likes to clean come to my home and clean it.

Your time better spent is on choice of foods, food preparation, learn to use spice and herbs, eliminating garbage food filth from your diet, choosing cookware that does not poison you with one metal or another, use glass ware to cook. Juice and blenderize your vegetables and fruit, eat grain, make sure your colon gets everything it needs to make you well.

I guarantee you will feel better if you stop cleaning like manic idiots and put that time where it belongs, food, water and exercise.

If you can not break your habits of smoking, drinking, drugs, junk food, laying around like people waiting to die, well, get your handicapped sticker now, avoid the rush.



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[janedoe]

barak, since you dont know me personaly, i wont bark at you as if you do.. what makes you think thats all i do? you have no clue, what did you yoursekf just discover exersice or something ? so now its time to preach? i seem to have pictured you in a filthy house and you were online here so much theres no way YOU did anything other than sit on your rusty dusty typing with your delusions of grandure..always the expert, right? SINCE YOUR SO SMART, YOU TELL ME WHY MY BLOOD TESTS, MY BIOPSYS MY CULTURES ARE ALL NEGATIVE, BUT IVE GOT SWELLING IN MY NECK AND THROAT? wanna tell me why, after i clean, its still filthy?
wanna tell me all the health problems YOU used to claim to have? did you suddenly get better? instead of taking pictures of the crap you have pulled out of your skin with your microscope, NOW your out walking? well thats good..
is everything your saying now as honest as you stated then?

[janedoe]

you dont knwo what i eat, or drink, you dont know ive lost a few pounds when i stopped eating food mt dad can taint..i am powerfull, im here arent i? anybody else would be dead.. not me.. you really have no clue whats going on with me at this house, i havent said a lot of whats really going on here...ive only said bits and pieces.. but it is what it is... im too strong for my own damn good, i wish i wasnt.. next project i have to do is clean out the fiberglass insulation in the attic.. BY MYSELF..... you think thats not working?
pic of the shop, ( second garage) the attic, an the hot water heater I JUST RELACED for the hot tub. thats the old one. my dad said nothing was wrong with..

[Baraka Obam]

Then what your trying to tell me Jane is, exercise outside your home is not good for you.

You are stuck inside your home forever, and it will never be clean.

I am wrong about exercise?

No other old homes in America look like yours, actually it is the new homes that seem way more toxic and I do have a gas hot water heater that is still hooked up to my last house in need of repair and it needs everything.

It is better to spend all your time cleaning than eating and preparing the correct foods is what your saying and my thinking is you should make sure what goes in the entrance hole is as best the fuel you can find.

I am sure this is not personnel, the only personnel thing I said to you, because I saw your picture and you are a grand size female, big boned, is loose a few pounds and you will feel better.

You did post your picture remember.

The eating of sweets, and garbage is a American pastime introduced by people that know how trends go, it is a killer, if you do this, by far you are not the only one.

You are not the only one sick here with undiagnosed problems, this really is not about you or me, its about us.

Get out and do some walking Jane, make sure you practice deep slow breathing as you do it, force yourself to find the best methods, do not get on the nervous eating ship, it never stops.

Replace I need food with I need a glass of filtered water.

I am not the man on the mountain Jane, no I am not, but I have a very good IQ and I lust for knowledge, not all knowledge mind you, but knowledge in my interests.

My interests have been very wide all my life, watching this disease from the time I got it until now, being interested in the raise of incident of old disease, especially if these disease affect the newborn, the skin of everyone I met everyday since the inception of my issues.

None of you can imagine the amount of attention I have given this disease, I knew this time had to come, I am not alone in this anymore and I do have alot of good advice and theory's,

you can take them or leave them, we do live in a so called free country and I am not the government.

Get out tonight and take a nice forcefull walk Jane, imagine yourself coming to my house to help me in my thinking.

Jane what you have said here is pretty much what everyone has said here, your just starting to catch on that they were not all idiots, doctors do not cure this yet, they do not even believe it exists.

Jane get a test to find what nutrients your lacking in, get a allergy panel.

especially if you do not eat right, keep your eye on thyroid, diabeties and blood pressure changes, first it will go low, then it will go high.

Thats about all Jane, except that, you are changing, changing for the better in attitude, its a good thing. I have noticed it, don't know if others have.

This disease is like nothing any of you people have faced before, it will change you,it certainly has changed me.

My imformation is good, time has honed the ideas I spout, these are not instant ideas but ideas formed over 38 years thinking and watching everyday, knowing some day there would be a pile of us not just me.

Do the best you can to heal, that is all I do, so far so good...............and bad.

[janedoe]

Originally Posted by Baraka Obam

Then what your trying to tell me Jane is, exercise outside your home is not good for yo

I am sure this is not personnel, the only personnel thing I said to you, because I saw your picture and you are a grand size female, big boned, is loose a few pounds and you will feel better.

You did post your picture remember.

Replace I need food with I need a glass of filtered water.
None of you can imagine the amount of attention I have given this disease, I knew this time had to come, I am not alone in this anymore and I do have alot of good advice and theory's,





This disease is like nothing any of you people have faced before, it will change you,it certainly has changed me.

My imformation is good, time has honed the ideas I spout, these are not instant ideas but ideas formed over 38 years thinking and watching everyday, knowing some day there would be a pile of us not just me.

Do the best you can to heal, that is all I do, so far so good...............and bad.

first off, lets see your pic. id love to see the pigsty you live in.
second, i may be big, but im a big girl that snap your neck with little effort.
you said 'you people' as if your not part of us?
your info may be good for someone that has had problems for 38 years, thats YOUR fault if you didnt take care of yourself, what problems you have arent the same exact ones i have..
and as far as filtered water, we have a water softner and a reverse osmosis.. that need the filters changed and my dad refuses to allow that. so i drink gatorade..
one last point, i used to weight 120 pounds, when i did, i was stalked by all kinds of perverts, i was raped by my exhusband and after i put on some weight, i got into collections and security / bodyguard work.. you HAVE to have some weight behind your punch if you want it to be effective! i have no problem with my weight,id like to lose a few pounds, sure, but again, the pics you saw were ME SWOLLEN STUPID!! im not that fat, ive been having problems with swelling...duh!!
soo now barak, POST YOUR PIC...