Dewormer

[posey]

One of my Drs has given me a script for a dewormer. There was a post here with a link to an article whom I can't remember by whom, but I think maybe Cindy Casey. Anyway, I faxed it to him, we talked about it and decided to let him do more research on dewormers.

He mailed me the script and I left the script at the drugstore so when I get it back I will let you know the name. You take a pill and then take another in 2 weeks. He said it was a dewormer which covered the largest spectrum.

posey

[scabdraggr]

This sounds like mebendazole,which is what my dr. prescribed.It has little to no effect upon the tiny,flat,clear,worms that I could plainly seen on the outside of my feces.Ivermectin1.87% with praziquantel14% in a paste form for horses taken 2gms. 4 hrs. apart for the first day,then 2gms. each day for three days did rid myself of them and many other things that were rather strange to see and think that this was inside me.I try to always get a pic or two for future reference.If anyone wishes to see any of these for whatever reason,let me know and I will put them up.

[KiraErikson]

I also use the horse paste with Ivermectin to treat my morgellons. I used to try eating the awful stuff. Now I just use the horse paste tube to inject the amount vaginally. Works well and not messy.

[scabdraggr]

That is great info, assuming that you are serious and not joking.Several ladies have brought their concerns to me about the presence of fibers and fiber masses within the vagina.The samples were consistent with what is present in the semen of male subjects.The ones from men have the gray goo present within the fiber mass and a pic is available.How did you come up with this idea to use the paste vaginally.I have been trying to come up with some way to rid females of this terrible dilemma that the health dept. is calling recurring Trick.You, in my mind have just helped many female sufferers overcome a horrible problem.Now,what to do for the men that have this present in their sperm and urine.Many men also have prostrate discomfort that is very disturbing for the man with crawling and biting within the prostrate gland.It is horrible enough to be afflicted with ugly pus running lesions,but throw in the fact that this dilemma is sexually transmitted sure does make for low self esteem.In severe cases for men the male reproductive fluid actually dries up and a thick jelly like substance,that is clear to slightly milky is what remains and often expels itself without the knowledge or desire of the person.This same jelly like substance which at times is involuntarialy expelled,can be present with females.I have seen this substance in stool specimens and in sputum from the throat.

[fritolay66]

It is horrible enough to be afflicted with ugly pus running lesions,but throw in the fact that this dilemma is sexually transmitted sure does make for low self esteem.

Ugly pus? That is not something I have heard from most Morgellons sufferers I have ever talked to or read about. If your lesions are pyogenic, then a professional culture may be a consideration for you.

Fact? I see no fact in that Morgellons is sexually transmitted, although there are many contentions that it could be. Maybe and fact being two different entities.

The samples were consistent with what is present in the semen of male subjects.

Just how many "male" samples have been brought to you personally, and why would they of been brought to you in the first place? or are you referring to Carnicom? Or perhaps someone in the know?

I have been trying to come up with some way to rid females of this terrible dilemma that the health dept. is calling recurring Trick

What is Trick? Do you mean Trich? And if it is recurring, then one must ask why? Is it because it is resistent or because the immune system is unable to assist in the eradication? What happens if it is both? And so on.....

Frito

[scabdraggr]

The biofilm was what I referred to as pus.My lesions were so wet that the fluid coming from them ruined my sheets that were new.This biofilm is different from the clear to milky stiff jelly like substance that comes out from the throat,the penis,and in a bowel movement after taking the dewormer for a few days.I dried some out and it reflected the crystal like things that can be seen if the Bm is strained and allowed to settle.I have a pic to match any observation.I will make an album to show the wet lesions,the shiny flakes,and the jelly.I realize that I'm entitled to my own opinion,not my own facts.I will not make a statement that I cannot back up.I have a pic of the crystal moving inside a "nest" or whatever it is that is present.A black fiber seems to be present at the same time.I will attempt to clarify any statements that are unclear to anyone.

[Robin]

Hello,
I would be more than willing to try this also but which Dewormer will work on skin as well as internally? i know it would work if taken long enough!
Thank you
Robin

[junknira]

absolutely agree..there is no money in healthy folks... interesting to me that fibromyalgia meds came out so quickly after they (finally) agreed it is a real issue..hmmm. tho i wont take that ****e w/all the side effects..blech.

best to keep reading, researching, trying and posting..rather one of us found the cure than big pharma!

[scabdraggr]

What side effects are you concerned about from Ivermectin?Now praziquantel is a different story as It can have some nasty side effects.Yet none of them compare to what the antigens are doing to us,which in my opinion is worse than any what any dewormer can do.You apparently aren't at the stage where the suffering is unbearable and suicide seems like a great alternative.

[fritolay66]

Originally Posted by scabdraggr

What side effects are you concerned about from Ivermectin?Now praziquantel is a different story as It can have some nasty side effects.Yet none of them compare to what the antigens are doing to us,which in my opinion is worse than any what any dewormer can do.You apparently aren't at the stage where the suffering is unbearable and suicide seems like a great alternative.

Actually, many of us have or are suffering/suffered where the consideration of suicide and/or death would of been much preferrable to the incredible physical and mental sufferering in which the worst stages of this horrific disease can bring us. To fling that about so blatantly might lead others to believe you are callous in your disregard for other sufferers here on this forum. I don't believe this to be true of you and so may I caution you in flinging this type of accusational type retort so easily.

That being said, I am now confused on your stance of Ivermectin. You have previously mentioned taking it due to parasites. Of which no one is arguing whether they are or are not present in this disease. Clearly some have them and some don't. I experienced them in stages, as well as others here, but I cannot speak for the whole of it.

You now mention antigens. So in referring to antigens, are you then now considering the affect of Ivermectin on cytokines, which can result from antigens? Or is your stance still centered around parasites? Or are you now referring to the antigens produced from parasites and then resulting in cytokines? May I request some clarification please.

Ivermectin has a direct result of inhibitory affects on the LPS cytokines. LPS is generated from many differing sources and does include parasites.

And there is nothing on this earth that does not include side effects. I have previously posted on Ivermectin's side effects in that certain ataxia's are most definately associated with it's use in both animals and humans. I personally theorize this is due to either in increased elevation of neurotransmitters or a decreased level. Certainly, an increased level of neurotransmitters with the subsequent administration of Ivermectin, could very well lead to an ataxia type of state, as well as already decreased levels as well.

Ivermectin also affects the NO and PG-E2's. Of which the prostoglandins are also associated with the NFKappaB induction of the inflammation cycle which can also be induced by toxins affecting the leptin receptors of the hypothalmus of which then decreases MSH, and then results in cytokines, of which the NFKappaB pathway is induced.

In my own theory based on my reactions to Ivermectin and others, I believe some of the effects of Ivermectin I suffered was due to elevation of some neurotransmitters and the depression of others. And certainly, the enzyme catalysts, such as the MTR, MTHFR, and et al. would also be a factor. Which is also consistent to what I am finding in the methylation cycle and the interuption of the Krebb's cycle as a whole.

I guess I ask for clarification in my honest attempt to understand your stance.

Frito