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Old October 9th, 2010, 06:43 AM
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Default Honeybee Killer Found And it Sounds Very Morgish to Me

Since 2006, 20 to 40 percent of the bee colonies in the United States alone have suffered “colony collapse.” Suspected culprits ranged from pesticides to genetically modified food.
Now, a unique partnership — of military scientists and entomologists — appears to have achieved a major breakthrough: identifying a new suspect, or two.
A fungus tag-teaming with a virus have apparently interacted to cause the problem, according to a paper by Army scientists in Maryland and bee experts in Montana in the online science journal PLoS One.
Exactly how that combination kills bees remains uncertain, the scientists said — a subject for the next round of research. But there are solid clues: both the virus and the fungus proliferate in cool, damp weather, and both do their dirty work in the bee gut, suggesting that insect nutrition is somehow compromised

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/07/science/07bees.html

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Old October 9th, 2010, 09:31 AM
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Agree, Carla, that it sounds very Morgish...


They have ID'd the fungus Nosema Ceranae, from ASIA along with the virus - DNA virus, IIV6 that are at issue re: the cause of Colony Collapse.


Interesting about the IIV-6 DNA virus- the common hosts are mostly crickets and moths, although they were doing research (Florida and elsewhere) - injecting the DNA IIv-6 virus into flies as well...

DNA polymerase 037L - Invertebrate iridescent virus 6 (IIV-6)

Invertebrate iridescent virus 6 (IIV-6) (Chilo iridescent virus) [Complete proteome]

Fair use excerpt:

Virus host/s


Acheta domesticus (House cricket) [TaxID: 6997]
Gryllus bimaculatus (Two-spotted cricket) [TaxID: 6999]
Spodoptera frugiperda (Fall armyworm) [TaxID: 7108] ((order of Lepidoptera -moth))
Gryllus campestris [TaxID: 58607] ((field cricket))
Chilo suppressalis (striped riceborer) [TaxID: 168631]


Bold- by me


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Pic of the Asiatic rice borer 'Chilo suppressalis' at link below

Asiatic rice borer, Chilo suppressalis (Lepidoptera: Crambidae)


Seems like this moth could be the original source of the problem ?


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Old October 9th, 2010, 10:26 AM
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ah great post Carla ........

Morgish 100%
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Old October 9th, 2010, 07:53 PM
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Great find Carla. Thanks for sharing. Sounds like Morgs to me.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if they cared as much about we humans.

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Old October 10th, 2010, 08:16 AM
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Default Clear Amber Fluid Found in Fish Infected with Iridoviruses

It is interesting how all our discussion, in various ways, are connecting viruses and bacteria which could be a part of the picture of Morgellons. Reading here about iridoviruses reminded me of an earlier thread on the forum which discussed this too. Since I became so ill after eating fish I found it intriguing that this particular virus has been found in populations of farmed grouper. There are some other references about this subject to be found in this linked thread which may be of interest to others in this current discussion:

Virus, Fish and Morgellons?

Here's something which has been found as far as the fluid found in fish who have iridoviruses which infect them:

"Clinical signs associated with the presence of the iridovirus have included darkening of body coloration and lethargy. Sick gouramis often stop eating and the abdomen may be distended. Internally, an enlarged spleen has been the most notable abnormality. The intestine may be reddened, and a clear amber fluid may be present in the body cavity."

What are Iridoviruses?
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Old October 10th, 2010, 04:00 PM
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Well, anyway you look at this it sounds Morgish, Carla.
Anyway you look at it, pesticides, gmo, fungi & viruses, cell phone towers, we are in for trouble.
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Bee Mystery Unsolved? Lead Investigator Had Connections to Pesticide Maker
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Bee Mystery Unsolved? Lead Investigator Had Connections to Pesticide Maker -- Daily Intel

Yesterday's New York Times featured a heartwarming ending to the years-long murder mystery of what was causing Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) among honeybees. Experts suspected pesticides or genetically modified foods, but the article reported that the University of Montana's Bee Alert Team, working alongside the Army, found the cause: the combined effects of a virus and fungus. Data sharing! Chance discoveries! Honeybees live on to sting another day! But according to Fortune, there were a couple of details left out of the front-page story. The team's lead investigator, Dr. Jerry Bromenshenk, may have previously dropped out of testifying in a class-action lawsuit after he received a significant research grant from the pharmaceutical giant Bayer. For years, beekeepers have tried to pursue legal action against Bayer Crop Science over their pesticides, in particular a type of neurotoxin that gets rids of insects by attacking their nervous systems. The beekeepers allege that the pesticides disoriented and killed their hives. One of the markers of CCD is a bee's tendency to fly off in a random direction before it dies.

Fortune contributor Katherine Eban came across this information working on a story about the pesticides connection for Portfolio, but the magazine folded before she finished her reporting. Print media's poison cup runneth over! Eban says that during the course of her research, Bromenshenk also acknowledged that his company, Bee Alert Technology, would benefit more if CCD was caused by a disease, not pesticides, since the company is developing handheld acoustic scanners to detect bee ailments. Eban cites Bayer's funding for the grant as the reason Bromenshenk dropped out as an expert witness in the class-action lawsuit against Bayer. But Bromenshenk denies that Bayer was a factor in either dropping out or the current study.

Bromenshenk defends the [new] study and emphasized that it did not examine the impact of pesticides. "It wasn't on the table because others are funded to do that," he says, noting that no Bayer funds were used on the new study. Bromenshenk vociferously denies that receiving funding from Bayer (to study bee pollination of onions) had anything to do with his decision to withdraw from the plaintiff's side in the litigation against Bayer. "We got no money from Bayer," he says. "We did no work for Bayer; Bayer was sending us warning letters by lawyers."


When Eban contacted Times reporter Kirk Johnson, he told Eban that Bromenshenk never mentioned the connection, adding that he "tried to convey that caution in my story." He also noted that Bromenshenk's study never said that pesticides couldn't be the underlying cause of one of the uncertainties that remain, namely how the virus and fungus, which separately aren't fatal, combine to interact. Other scientists conjecture that they might leave the bees' immune systems weakened. In 1999 France banned the neurotoxin Imidacloprid after a third of its honeybees died. The EPA has approved that type of pesticide, called a neonicotinoid. After suing the EPA in 2008, the NRDC is currently shifting through Bayer's studies on neonicontinoids.
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Old October 10th, 2010, 05:21 PM
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hah well done XIB it was about the time ......... 100 years ago NIkola Tesla invented wireless technology, creation of plasma, use of EMF for the purpose of ,..............etc. etc. FBI knicked it............and used it for spreading of "LOVE and SECURITY" all over the world .......................
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Old October 10th, 2010, 10:05 PM
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TCM and XIB both good posts. the fish with yellow fluid is a very good find it shows how close we are to the animals in their affliction. I bet a search on fish and fibrous growths, material may yeild some results. Look at all the warm blooded sea creatures that beach themselves.

I have felt that the red tide explosion is a factor in this, the blooms possibly from so much fecal human matter dumped into the waters of the world.

Oh I forgot red tide kills everything in the water AND they have big LESIONS on their bodies, a google may return some pictures of red tide ulcered fish and mammals.

In fact you can see that beach communitys test for this but lately I have not heard about it.

I have to wonder about the use of chemicals on the oil spill was there another reason for it, this year there was NO red tide, years previous it was getting so bad you could not even breath if you went to the beach, the toxin put out by the bloom actually BURNT your lungs,

Imagine that. It was so bad I wondered how the people that lived on the beach could stand it.

Maybe just maybe that is what the plane spraying CHEM TRAILS is for?????

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