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| I knew the pop that I drink everyday was not good for me, but I did not realize how bad it really was. Because I have Osteo-arthritis, I was aware of the fact that soda pop depleted the bones of calcium per link below: (ladies, note the info on this link re: Boniva and Fosomax- good to know) http://www.douglaslabs.com/pdf/nutri...2811-07%29.pdf The carbonation in soda pop forms calcium carbonate which is also known as Calcite: Carbonatation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Fair use excerpt: Carbonation is a chemical reaction where calcium hydroxide reacts with carbon dioxide and forms insoluble calcium carbonate: end excerpt ( Insoluble per above related to carbonation in soft drinks - means: incapable of being dissolved) Where is Cacite in 'M' ? Calcite was found at Suny in the Morgellons specimens: Thanks to Mark Darrah and Dr Citovsky Morgellons Research at Suny Fair use Excerpt: Image 1: White Fiber – Calcite covered End excerpt Tom Volk's Fungus of the Month for February 1997 Fair use Excerpt: Industrial uses of Aspergillus If we believe all the commercials on television, we could not imagine having a day without a soft drink. One of the main ingredients of many soft drinks is citric acid. But it is far too expensive to isolate the citric acid from citrus fruits. For that reason, almost all of the citric acid in cola drinks is produced by large-scale vat fermentation of Aspergillus niger. end excerpt Ok! Where else can you get a fungus that causes "Black mold" while you destroy your bones and get the 'M' Calcite fibers - all at the same time? ~V~
__________________ "When you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon." Machiavelli Last edited by Venetia; April 30th, 2010 at 11:05 AM. |
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| Funny- that is what I'm drinking right now- Diet Dr Pepper! Added bonus- Phenylkeyonurics ( Phenylalanine) New one- need to look that up tomorrow! ~V~
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| V, I knew about citric acid because I have mold allergies and used to wonder why my mouth would burn when I ate some foods which contained citric acid, especially hard candies. It is difficult to understand why so many foods and drinks contain something to which many are allergic. It cannot be good for anyone to be exposed to this mold, but that is the way of the food industry. Use anything to flavor foods so people will buy more of it. Also deny there is any harm in using potentially harmful additives. ![]() I always thought it was the phosphorus in soda which was so bad for the bones or at least that is what some alternative practitioners wrote about in some of their newsletters. Evidently it is a problem especially if consumed in childhood. Phosphorus is not just found in sodas, but also in some foods. What is really terrible IMO is the fact that none of the drug companies mention that every woman who is experiencing excessive bone loss should be screened to rule out celiac disease which is one of the little known causes of osteoporosis. Though celiac disease not the only cause behind osteoporosis, it is one which is often missed. Never miss a chance to prescribe a drug instead of finding the cause of what is behind bone loss. The link below will bring up a short article which lists major cause of bone loss: PHOSPHORUS IN SODA LINKED TO CALCIUM DEPLETION IN BONES Animal studies demonstrate that phosphorus, a common ingredient in soda, can deplete bones of calcium. And two recent human studies suggest that girls who drink more soda are more prone to broken bones. The industry denies that soda plays a role in bone weakening. Animal studies -- mostly involving rats -- point to clear and consistent bone loss with the use of cola beverages. But as scientists like to point out, humans and rats are not exactly the same. Even so, there's been concern among the research community, public health officials and government agencies over the high phosphorus content in the U.S. diet. Phosphorus -- which occurs naturally in some foods and is used as an additive in many others -- appears to weaken bones by promoting the loss of calcium. With less calcium available, the bones become more porous and prone to fracture. The soft drink industry argues that the phosphoric acid in soda pop contributes only about 2 percent of the phosphorus in the typical U.S. diet, with a 12-ounce can of soda pop averaging about 30 milligrams.The National Academy of Sciences has set 3 grams (or 3,000 milligrams) per day as the tolerable upper limit of phosphous for children ages 1 to 8 years, and 4 grams per day for those 9 years and older. To reach that amount would require drinking at least 100 cans of soda pop per day. But there's growing concern that even a few cans of soda today can be damaging when they are consumed during the peak bone-building years of childhood and adolescence. A 1996 study published in the Journal of Nutrition by the FDA's Office of Special Nutritionals noted that a pattern of high phosphorus/low calcium consumption, common in the American diet, is not "conducive to optimizing peak bone mass in young women." The scientific literature is scant on this topic, and the soft drink industry says the few studies that have been done are flawed. But the studies seem to consistently link soft drink use with the kind of bone weakening that can raise the risk of fractures. Most troubling is that the studies suggest the increased risk of fractures occurs as early as adolescence. A 1994 study of bone fractures in teenage athletes by Grace Wyshak, then a researcher at Harvard's Center for Population Studies, found a strong association between cola beverage consumption and bone fractures in 14-year-old girls. A follow-up study of 468 9th- and 10th-grade girls, also conducted by Wyshak, who is now at the Harvard School of Public Health, concluded that girls who drank cola were about five times more likely to suffer bone fractures than girls who didn't consume soda pop. She also found that girls who drank only non-cola carbonated drinks were three times more likely to develop bone fractures than those who didn't consume soda pop. Exactly how soft drinks may contribute to bone weakening is not yet known. But Pennsylvania State University researcher Leeann Birch has found that soft drinks often displace more nutritious beverages, including milk. And just how much soda are teens -- whose bones are growing at peak levels -- drinking? Shanty Bowman, a researcher at USDA's Agricultural Research Service in Beltsville, finds that Americans 12 to 19 years old consume an average of 503 grams of carbonated beverages each day, the equivalent of about half a quart. About 61 percent of teens report drinking carbonated beverages on any given day, compared with just half who drink milk. Bowman says that only one in every five meets the current milk requirement. It's that combination of increased consumption of soda, decreased consumption of milk and other beverages, and the possible link between phosphorus and bone health that researchers such as Wyshak believe is enough to justify a "national concern and alarm about the health impact of carbonated beverage consumption on teenage girls." Besides, to many researchers, the combination of rising obesity and bone weakening has the potential to synergistically undermine future health. "Adolescents and kids don't think long-term," says Jamie Stang, professor of epidemiology at the University of Minnesota. "But what happens when these soft-drinking people become young or middle-aged adults and they have osteoporosis, sedentary living and obesity?" By that time, switching to water, milk or fruit juice may be too little, too late. PHOSPHORUS IN SODA POP LINKED TO CALCIUM DEPLETION IN BONES Article which lists major causes of bone loss: Cause of Osteopenia : Lists all the major causes of Bone Loss, Osteoporosis, Ost
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| Thanks for the info on PHosphorus Tcm, I agree re: the PHOSPHORUS in soft drinks depleting calcium in bones which is another part of the ATP equation- more on that coming.... The concept I am attempting to ID here is one of how the 'M' fibers may form. In the soft drinks, we have the calcium carbonate (aka Calcite aka Nanobacteria or CaCO3) along with CO2: Carbon Dioxide in Soda Fair use excerpt: The cola in your bottle is pressurized to about two atmospheres of pressure and if you could get ALL of the CO2 out of the cola it would fill a volume about four times the volume of the cola itself. Soft drinks hold more CO2 at low temperatures than at high temperature. end excerpt A look at what CO2 does to Candida Albicans: ![]() Fair use Excerpt: These images show the dramatic change that occurs when the fungal pathogen Candida albicans is grown in low concentrations (left) or high physiological concentrations of carbon dioxide (right). This change in morphology is due to Carbon dioxide stimulation of the enzyme adenyl cyclase end excerpt (( the enzyme adenyl cyclase- key in the ATP/fatigue of 'M' and relates to Pathogenic Candida Albicans, IMO a part of the cycle or process or 'M')) So the CO2 exposed to the Candida Albicans in the fungal form, morphs the C Albicans into the snowy white fiber mass shown above, which look a lot what we see in the atmosphere - AKA the white fibers. More on that later as well.... Concentrating now- on the Calcite or calcium carbonate (CaCo3) from the soft drink as acting as it does in nature along with the CO2: The Chemistry of Carbon Fair use excerpt: When water rich in carbon dioxide flows through limestone formations, part of the limestone dissolves. If the CO2 escapes from this water, or if some of the water evaporates, solid CaCO3 is redeposited. When this happens as water runs across the roof of a cavern, stalactites, which hang from the roof of the cave, are formed. If the water drops before the carbonate reprecipitates, stalagmites, which grow from the floor of the cave, are formed. end excerpt I find that 'M' could be the same process that is happening with the BATS- with the nose fungus. BATS are cave dwellers, exposed to the same process. ![]() The above stalactite is named Soda Straws- ironic.... Fair use excerpt: NPS Cave and Karst Program--Program Details In nature: Water rich in CO2 flows through limestone formations in caves and elsewhere, which dissolves the Calcite/Nanobacteria/CaCO3 in the formation which produces stalactites- stalagmites. In our bodies: The same way that CO2 from various sources to include soft drinks, not only morphs fungal Candida Albicans into the the white fiber form above, it also undoubtedly forms the hardened "stalagmite-like" fibers - in our bodies- perhaps inclusive of the fibers produced by the above process shown- the fibers produced by the CO2 exposed to the C albicans-
__________________ "When you dine with the devil, bring a long spoon." Machiavelli Last edited by Venetia; May 6th, 2010 at 11:39 AM. |
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| Sorry if I was jumping the gun in bringing up phosphorus and bone depletion too early. I love the site which listed possible causes for bone loss, especially some of the diseases which may be involved.
__________________ "Have courage for the great sorrows of life and patience for the small ones; and when you have laboriously accomplished your daily task, go to sleep in peace. God is awake." Victor Hugo, French dramatist, novelist, & poet (1802 - 1885) |
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| Not a problem, TCM. I value your information- always germane. Actually, the phosphorus IS a very important part of the fatigue factor in 'M', but I am struggling to put into as few posts/words/images as possible what I believe to be the fiber-making process going on in the environment as well as in our bodies- and some potential sources (causes) that create the same. In 'M' sufferers: It has to do with the cycle that is caused by the CO2 conversion of C Albicans via the enzyme adenyl cyclase- more on that later.... Back to the BATS for a point: Metro-east's only underground state park closes to save bats - Metro-east news - bnd.com Metro-east's only underground state park closes to save bats Someone has figured out that SOMETHING in the CAVES is causing the BAT-FUNGUS.
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| I was exposed to carbon dioxide for years from a gas stove. I had to light the burner with a match.So there was probably a leak on that burner. I used to get dizzy spells, especially when I did the dishes, which was right next to the stove.In fact I had to go to the ER several times. Because I'm a heavy smoker they said I had COPD from smoking and the dizzy spells were from being anemic, the lesions impetigo. I knew they were not impetigo. My husband thought the dizzy spells were an excuse not to do the dishes.He's fine ![]() |
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| Bee, So sorry you had those problems with the CO2 from your stove and hope you are feeling better? Impetigo- they sure have a variety of tags to hang on this condition, don't they? Wonder if they are going to label the BATS with DOP ? Then again, they didn't bring their match-box specimens along to be examined - just their dead fungus ladened carcasses. This issue is so in our faces- the TRUTH needs to be told and now. Last night I watched the Michael Moore documentary "Capitalism: A Love Story" which has me fired up. Truly a screw-over of major proportions- what is happening to us right now on every level. ~V~
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