Better understanding of morgellons

[lostintime]

I do respect everyone on the site Jonsi. I meant no disrespect to Dove.
I just see too many far out theories about this and get tired of the community of morgellons folks made to look crazy. It does not help and makes it difficult to get real medical help.

Some things need to get cleared up. The fibers you see are crystal like in nature. They are not worms. Some may see them move due to the continuation of crystallization formation. Others might even see light coming from the ends. (This is light refraction) Period, that's it and nothing more.

Now why is the crystalline forming is the big mystery? We could theorize on the cause all day long but if you talk about aliens and government spaying people to tracking devises nobody is going to listen to that.

It was a major set back when this hit the air waves on Art Bell(After Dark) radio show many years ago. Yes it did inform people of the existence of morgellons but no respecting medical team is going to go out on a limb and stake there reputation on a theory based on a late night radio show that talks about aliens, orbs and super naturals.

This is nothing more then an infectious process going on in the body. The body does not like it and is shoving it out the skin to rid itself of this. Look at it like this...If you have a splinter the body works its magic by working it out of the body. It takes a long time and most people just dig it out and remove it. This can wound your skin even more but feels better faster by removing it.

Unfortunately the crystallization process takes place everywhere the blood goes including the brain.
Brain cognition,vision problems and neurological symptoms are not from a skin disease. The CDC recognizes this but unfortunately DOP will stand on this one. (Does not mean this is not a real problem)
Yes it feels like something crawling around but it is the crystallization process you feel.
If medical research can come up with the cause and can stop the process I believe it will take the body a long time to work the excising crystalline from the body or break it down.
Soo hang in there. This is going to take some time.
Good things to do for your self is exercise(Sweat) and drink lots of water.
Take normal vitamins and eat healthy.
Bert had some Morgone stuff made that seams to help the skin from itching(Look up Morgone). It contains some sulfur that is good for many skin problems. I have met Bert and he is suffering like the rest of us but his skin looks pretty good.
Is it a cure? I don't think so but if it keeps me from becoming ugly until this is completely identified great. I am waiting for mine now.

The other thing is if you are having mental problems seek help.
If depressed find a anti-depressant that helps. If you have anxiety get on some anxiety medication. Some are said to suffer Bi polor with this. There is medication for that as well.
Do what you have to do to stay in control and function in life.
Sorry I have not been able to beat the fatigue. Don't have advise there.

This may turn out to be a virus and we need to be prepared to except that.
Live happy and seek others that have the same problem.
If your married use precautions not to infect. If single and suffering alone seek out someone dealing with the same thing. Go out on a date. Hit a movie, go out for coffee to chat or have dinner together.
Being alone and suffering is not good. Have you noticed this is much worse this is when your still and quit. Find a hobby and do something you like and enjoy.
This is communicable so use precautions not to infect others but be truthful as to whats happening to you. This is why it is better to seek out others like you. Most people would not even come close to understanding.

Oh...one more thing. Wright letters to your government. Keep it simple and to the point. DO NOT give them your theories If you have trouble doing this ask a loved one to do it for you.

[chewtoyofthegods]

I suppose that this new thread is really different
from other "theory and speculation" threads.
[It must be..since it's..not in the "theory and speculation" thread.]
Hmm..since it's NOT "theory and speculation" on your part..
it must be demonstrable fact...
[well..maybe not..]

YOUR theory is that it's "just an infectious disease".
[..not very reassuring. there are many weaponized diseases
out there, in addition to the "garden variety" plagues.


If you don't know the source of the "infection", and you keep getting
"reinfected" ..NOTHING will stop it. Not drinking lots of water..eating
healthy [whatever that might be these days] or going out for coffee
and popping antidepressants.

If the source of the "infection" is actually genetically modified foods..
"eathing healthy" just became a part time job.

"If married take precautions not to infect". What would that
be, a body condom? The morg bits are airborne..they are in the dust..that
settles on everything. I am taking their mugshots with the microcams
after every cleaning run. They are always there. The two four legged
creatures that share my space are also fiber infected..no sex involved..
just friends..really.
So much for..precautions, eh?

Even if one is busy wiping and dusting and running
the multiple HEPA air filters ..the living space is a HAZMAT zone.
This is not a "social disease" that can be prevented by "taking precautions".
If people are in a contaminated area..[which for all i know might very well
be most of the planet] they are in danger of "infection".

Brain cognition,vision problems and neurological symptoms are not from a skin disease. The CDC recognizes this but unfortunately DOP will stand on this one.

^^ glad to see that you are so sanguine about the demonstrated
corruption of government agencies...[as well as the "medical establishment"..
AMA for example.]
and if morg folks are being written off as DOP, then it is not even being recognized
as a "skin disease". The morgs are officially.."loons". Just like what the
"gov't" did to the Lyme folks..and the Chronic Fatigue folks before them.
["yuppie flu"]
strategy1: if you DON'T know what it is..dont admit it..just proclaim those
suffering with the new ailment to be "crazy". No one needs to listen to
the complaints of "crazy people". Problem solved!

strategy2: if you DO know what is causing the destruction..and that source
is from powerful entities such as Big Agriculture..or military experiments
running amuck..just proclaim those that are suffering to be crazy.
It's a strategy that has worked before! Powerful, corrupt and bought off
politicians must protect those that have paid them to have their way in
the world. Citizens are sheep...and are expendable. They write millions of
letters and emails..but worry not. "delete key" and the dumpster are your
friends here.

The fibers you see are crystal like in nature. They are not worms. Some may see them move due to the continuation of crystallization formation. Others might even see light coming from the ends. (This is light refraction) Period, that's it and nothing more.

..glad to see you have it all wrapped up. Mystery solved.
You are crystalizing..nothing to be alarmed about.
[and you are worried about the "art bell" explanations?]
No questions about WHY the human body is "crystalizing"?
The body is just going to take a while to clear itself ...
..find a hobby..find something you like to do..think happy
thoughts..

This may turn out to be a virus and we need to be prepared to except that.

like hell.
I am not prepared to roll over and "accept" anything.
The "morg/fiber/"crystal" phenomena..is not of natural causes.
The human body is not designed to "grow" crystals/plastic/cellulose fibers.
I have been ..apparently..deliberately poisoned...or poisoned through
gross neglect/stupidity/arrogance.
The evidence at hand seems to indicate that many millions have
been similarly poisoned; perhaps the victims number in the billions.
There are many possible vectors for this poisoning.
The search is far from over...and those responsible are quite capable
of mounting a vigorous "self defense". They will seek to neutralize
those who would uncover their crime..by any means possible.
Having their victims declared to be "not mentally competent" is only
the "shot across the bow". It may get much worse.

The "gov't" is not going to be "awakened" to this "disease" on the basis
of another few million more letters. The "govt' is well aware of what is going on..which is why there is so much monkey business afoot with the "morgellons
investigation" ["mysterious dermopathy investigation"]. There is a very good
reason why the "multi year investigation" was only funded for 380,000 dollars.
[darlin' we cain't even lease the facilities for that much..]. There is a reason
why there is silence from the CDC..instead of interim reports..There is a reason why the "study" was handed over the the Army Pathology labs.
[..that clank you heard was the "study" going "deep black".

To my "ears"..your "speculation" that the "infections crystalization disease"
is best dealt with by "living well and antidepressants"..while waiting for
medical research efforts from the gov't to come to the rescue..
...is more nutz than any of the "out there" speculations from the "art bell black helicopter brigade".

if you have morg symptoms..don't waste time and effort trying
not to be seen as a crazy person. You have been declared a crazy
person...by "competent medical authorities".

It's about time you came to accept that.
It will be easier for you that way.

Do try the lime jello. It seems to be especially calming.
You can hardly taste the anti psychotic meds at all!

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[lostintime]

I feel your anger. I am there with ya.

Wish you the best Chewtoy

[tcmgpt13]

Lost, have you ever had any testing done for parasites? There are some parasites being diagnosed in Morgellons patients. I was not tested, but some people are. Even so I was given Ivermectin. Bee has found a sympathetic DO who is prescribing albendazole. I was treated for my viral infections too. All of this helps. I have been treating the intestines with herbs to move out what I can. I have moved out a lot of parasites these ways. All of this together has helped my symptoms improve. Dr. Uppal in Tampa found patients who tested for schistosomas and filarial worms.

Although some doctors can be very frustrating, it is never good to take our anger out on others in a violent way. I am truly glad you decided not to do this to someone who was obviously clueless and lacked true compassion.

You are right too, we all need to enjoy life as much as we can. Jonsi is always telling us to listen to music and to dance. It lifts the mood for sure. Add some favorite music to Katinka's For Heart-For Fun thread and share some joy. Most of all forget and do not focus 24/7 on Morgellons.

I agree. We cannot give up, at least not without trying to do our best and to help others make it through this nightmare.

tcm