AMA confirms Morgellons Systemic- origin in gut

[livewell]

Xib

Great thanxs

So the beneficial bacteria you add to the first week mix with the Bentonite Clay & Psyllium sweep?

Appreciate the help & concern Xib, I'm a good listener and I will be careful. I will check out the book too.

Love your name too

livewell

[xiblanque]

Candida Albicans Detox...
after 3rd month if you are still symptomatic then an alternate fungicide is used.... such as grapefruit seed extract, garlic extract or Oxycleanse (not oxyclean)the practice of alternating fungicides every 2-3 months is based on the possibility that the fungus could have developed mutations that are resistant to one type of fungicide....
other observations....
sometimes a slight discoloration on the skin (face, arms,palms and soles...)was observed that was temporary and faded in 2-6 weeks.... (slightly orange from toxins being eliminated from skin)??? This discoloration does not include the eyes nor is seen as generalized skin discoloration and is VERY different from the type of jaundice discoloration seen typical of hepatitis...
ALSO... after 3-4 weeks of the introduction of the 1st fungicide some patients developed RASHES in different parts of the body. the rashes did not look the same on all patients.. some showed PINPOINT RED SPOTS WITH WHITE-ISH SPOTS.... (i found this real interesting...) on the neck and upper chest...others had them on the legs...not all but some of the rashes itched... the researcher's assumption was that the live fungi is trying get away from the GI tract where the active killing is happening and show up in the skin or other parts of the body. OFTEN THE PATIENTS USED FUNGICIDES LIKE CAPROL TOPICALLY AND THE ITCHING WAS RELIEVED...( very interesting!!!!)
Well... I may look like an Oompa Loompa but i will be using Caprol topically now too!
Xib

these observations are empirical and are recommended for further research...
ok..
Xib
apologies for this being so disjointed =/

[Venetia]

Xib,

Thanks again for all the good info-

My next purchase will be the Oxy-Cleanse you mention.

Found a couple links that sell it- looks promising.

~V~

[posey]

I have hesitated to post this because I don't want to be pessimistic and also I don't want to bring people down. This is only my speculation.

I just came from reading a post here at:
Barley (Fungus wash)

called: Barley (Fungus wash) by: zara cybele

The information in that post about all the bogus research on the net only adds to my wondering if this abstract from AMA is only a "pacifying abstract" to give hope to the people who are suffering, and in return hoping that will quiet down the "M" dilemna.

I just can not be sure it is a real find. What about all the other stuff such as how it is all over the environment. To this day, i have not even heard the researchers mention the fact of these strange moving fibers being in products we purchase everyday.

"M" may be a huge thing which is being tried to be kept quiet with a whole ton of hush money to those involved.

Again, only speculation. But the "weirdness" involved in the whole sphere of "M" is just too questionable and bazaar to accept this abstract as proof positive. I hope they prove me wrong.

I hope I am only beomg paranoid and somebody really does want to help those with this "M" but so much doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

Too much NOT talked about on the news and so on.

[Venetia]

Originally Posted by posey

I have hesitated to post this because I don't want to be pessimistic and also I don't want to bring people down. This is only my speculation.

I just came from reading a post here at:
Barley (Fungus wash)

called: Barley (Fungus wash) by: zara cybele

The information in that post about all the bogus research on the net only adds to my wondering if this abstract from AMA is only a "pacifying abstract" to give hope to the people who are suffering, and in return hoping that will quiet down the "M" dilemna.

I just can not be sure it is a real find. What about all the other stuff such as how it is all over the environment. To this day, i have not even heard the researchers mention the fact of these strange moving fibers being in products we purchase everyday.

"M" may be a huge thing which is being tried to be kept quiet with a whole ton of hush money to those involved.

Again, only speculation. But the "weirdness" involved in the whole sphere of "M" is just too questionable and bazaar to accept this abstract as proof positive. I hope they prove me wrong.

I hope I am only beomg paranoid and somebody really does want to help those with this "M" but so much doesn't make any sense what-so-ever.

Too much NOT talked about on the news and so on.

From your post it sounds as if you are referencing this?


Barley (Fungus wash)

Fair use

Excerpt:

One more thing I would like to mention is that I have talked to several of the prominent figured involved with the media's version of what is going on, several of whom are listed on morgellons organizations sites as professional references with credentials such as Dr. or Microbiologists, several of them whom have also been on Fox news. I won't mention names but I do want to say that most of these people are either puppets or they are scared, and they aren't looking for a cure, they are avoiding it. I spent months asking them for their opinion on the issue and it got mo nowhere. One of them in particular even took to personal attacks on myself for simply asking him for images of his SEM (scanning electron microscope) studies. I will tell you, with all confidence, that even those images are all fakes and have nothing to do with the said pathogen. If anything, they took the few crazy people who did scratch themselves bloody and used them to discredit those who have a legitimate fungal infection. All of his images, some of which are listed on a very well known morgellons organizations site, are very real SEM images, but once again, having nothing to do with the said pathogen.

I also might warn you that in my opinion these organizations are a fake front, possibly nothing more than a means to collect statistical data on infected individuals, crude as it is, whomever is running these sites has no intent to do anything more than make you think that they care, when they are really just wasting your time. The only person with valid research at this point, as far as I'm concerned is a man by the name of Clifford Carnicom. Read his studies and you will see the real pathogen at hand. I believe that he may have also been persuaded to stop talking about this issue, as he recently formed an organization to protect the individuals involved and the studies so far compiled.

end excerpt

[brat789]

Very interesting post Venetia, and great input from others. This would make sense to me. When my fatigue and other problems (severe intestinal, stomach pain, constipation etc) started I was diagnosed with IBS. It started as something chronic in 2000. I find that I am much better when I avoid carbs, most notably wheat. I have been reading a lot lately about Celiac Disease and suspect I may have it given many symptoms I have and the high incidence of it in those of Scandinavian descent. I also found interesting on a celiac board I lurked on was that the horrible chapped skin on my hands that I have winter and summer where my skin just splits open and take forever to heal and dry skin in general in many cases comes from gluten sensitivity. I also found it fascinating here about the info about candida as a systemic infection. Sorry for this TMI...but if I don't shower right away when I wake up I start to itch all over. Most times i don't shower until later as I take my morning walk and don't want to get all sweaty after showering, but I need coffee to wake up so I usually go a little later. When I go to the bathroom (either one) there is always tiny fibers on the tissue which I always assumed in the past was lint form clothing etc. I recently did The Master Cleanse and can say I had so much relief from Morgs. It didn't completely clear it up or cure it in any way, but maybe if I stayed on it longer it may have been of more benefit..I no longer found fibers or had itching. I blew my nose and there were no visable fibers like usual. I didn't feel any movement or itching on my skin whatsoever...BUT my eyeclops did show fibers, but they were smaller than usual...more specks than fibers and lots of them, but no reaction to them such as itching or crawling sensations. I don't know if it was blasting them out? Who knows.
I notice when I eat sweets or carbs that later in the day my tongue has a coating and I actually get a yeast-like taste in my mouth. I would definitely accept a connection to candida with this.
On a side note I found out that I am sensitive to nightshade type fruits or veggies during the Master Cleanse. You are supposed to use Cayenne Pepper and I found that I felt horrible even after herxing for me should have been through. Usually by day 3 I start feeling awesome. I only felt worse as the days went on with horrible headaches and joint pain and swelling. I couldn't imagine what was going on until I happened to do a search for fresh cayenne (thinking maybe there was an additive in the powdered cayenne I bought) only to find information on people sensitive to nightshades. It described me perfectly. Once I cut the cayenne out of the cleanse I felt great. I am happy to have found this out because being 1/2 italian I eat a lot of sauce and tomatoes etc. and I am a firm believer that if you can eliminate anything that causes your body distress in some shape or form, it is only going to help your body fight off Morgs and other illness.

Thanks for the wealth of info. I kind of feel like there is more hope now.

[Venetia]

Hi Brat,

Very informative post- thank you.

I also believe that I have some issues that could be Candida yeast related. Something that
I have been taking (new) has caused my body to form lots of mucus along with a post nasal
drip - mucus running down the back of my throat? Could be Cinnamon. That is a newer supplement
for me. Lately, I have been choking a lot.

I am trying to determine if it (the abundance of mucus) is a good sign or a bad one? IOW, is
the Cinnamon (or whatever) clearing out the mucus or forming it?

As you mention, it could be diet? I like sweets as well and it could be the problem with the
mucus build up. I agree with you about the possible Celiac connection.

You mention being itchy all over if you don't shower right away in the morning? Wonder if that
could be Candida yeast on the skin?

I wake up stiff and achy. Takes a while to get my bones moving. I have found relief in the shower-
aiming the warm water at my legs. My calves usually hurt the most. The warm (sometimes hot) water
helps.

That too could be yeast toxins building up in the body during sleep?

I will have to try the Master Cleanse you mention. Thank you for sharing that.

Glad that the information on this thread helped you.

[Bee]

Choking A Lot. Before I did my first colon cleanse kit, I used to choke on food and cough a lot. Now I believe it's because I had lung worms ( I recently started coughing up eggs again ) It was as if something would make me swallow before I was finished chewing. I had so much mucus during the cleanse I thought I would drown,But afterward I could breath out of both nostrils for the first time since I could remember. I can't say enough good about the colon kit. Next I will do the Toxin Out Kit.

I always have to consider what I know about horse parasites and I have wondered if M could be kind of like EPM in horses. Which is oppossum parasites on the spine which interfers with the brain.I had a horse with EPM that choked. The holistic vet said his brain would tell him to swallow before he was finished chewing.I'm not saying we have EPM, just what parasites are capable of. I know my spine throbs like there is something in it and others say so too.

[Katinka]

Brat, do have blood type A? People with A 'react' to cayenne.

Considering that many 'morgies' have this blood type, here's a good site which foods should be avoided:

Blood Type A Diet

Kat

[tcmgpt13]

Just a bit of information I found online. I'll bet lung worms would come out at night too when secretions in the nose, throat and lungs pools somewhat in the body. As we all know parasites love dampness:

Swallowing Problems

Swallowing is a complicated process by which food and fluid go from the mouth into the esophagus (tube connecting the throat to the stomach). It requires coordinated nerve and muscle interaction. In the mouth, throat, and esophagus swallowing problems may result in accumulation of solids or liquids in the throat, which can spill into the voice box (larynx) and breathing passages (trachea and bronchi) causing hoarseness, throat clearing, or cough.

Several factors contribute to swallowing problems:

With age, swallowing muscles often lose strength and coordination. Thus, even normal secretions may not pass smoothly into the stomach.

During sleep, swallowing occurs much less frequently, and secretions may accumulate; coughing and vigorous throat clearing are often needed when awakening.

At any age, nervous tension or stress can trigger throat muscle spasms, resulting in a sensation of a lump in the throat. Frequent throat clearing, which usually produces little or no mucus, can make the problem worse by increasing irritation.

Growths or swellings in the food passages may slow or prevent the passage of liquids and/or solids.

Swallowing dysfunction may be caused by gastroesophageal reflux, which is a return of stomach contents and acid into the esophagus or into the throat. Heartburn, indigestion, and sore throat are common symptoms, which may be aggravated while lying down especially following eating. Hiatal hernia, a pouch-like structure at the junction of the esophagus and stomach, often contributes to the reflux.

Post-Nasal Drip