I have a couple questions.

[posey]

These fibers in clothes; how do they survive, esp. if they are fungus related or something? Or, is this "something" that is created and is really totally self sufficient but attacks when possible? But why would it do that if it doesn't need to and survives perfectly on its own? Desert?

I just threw out a pair of jeans which were washed so much that it was too much. Edges are ragged. I pulled off some of it and then wished I never did. The fiber wiggled really fast. Faster than I have ever seen.

This pair of pants has been through chemical washes from A to Z, including anti-freeze, various drain openers, etc., as well as more natural remedies.

NOTHING STOPS IT.

Is it even a living thing? How could a living thing survive all that? Is it science fiction come real? This is comparable to see a board come out of the house structure and start moving. Or a panel of siding coming alive, or the keys on my laptop begin to do things on their own.. wait a minute, I think a fork just talked. What is this all about. I want some answers.

Is it only in cotton? I am suspicious of that because I saw it in Crocs, and it was attached to it and not just by chance fell on it from employee.

Also, due to Raynauds I buy toe warmers in winter to wear on the outside of my socks by toes. I recently bought 20 pairs. When I took my socks off and proceeded to remove the toe warmers from socks I discovered that the side not attached to the sock had fibers sticking out all over. I can't say I checked them, I was in "M" shock when I saw it. I'll have to investigate further, but they looked like "them".

I hate "them". "Them" makes me sick.

Is this stuff everywhere? Is this in and/or on everything? Is this life as we know it now?

Somebody please, please try and explain something to me about it.

Has Dr. Wymore ever mentioned the "M" fibers in clothes? I've never seen that. Does he know that?

[fracty]

I've seen the "M" fibers in clothes, in packaging, in all types of things. (I've seen them in blenders, vacuums, a knife set, just about anything you can think of.)

IMO they are WORMS! Nematodes. Nematodes can go into a kind of dormant state like a camel can hold water. Some sources I've seen say they can last a year in hibernation, but other sources say some types can last indefinitely.

Also, the nematodes being used in cotton and other crops are GM as are the crops, as are the fertilizers. Who knows what this crazy combo has created. There half-robot, half-worms.. that become "half" me when they start nesting inside. I mean, if they are eating us, which we can feel they are, well you can guarantee they have some of "us" in their make-up.

Many scientists said these things are dangerous. But Montaso and the researchers do what they want.

For whatever reason, something in OUR bodies make us susceptible, while others can wear the clothes and not be harmed.

They make me sick too. Even the shape. Last night I dreamed of being slowly cut up and murdered, just like they are doing to us. It is such a sad thing to feel your body being destroyed and the ppl who could easily help refuse to even look.

PS- In my guess it is a new GM worm combo that does not register on tests because it has evolved from the chemical combos and the labs dont; know how to test for it.

[fracty]

Bleach alone is a cleaner.
Ammonia alone is a cleaner.
Put the two together you get a different (and toxic) substance.

Female eggs go through the body and can remain eggs.
Male sperm is released through the body and can remain sperm.
Put the two together and it grows into something totally different and amazing.

Despite the fact the average doctor would say the above is "impossible" (well they are wacky enough to say that about Morgellon's at least), and despite the fact the Montaso ppl would say it is impossible and lobby the gov to do whatever tehy want it is A BASIC TRUTH!!!!!! SCIENCE 101!!

Now that they have mixed up their little GM chemical - GM pesticide - GM fabric - GM food cocktail (top w a dash of nature), together they have something totally new and deadly for some beings (human beings, bee beings, etc).

[sarothra]

There is a connection between nematodes and nanotechnology, as delivery systems in agricultural control, medicine, etc.

Note how these nematodes are UNAFFECTED BY CHLORINE BLEACH (SEE BELOW)

Nematodes as bacterial, viral and potential nanotechnology delivery systems
Adamo, J.A. Luland-Richards, J.B. Antonelli, E.N. Garritt, E.F. Gealt, M.A.
Georgian Court Univ., Lakewood, NJ;

Abstract
In our studies we have used three different free-living nematodes: Rhabditis, Caenorhabditis elegans and Turbatrix aceti. Rhabditis, a microscopic nematode, has been reported worldwide in most soils and a wide variety of environments (air, water and land). It has been isolated in or on many invertebrates and higher forms of life i.e. earthworms, insects, plants, birds and other animals including man. Experiments were designed and showed that this worm could survive and was very resistant to chlorine bleach treatment with no ill effect. This allowed us to control bacterial and viral activity on the surface of the nematode. Further, we demonstrated that the organism gathered, concentrated, protected, hid and only digested about 70% of the bacteria it consumed, defecating 30% viable. We determined that the worm, on average could carry 1.6times106 bacteria. By feeding alternate identifiable strains of bacteria we were able to demonstrate internal bacterial conjugation, resulting in DNA transfer, transconjugants. The same studies done with C. elegans showed very similar results as those for Rhabditis. Here we demonstrated that the nematode could vector active virus (PhiX-174, 20nm). We were also able to purge the nematode of bacteria by adding the virus to the culture. Work with T. aceti using bent glass capillary tubes connected to wells in phenol red dextrose agar (PRDA) petri plates showed statistically significant pH preferential migratory behavior. The small size of the nematodes, their ability to vector bacteria, virus and to dismember bio-films suggests possible usefulness as nanotechnology delivery systems.

Welcome to IEEE Xplore 2.0: Nematodes as bacterial, viral and potential nanotechnology delivery systems



sar

[sarothra]

I found this curiously entertaining in a morbid way...lol...they can detect nematodes under the surface in a cod fillet, but not in me....

I think I need this test....if only I was a fish, I would get better medical treatment...

sorry, just a little levity...

Wiley InterScience :: Session Cookies

sar

[jonsi]

Here I go (again) on clothes & fibers:

Spray your clothes, environment, car, your body, pets, carpet etc... with and organic enzyme. Bug Arrest and Eco-vie work for me (but I don't think you can get Eco-vie anymore).

I've been desensitized to "M"... total body modification/muscle testing/kenesiology/bio-set, but before being desensitized the enzyme sprays seemed to help a lot. I still have "M".
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I still have nematodes. I still have "velcro-like" lesions, nematodes in my buggars and menses. They are large enough for the naked eye to see. Before I know what "M" was I was pulling out nematodes from my nose. I identified them in from Helene Curtis Biology book from college, however I didn't need a microscope to see what shape my buggars were because some were 1/4 inch long. But the similarity to the microscopic drawings I found in Curtis's book were identical. Also, there were no cells, mouth, anus, stomach identifiable in this "M" nematode.

I believe that's the big issue here. Has anyone identified any organs in our microscopic studies of this "M" nematode??

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Rubbing alcohol does NOT help kill the "M".
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In the white light,
~jonsi

[fracty]

LOL Sarothra! I wish we all were COD fillets.

Posey, I had to just throw away all my cotton and cotton blend clothes and belongings. The only things I have in the house now are a few 100% poly & 100% nylon things. Not even furniture really... One marble table, plastic containers, and a wooden chair that is not infected.

[Baraka Obam]

LOL, If your looking for tiny green, white, purple, lets not forget the ominus black things, your gonna find them, 92 percent probably fell off our rotten bodies, you can NOT clean the enviroment, its IMPOSSIBLE. I do not care WHAT you throw on the actual fibers, THEY DO NOT EVEN BURN.

It seem that no matter how much all of you clean your still sick, BECAUSE THIS LIVES INSIDE YOU. Maybe some of the nasty filaments are in the enviroment, no doubt, 7 billion people craping out some form of morg type infestation will do that. It may be good to round up a pile of corks and mandate use to stop the fouling of earth.

Ok here is a joke, Whats the best way to keep your house spotless, hire a morganite.

You know, one day I am laying down poison bars for my fathers farm, too many rats, SO, my father looks at me crazy like, use gloves to handle poison, so I stick all my fingers in my mouth one by one licking them like its frosting, what I was trying to show the crazy germ and chemical NUTTER was that you will NOT die from a little this or that, the fear of the little black speck, really, what are ya gonna do, how many are dirt, how many are magic beans or are they ALL bad after all they are black. look up black in the dictionary, it does mean evil.

Imagine your not in your SPOTLESS home with no cotton in it, do you ever go out to eat, way icky forenigers from hell are in the kitchen, slobering all over the food, using their hands on it, the dishes are half washed after plague victims use them, the glases just had somones slobbering lips all over them, then the worst part, the very worst is the spoons and tongs EVERYONE uses, PLAGUE, PLAGUE, hep me please Lord IT BE PLAGUE.

The again imagine you go to a farm where there are BUGS, in fact there are BUGS everywhere you go, lots of them in boxed and canned foods, in all reality all the stuff your cleaning out of your homes and more is in the food, so, what can you do about this mess.

I got a cold this week, maybe I should not have touched the door handle, or sat on the toilet seat, or drank any water, or worn any cloth, or went out with friends, or for that matter touched anything.

It seems really a waste of time to be so occupied with contamination outside the body when their is so much inside, then once you leave your so called steril domicile, which don't think for a minute just because you can't see anything that their isn't TRILLIONS of germs everywhere, you are once again exposed to the earth and all of its maladys, good the bad and the ugly.

If any of you guys live in Florida and want to clean houses and do laundry, I may marry just for this option, no men need apply.


One day, one day soon I am gonna look at the cotton and see what all the hubbub is about, maybe I will feel icky, maybe its best to let sleeping dogs lie

Or I can go after the NUTTER father of mine and show him the so called moving cotton bugs and he will have to give up cotton, won't that be somthing, ha ha ha, he is half off his rocker now about bugs and dirt and chemicals, made it to 80 now he wants to live pure and pristine. I ask him how many years he has left that fear should be his maiden.

I won't have to live with the devil in the here after for saying stuff like this will I? Cause really its none of my business if everyone is consumed with cleaning every black dot away but there is a reason for my post, I want the people knowing you can not clean away what lives inside you, calm down and relax before stress and worry kills you. Thats all folks!

[hurtin1]

I found this on Rhabditis (subgenus) Caenorhabditis,,,that at least describes distinctive "waving" behaviour of the dauer juveniles.
At least we know it is a known behavior of ONE type of neem...........


Phytogeny of Rhabditis subgenus Caenorhabditis (Rhabditidae, Nematoda)

phytogeny of Rhabditis subgenus Caenorhabditis (Rhabditidae, Nematoda)*

pdf

http://www.wormbase.org/external/200...ontke_1996.pdf.


I havent read all the pdf,,as I have to get adobe installed on this computer,,,but will...

I also read in another article,,,forgot which one,,,but it stated that there was a chemical,,or the likes that made the dauer juveniles,,tend to clump together by joining or wadding up....Safer in #"s,,,,like fish behavior???(schooling)

This behaviour(clumping) might explain the "gathering" seen by some..(toilet,,wine test,,ect)

Mind you ,,I am not stating this is THE neem,,,just that the behaviors in some reflect this....

[PennyM]

Originally Posted by posey

These fibers in clothes; how do they survive, esp. if they are fungus related or something? Or, is this "something" that is created and is really totally self sufficient but attacks when possible? But why would it do that if it doesn't need to and survives perfectly on its own? Desert?

I just threw out a pair of jeans which were washed so much that it was too much. Edges are ragged. I pulled off some of it and then wished I never did. The fiber wiggled really fast. Faster than I have ever seen.

This pair of pants has been through chemical washes from A to Z, including anti-freeze, various drain openers, etc., as well as more natural remedies.

NOTHING STOPS IT.

Is it even a living thing? How could a living thing survive all that? Is it science fiction come real? This is comparable to see a board come out of the house structure and start moving. Or a panel of siding coming alive, or the keys on my laptop begin to do things on their own.. wait a minute, I think a fork just talked. What is this all about. I want some answers.

Is it only in cotton? I am suspicious of that because I saw it in Crocs, and it was attached to it and not just by chance fell on it from employee.

Also, due to Raynauds I buy toe warmers in winter to wear on the outside of my socks by toes. I recently bought 20 pairs. When I took my socks off and proceeded to remove the toe warmers from socks I discovered that the side not attached to the sock had fibers sticking out all over. I can't say I checked them, I was in "M" shock when I saw it. I'll have to investigate further, but they looked like "them".

I hate "them". "Them" makes me sick.

Is this stuff everywhere? Is this in and/or on everything? Is this life as we know it now?

Somebody please, please try and explain something to me about it.

Has Dr. Wymore ever mentioned the "M" fibers in clothes? I've never seen that. Does he know that?

The reason for all this is that it is NOT a fungus, it is a mind control campaign.
The people telling you is a fungus are misinforming or lying to you. Fungus causes cancer NOT Morgellons. From reading the threads I have decreed that there are some major misinformants on here planting memes for pure devillment. Remove the word FUNGUS fom your Morgellons vocabulary because it will only lead you up a cul de sac, paying thousands of pounds for crap that will not cure you.