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(LC) Last edited by ladycolorado; December 12th, 2009 at 09:16 AM. |
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| We've looked at this before. The CDC report is dated 2006 and other info regarding this is dated even earlier. Don't you think, that the CDC would have come up with this explanation as to what is causing Morgellons Disease? It wouldn't take them so long to figure that out, would it? Bacteria, nematode..Ivermectin..there ya go?...nope...I personally don't think so...This disease is way more complex than a nematode 'invasion' with an insect bacteria. Certainly, insects are involved, but it's not that simple. Kat |
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| I agree it is not that simple. I think it is a combination of things. As far as the CDC and their study I do not have much faith in that either. Nor about them making connections. (LC) |
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| Great stuff Saro. I think both the bacteria Photorhabdus asymbiotica and entomopathogenic nematodes such as Heterorhabditis bacteriophora and others could well be implicated in morgs. I also think that Kat's right, its more complicated than this. Saro, one set of analysis that I maybe able to get running, via a number of labs, is to try and culture Photorhabdus asymbiotica - from my dead fungus gnats and from skin samples. P.asymbiotica is a fungus gnat pathogen remember. Gardeners and farmers are using entomopathogenic nematodes to infect fungus gnat pests so that once infected, the bacteria can burst from the nematode and kill the gnat. Check out "Poster code 14" Comparison of efficacy of entomopathogenic nematode species against fungus gnat, Bradysia coprophila, in floriculture : IPN Web Jo xxx |
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| Can anyone do a test like this on exudate from a lesion? http://kacc.rda.go.kr/search/imagevi...086&kacc=11928 http://kacc.rda.go.kr/search/imagevi...235&kacc=12123 http://kacc.rda.go.kr/search/imagevi...371&kacc=12282 sar Last edited by sarothra; December 12th, 2009 at 06:49 PM. |
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| Call me crazy (lol, some have, mostly with M.D. after their name!) but this description of photorhabdus infection sounds like M to me: "Cases occur in warm wet months, usually after rain storms, and on extremities such as the feet. P. asymbiotica is associated with severe soft tissue and systemic infections, and has been considered an "emerging human pathogen". We have recently discovered that P. asymbiotica strains (at least in Australia) are vectored by a heterorhabditis-like nematode which can predate insects in the laboratory in a life cycle similar to that of the well characterized EPN strain complexes. We don't yet know if these P. asymbiotica EPN complexes deliberately seek out mammalian skin in the environment, although genetic and biological analysis of P. asymbiotica ATCC43949 does suggest it is well adapted for survival, at least in humans." Department of Biology & Biochemistry - University of Bath photor8.jpg This is a picture of an infection from Photorhabdus Asymbiotica. LOOKS LIKE A MORGELLONS LESION TO ME --- Refer to above link for more pictures. BTW the first picture of the foot looks funny because there is a Tegaderm patch (a very thin type of bandage they put on wounds and IV's) - you can see the outline of the Tegaderm patch and edges of it on the next pic. Tegaderm patches are good for healing (I paid $100 for a box of them - prescription only - for my lesions) - I think the descriptions of the lesions and so many other things just sound so much like what I have experienced. Any other opinions on this? sarothra Last edited by sarothra; December 13th, 2009 at 01:54 AM. |
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| I took the liberty of recopying this photo for comparison with the photorhabdus infection photo (above): ArmHoleNearClear.jpg PLEASE FORGIVE ME but I THINK this is Baraka's photo - I lost the reference but I know it was someone on this site! I am a computer idiot, please someone tell us who's photo this is because I want to credit the source -- ![]() But look at the comparison between this photo and the one in the post above. It's uncanny, I think. sarothra |
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| Wow, Saro....It sure does look like his lesion! It IS uncanny. I think the CDC knows exactly what Morgellons is and the problem is just that they don't want to incriminate who is responsible for this becoming part of our human pathogen. I personally have never had a lesion such as that. I have lesions (not many now except for facial "acne" I have been spot-clearing as they come. The things I am able to pull from my skin (mostly tips of fingers that look like I probably snagged a cloth fiber with my nail) I have been scoping and find they look the same as what comes from my body internally. It could be that mine don't get to be as large as others because maybe the larger ones are something infected that are different than what has infected me. (does that even make sense? lol) As I've said, we may not all have the exact same manifestation of this Morgellons infiltration because of many factors, but I do believe it's all related to the same core organism(s). Thanks for this information. Kritts |
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| It is, they look almost the same. I still have a question though. Where are the fibers in this type ? It did not say anything about fibers or threads or filaments. strongylus monospinigerum is more like it, for the fibers. I had a small boil... it changed shapes during the week, it was an open "u" about half an inch and became a "I" of one inch, it was somewhere a bit undisclosed, and I even thought was an ingrown hair. Last night, I decided to prick it with all precautions, as sterilization, and hydroxy peroxide and as I prick it with a needle, first thing that popped out was a small thread that I could see under the 10x magnification mirror. Then lots of pus ( gross!) Hydroxy + neosporin, is almost gone by morning. I thought I was seeing things, that it was cotton from the cotton ball, but after comparing both threads, nope... not cotton. That one was sturdy. Plus... same site I was diagnostic with fibrosis... so i wonder what that "fibrosis" is. Clumps of fibers huh? All and all I think is even good that that happen, it might mean my body is reacting and grabbing it by their filaments! Outa here weird thready alien body... you do not belong said the T and white cells... ![]() Good job! Last edited by jee; December 13th, 2009 at 09:41 AM. |
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That second video sure brought memories of high school science videos on the projector screen...I can still picture as if it were yesterday. And the video itself looks something like what they produced back in the 60's ![]() One thing mentioned was how they obtained the nematodes from South America and brought them to Florida. Kritts |
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