A Riddle

[Kritters]

Two people live in the same house.

One has Morgellons.

The other does not.

Why?

Although I realize that some people aren't exhibiting signs of it yet as others do while they also might have it, I think it is a fact that one person can have Morgellons and not the rest of the household. I'm wondering if there is something specific in the body (pathogen, metal, toxin, etc.) which makes Morgellons manifest in some and not others. Maybe our levels of toxins have to reach a point, or our blood/acid levels have to reach a point, or a combination, or our blood types etc.

Please forgive the simplicity of this post, but I just thought of it while reading some posts about the hubbies, etc. and don't have time to formulate a better post about my thoughts.

Kritts

[Sadsack]

Kritters -

There does seem to be a genetic vulnerability (Staninger's work on the Viking bloodlines, haplogroup U5).

There is more to the story than that. One of my sisters came to stay with me for a week when all hell was breaking loose (summer 2007). She takes pharmaceuticals, Tylenol, eats sugar, uses chemical cleaners in her house, doesn't eat organic).

Why didn't she catch this? I think there are stages or maybe specific symptoms that are more contagious than others. There most certainly WAS something in my environment at that time that was getting my birds and cat sick (several birds died; one was mutilating herself by pulling out her feathers and biting her legs).

Is it the length of time of exposure?

I had significant soil exposure, but my birds didn't, so that isn't the key. Cat relieves herself outside, so she's exposed to dirt all the time.

I was thinking that early psychological trauma might be involved. But my sister experienced that.

So I am clueless. Except maybe there is a longish incubation period, and my sister might still get it. I know I had it for at least 5 years before my outbreak.

SS

[lamb]

Don't be so sure Kritts.. My biggest fear is that they do have it, I see the "signs" but they don't know it yet. I pray to God that they remain blissfully unaware through eternity! I do all that I can to keep them safe and un exposed.

[Kritters]

thanks SS and Lambster for your responses. I'm not sure. But I am sure. I'm sure that makes sense. This is why I'm putting that out here. We need to get specific and attentive to this question. Our instantaneous opinions, although appreciated and welcomed need to have some back-up, I think. We need to be very observant.

How many people have mold in their homes? How many of you who have Morgellons have Lyme also? Or symptoms of Lyme and if so, how many of you also have any kind of mold issues?

98% of the population also have Herpes in one form or another. We need to know how this fits in, if it does.

How many of you have high levels of mercury or other heavy metals? How many of you have even had your levels checked?

See, this is why at the most fundamental level....we will not figure this out.

IF THERE WERE SOME KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE POLLING ON THIS FORUM....WE MIGHT STAND A CHANCE OF FIGURING THIS OUT HERE. BUT WE DO NOT. IF ANYONE ELSE IS CAPABLE OF PROVIDING THIS, WE MIGHT GET SOMEWHERE.

[dizzy dame]

Kritts, here is something else that I could add to my list...we found out that our water supply has high levels of radium. I don't know how long we have had this problem, but they finally sent out a letter telling us about it last year, and I know it is not any better. We use bottled water for all cooking and drinking..now, but what might that have already done to the citizens of this little burg? What do you think? DD

[weredIgo]

Hi,
A riddle indeed. I, probably like everyone else here have racked my brain over this. For some reason blood type haunts me. As to being born with this as opposed to getting later in life. Or being perfectly healthy and getting it. There is a trigger too that sets the explosion off. Is it that your body is so full of this and all it takes is just one more thing to set this off? My husband and I both came down with certain symptoms when living in a small leaky camper and staying on the carport for eight months while the house was being gutted for mold. I will always feel morgellons killed him. So how is it both our bodies came to their limit at same time. Aw, I could go on and on about why I think these things but what good would it do. Although I do think when we have a good thought on this we should bring it here to ponder. You never know. I do know I am obessed with the RIDDLE.


Claudia

[Kritters]

DD,

That part about the radium is interesting. I wonder if we all have radium....(Venetia, where are you?)

Claudia,

The one common denominator it seems is the mold. I don't know if your bodies came to the 'limit' at the same time or not, but my guess would be that it would all depend on the saturation level of the mold spores in the air and how much of them either one of you have inhaled. Also, levels of acidic pH in the blood for one reason or another. Also what else is going on in the body at the time. Other illnesses, etc.

I think we're all obsessed with this riddle and I think we're doing great here coming together with information.

Kritts

[Venetia]

Hi,

Why I got this grunge- IMO- is that my immune system had already been compromised then I was exposed to other pathogens- I have hypothyroidism. Why I have a thyroid issue- is IMO- from radiation.

Others in the family have symptoms- not necessarily my symptoms. None have fibers- just me.
But I see 'IT' taking it's toll- with other conditions.

Kritters- you ask about radium (radiation). I feel that is very much a part of this re: weakening our immune systems:

Scroll down to this:

Strontium is always present in air as dust-returns to soil/water (Strontium = radiation byproduct)

Morgellons Research Update - Dr. Wymore - Page 3

and this:

Morgellons Research Update - Dr. Wymore - Page 2

Scroll down to this:

Environmental FIBERS-Radioactive-PCBs-Monsanto


Environmental FIBERS-Radioactive-PCBs-Monsanto

Scroll down to this:

Fallout/Radiation- key to Springtail Infestations

Fungal Network caused by Mycorrhiza draws Springtails

I believe the Boomers, 1946- 1964 got the major hit of radiation- Nuke testing and Chernobyl and as a result- there would most likely be more Boomers with this condition.

Favorite map:

strontium 90: Cold War Remnant & Cancer for Baby Boomers

strontium 90: Cold War Remnant & Cancer for Baby Boomers

So now- in addition to the above, we have Global Dimming. Johns Hopkins stated (years ago) that 50% of the houses in the US have mold issues. I was to a seminar in 2003, where an insurance adjuster spoke and he stated the same. It's dimming- not warming. Light is being prevented (UV) from killing the mold and we are suffering the consequences.

Just notice as you drive by houses- the roofs are moldy. I was a Realtor for over 34 years- and have observed more than my share of houses. Never was there more of a problem with mold on rooftops than there is right now.

Diet enters into the picture as well. Those consuming lots of sugar will, IMO, have more problems. The sugar/yeast combination enters into this in a big way. Feeds the mold (fungal) cycle.

Those consuming less- will be more healthy.

I would add to a poll with some of the above-

* are you a Boomer (1946-1964)- that would go to the Radiation issue

* are you aware of mold issues in your house or your workplace ?

* do you consume cookies, cakes, candy on a regular basis ? (sugar/yeast feeds fungal/mold)

* do you consume more than (pick a number) of beer per week (yeast)



-V-

[Kritters]

Hey V~ Thanks for responding!

Is radium RADIATION? Sorry for my instant gratification question, but I briefly googled and didn't see. But if radium is in our soil (and it is...radon, right?) and in our water, wouldn't this have the ability to mutate fungi into killer pathogenic creatures that seek and destroy anything it comes into contact with? Just thinking out loud. I know in new home sales in N.J. there have to be radon detectors installed now before it can sell. Scary, huh?

Kritts

[Venetia]

Hi Kritters-

Sorry for the ramble- and I even shortened it!

You ask: Is radium RADIATION?


Difference between radon and radium

What is the difference between radon and radium, particularly in water. Is it one and the same? With radon in the water, at what level should you be worried and what type of system can eliminate or lower the radon level?

Radium is a radioactive metal discovered by Marie Curie that occurs naturally in trace amounts in the earth's crust and in the ocean and fresh waters in lakes, rivers, and streams. When radium decays, the resultant product is the radioactive chemically inert gas radon. So radium produces radon as a result of radioactive decay—they are different elements but are normally found together

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This links tells about radon being drawn into the house via the basement (via soil)

High-radon project research

Maps:

United States Radon Levels Map

Predicted fraction of homes with radon over 4 pCi/L

-V-