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[MELISSAJ]

I promise I will keep it short

So, today was 85+ in sunny FL and I am trying to circulate a bit after 2 months of being reclusive by my standards as I searched for answers. I picked up the boys at 3 pm at school and by 4 I was starting to feel itchy. When I got to the car, I could see all the black specs/teeny tiny dots and splinters and said to myself no problem and drove home. We had dinner, HW, family time, etc. and I HAD to bathe before I put them down (I have NEVER done this before in 6+ years of motherhood).

I was exceptionally itchy in the bath which I am not usually unless something lands on me, but overall, I'm not itchy from this disease. So, today was H2O2 and salt and shower with Selsun Blue. I've been using my old prescription sulfur disposable wipes in the shower 1 or 2 xs /week. I used one today and when I came out, I sprayed with vinegar/salt because Eco-vie was in kitchen. My skin was BURNING and turning rashy red all over and FINALLY I know what you mean by the "worms" in the lesions. Small brownish larvae came out of the bumps by my eyebrows. They were very visible without any magnification which I've never used anyway and my first question is is this a die off? Are the black specs that I've seen all this time excrement? I noticed that most of the "fibers" that have come out of me over time have been my dad's dog or cat hair and mostly my own hair in the wrong locations - such as head hair wrapped around knees, under toe nails etc..Does it seem to you all that my skin is taking in foreign matter or manufacturing it? I honestly believe that everything that has visibly come out of my skin has been absorbed in the past few years (glitter, animal hairs, mirror chips, particle board shavings, etc)

Also, I have been unusually sticky, but not in a hot and sweaty way. It is more of a magnetic stickiness. My shoes have been sticky to the carpets, elbows to wood and shoulders to walls and bed. I am showing darkened blackish grey on my shoulders, forearms, elbows and in the past feet. I am also getting knuckle swelling with ashy grey color. My four y/o is also showing this. Any ideas?

I bought citric mouthwash with alchohol, eucalyptus and menthol 3 wks ago at Walmart and I went to use it from the bathroom that I have quarantined and it is literally filled with some type of amoeba. I looked in the cabinet under the sink and it is filled with black soot like specs and matter. I have sprayed this cabinet many times, but I am keeping us all in one bathroom until I am better.

I am also noticing unusually fast ripening of my fruit ( I use the cleaner from Whole Foods) with black and brown dots on bananas and apples that i just purchase. I remember that this happened before I left for trip and I was not too concerned. Do you think that we are all eating contaminated food? I already lost 20+ lbs and I have gotten some appetite back and not I am concerned. Are my pitchers of teas, and Brita water in refrigerator safe? Does anyone have ideas about this? Are we eating them? Please advise.

Also, I am having tremendous difficulty with my hands, hair and feet when I go to the stores etc.

A month ago I would have cracked, but nothing suprises me about this disease anymore.

Okay, this is longer then I expected. I am so tired and tired...I apologize.

[Bakunin]

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

Small brownish larvae came out of the bumps by my eyebrows. They were very visible without any magnification which I've never used anyway and my first question is is this a die off?

I don't think so, it's seems more like it's just there normal behavior:

"The bacteria kill the host, usually within 24-48 hours. Nematodes feed on the bacteria and host remains, and each infective juvenile develops into a hermaphroditic female. These females then produce eggs which will develop into both males and females. Only a portion of the eggs are laid outside the female; the remainder hatch inside the female and the juveniles destroy their mother as they develop. These nematodes mature, mate and produce infective juveniles that emerge from the cadaver 12-14 days after infection."

http://www.entomology.wisc.edu/mbcn/kyf611.html
http://web.umr.edu/~microbio/BIO221_...iles/frame.htm (IE only)

These things are probably just not sure what to do. The human body and small insects are not the same after all.

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

Also, I have been unusually sticky, but not in a hot and sweaty way. It is more of a magnetic stickiness. My shoes have been sticky to the carpets, elbows to wood and shoulders to walls and bed. I am showing darkened blackish grey on my shoulders, forearms, elbows and in the past feet. I am also getting knuckle swelling with ashy grey color. My four y/o is also showing this. Any ideas?

Same here, but i have no real clue what is responsible for that.

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

I bought citric mouthwash with alchohol, eucalyptus and menthol 3 wks ago at Walmart and I went to use it from the bathroom that I have quarantined and it is literally filled with some type of amoeba. I looked in the cabinet under the sink and it is filled with black soot like specs and matter. I have sprayed this cabinet many times, but I am keeping us all in one bathroom until I am better.

Hydrogenperoxid should kill these things. It's at least worth a try.

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

I am also noticing unusually fast ripening of my fruit ( I use the cleaner from Whole Foods) with black and brown dots on bananas and apples that i just purchase. I remember that this happened before I left for trip and I was not too concerned. Do you think that we are all eating contaminated food? I already lost 20+ lbs and I have gotten some appetite back and not I am concerned. Are my pitchers of teas, and Brita water in refrigerator safe? Does anyone have ideas about this? Are we eating them? Please advise.

I'm not sure about the food.... But there are many herbals which are very powerful to get the appetite back. Herbals like Oregano and Coriander for example. I'm currently regaining weight thanks to these herbals.


Peace

[beverlybdmd]

The things in the mouth wash were probably LOTS of dead Morgies. It sounds like a good mouth wash, but at one point,you probably left the lid on the counter while you were using it, or left it sitting open , long enough for one to crawl in & start dying. It worked like my "killing jar" works---he reached out to collect all the rest of his cellular colony mates who were still healthy & alive, so that they could come EN-MASS and neutralize this toxin, and save him. (re-assemble the multicellular gigantic organism.) how-ever, even when they all manage to somehow slip into that bottle, cell-by-cell, they all still drowned in the toxic goo. (yay!)

Take that bottle out to the curb and throw it out with the trash,but remember that brand of mouth wash--its a good one!!

wash the fruit with a vegetable wash solution (grapefruit oil, or citrus oil, usually) then dry and wrap with a paper towel, place in sealed plastic bags in refrigerator--keeps from ripening or molding too fast, even bananas.

Are you using the Amlactin cream? Try adding a few drops of peppermint oil, and clove oil to it. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU COULD BE PREGNANT. Mix only a very little essential oil with a LOT of cream on the gray ashy, or puffy areas around swollen joints. This is usually where there are stored eggs.

Huge increase in itch, is usually due to an egg-laying cycle. They are coming up to the surface, and there will be lots of threads, and eggs, and specs all over for a few days. ESSENTIAL OILS, DSP, MENTHOL.

[deluded]

Originally Posted by MELISSAJ

I am also noticing unusually fast ripening of my fruit ( I use the cleaner from Whole Foods) with black and brown dots on bananas and apples that i just purchase. I remember that this happened before I left for trip and I was not too concerned. Do you think that we are all eating contaminated food? I already lost 20+ lbs and I have gotten some appetite back and not I am concerned. Are my pitchers of teas, and Brita water in refrigerator safe? Does anyone have ideas about this? Are we eating them? Please advise.

Melissa...do you really want to know? If you can't see anything, that is wonderful...easier to eat...I can see that ALL my food is contaminated...including water from tap and my filtered water that comes off fridge...they are capable of going through 4 coffee filters...they somehow get into my frozen food that has not even been opened, and in plastic bag inside of box...my sugar bowl...plastic container like Rubbermaid...I look at the clear plastic bags and see through it...I can see those little bitty fibers...hoping they are only on the outside...nope...on the inside and haven't even been opened...I can't eat here anymore...the only thing I eat is slimfast bars here...so far I haven't seen them on them...but honestly, I am trying not to look...as soon as something is opened...forget it...like chips....I can see the fibers all over it...I don't eat chips anyway, but I bought some hot fries thinking they might get them out of my mouth...nope....and all of them were covered a short time later...they even get in stuff that they aren't supposed to like...like orange juice...(citric acid) didn't stop them...I hate this, because I can't afford to eat out all the time, and I am too tired and don't feel like leaving the house to go get something....don't like eating in my car, and don't want to bring it home to eat...and don't want to go inside to eat at a restaurant every meal...I have become OCDish about it all, I know, but I look closely at everything, and it is there...sorry to have to share that with you...might have been better if I didn't...but I would want to know too...Kentucky haze

[deluded]

Originally Posted by beverlybdmd

The things in the mouth wash were probably LOTS of dead Morgies. It sounds like a good mouth wash, but at one point,you probably left the lid on the counter while you were using it, or left it sitting open , long enough for one to crawl in & start dying. It worked like my "killing jar" works---he reached out to collect all the rest of his cellular colony mates who were still healthy & alive, so that they could come EN-MASS and neutralize this toxin, and save him. (re-assemble the multicellular gigantic organism.) how-ever, even when they all manage to somehow slip into that bottle, cell-by-cell, they all still drowned in the toxic goo. (yay!)

Take that bottle out to the curb and throw it out with the trash,but remember that brand of mouth wash--its a good one!!

wash the fruit with a vegetable wash solution (grapefruit oil, or citrus oil, usually) then dry and wrap with a paper towel, place in sealed plastic bags in refrigerator--keeps from ripening or molding too fast, even bananas.

Are you using the Amlactin cream? Try adding a few drops of peppermint oil, and clove oil to it. DO NOT DO THIS IF YOU COULD BE PREGNANT. Mix only a very little essential oil with a LOT of cream on the gray ashy, or puffy areas around swollen joints. This is usually where there are stored eggs.

Huge increase in itch, is usually due to an egg-laying cycle. They are coming up to the surface, and there will be lots of threads, and eggs, and specs all over for a few days. ESSENTIAL OILS, DSP, MENTHOL.

Dr. Beverly...couldn't she use her mouthwash like a killing jar....to clean with...didn't you say, Melissa, that it was Listerine/Citrus kind...? Seems like there would be something she could use it for...maybe put in a spray bottle and use as a air freshener...wash something down so it will smell fresh and citrussy...and kill lots more Morgies with their own friends in the killing jar....just an idea...but would I know...cuz I am always in a ...........haze

[phillyfanatic]

All I can say is Ditto all of Kentucky's food observations!
Hugs, Philly

[beverlybdmd]

Kentucky--you are right on the money!! I was thinking about that today, when I got up, and wondered why I told Melissa to throw it out, when if they had all drowned--it would have REALLY potentiated the toxic strength of the solution to Morgies. She could add just a little bit of it to any of her regular cleaning solutions, and it should help boost them quite a bit.
Must have been tired, ready for bed. Just thinking that she wouldn't want to gargle with it!

[beverlybdmd]

Kentucky--you are right on the money!! I was thinking about that today, when I got up, and wondered why I told Melissa to throw it out, when if they had all drowned--it would have REALLY potentiated the toxic strength of the solution to Morgies. She could add just a little bit of it to any of her regular cleaning solutions, and it should help boost them quite a bit.
Must have been tired, ready for bed. Just thinking that she wouldn't want to gargle with it!

[MELISSAJ]

Thanks for all the responses. I was just looking at the mouthwash again a little bit ago and haven't been online until now. I am going to put it in a spray bottle and I'll let you know. They are pretty ugly. Just specs of stuff with an "eye" which reminds me of bio 101 in college.

I always liked to keep my fruit out in bowls. My grandmother and I used to buy the produce daily in NYC and put in bowls after washing - the good ol' days of childhood. I still go to the produce market 3-4xs/week. All the fruit and veggies were freezing because I increased temp in 'fridge to kill them before I knew how strong they were. I am not a eat from a package kind of gal, but it looks like packaged food and ziplocks until further notice.

This is very labor intensive. Makes you not want to dress, eat or go out, but we are a very social family....so, many late nights. Thank goodness for electricity or I would never get my work done. What would we have done in the 1800s? I truly have compassion for the poverty stricken human beings in 3rd world countries without modern medicine, technology, etc. Imagine malaria and no running water in ....fill in the blank.

So, let's look on the bright side, I have a working PC, DSL, money to pay for all this madness and YOU to help me get through this.

Today was a pretty good day. I went to eye doctor/surgeon (MIT undergraduate and U of Miami Dental. He said my eyes were fine and problems were Lyme's related, but he saw no virus or harmful bacteria. I have 20/30 with astigmatism and everything else is okay. That's promising - right? Do you think there could be something that he couldn't pick up because they were not there presently?

I'm off to fold laundry. I have my IgenX blood work tomorrow. Please pray or cross fingers that all goes well.

Hugs,
Melissa

[MELISSAJ]

Thanks for all the responses. I was just looking at the mouthwash again a little bit ago and haven't been online until now. I am going to put it in a spray bottle and I'll let you know. They are pretty ugly. Just specs of stuff with an "eye" which reminds me of bio 101 in college.

I always liked to keep my fruit out in bowls. My grandmother and I used to buy the produce daily in NYC and put in bowls after washing - the good ol' days of childhood. I still go to the produce market 3-4xs/week. All the fruit and veggies were freezing because I increased temp in 'fridge to kill them before I knew how strong they were. I am not a eat from a package kind of gal, but it looks like packaged food and ziplocks until further notice.

This is very labor intensive. Makes you not want to dress, eat or go out, but we are a very social family....so, many late nights. Thank goodness for electricity or I would never get my work done. What would we have done in the 1800s? I truly have compassion for the poverty stricken human beings in 3rd world countries without modern medicine, technology, etc. Imagine malaria and no running water in ....fill in the blank.

So, let's look on the bright side, I have a working PC, DSL, money to pay for all this madness and YOU to help me get through this.

Today was a pretty good day. I went to eye doctor/surgeon (MIT undergraduate and U of Miami Dental. He said my eyes were fine and problems were Lyme's related, but he saw no virus or harmful bacteria. I have 20/30 with astigmatism and everything else is okay. That's promising - right? Do you think there could be something that he couldn't pick up because they were not there presently?

I'm off to fold laundry. I have my IgenX blood work tomorrow. Please pray or cross fingers that all goes well.

Hugs,
Melissa