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Old October 10th, 2009, 05:59 PM
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What do you think is causing all the Alzhemiers then Steven ?
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Old October 10th, 2009, 06:10 PM
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Need you ask Carla? The sponge of course. The same thing that causes mad cow disease (and isn't it ironic that they call it a spongy brain disease), cancer, auto-immune diseases, as well as a list of other diseases as long as your arm. You should know by now Carla about my fixation on the sponge, maybe that's why I like Spongebob squarepants so much.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 06:19 PM
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Can you rephrase what you said to Jonsi, Steve
What makes you think your opinion is more useful than hers?
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Old October 10th, 2009, 06:33 PM
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My opinion is SUBSTANTIATED by facts Carla, like the fact that Alzheimer's plaques are made up of an amyloid substance and the sponge is capable of producing amyloid substances and depositing them in great quantities.

Quarterly journal of microscopical ... - Google Books

This is only one link between the sponge and Alzheimer's, there are more but I am not prepared to list them all at this very moment since I don't have all of this data at my fingertips.

Since there are NO FACTS that link Alzheimer's to chemtrails this opinion is UNSUBSTANTIATED, that is the difference between the two opinions Carla.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 09:08 PM
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Link Between Nanotechnology and Alzheimer's Disease

Scientists at the University of Ulster are investigating a link between some man-made nanoparticles, such as those found in sunscreens and Alzheimer's disease.

Professor Vyvyan Howard, a pathologist and toxicologist and Dr Christian Holscher, an expert in Alzheimer's disease are leading this groundbreaking research into whether human engineered nanoparticles can induce neurodegenerative disease.
A nanoparticle measures between 1 and 100 nanometres. A nanometre is one millionth of a millimetre.
Professor Howard and Dr Holscher, who are both based at the Biomedical Sciences Institute in Coleraine, have been awarded Ł350,000 from the European Union to carry out investigations over the next three years.
Their research is part of a worldwide project call NeuroNano which includes European academic partners at the universities of Dublin, Cork, Edinburgh and Munich. In America, the universities of California, Rochester and Rice and in Japan the National Institute of Materials Science.
"The overall science and technology objective of this programme is to determine if engineered nanoparticles could constitute a significant neuro-toxicological risk to humans for two diseases - Alzheimer's and Parkinson's," said Professor Howard.
The University of Ulster experts will be specifically looking at nanoparticles present in chemicals found in sunscreens and an additive in some diesel fuels - titanium dioxide and cerium oxide - and their connection to Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s diseases.
“There is now firm evidence that some engineered nanoparticles entering intravenously or via lungs can reach the brains of small animals. Indeed they lodge in almost all parts of the brain and there are no efficient clearance mechanisms to remove them once there,” said Professor Howard.
“There are also suggestions that nanoscale particles arising from urban pollution have reached the brains of animals and children living in Mexico City.
“It has recently been discovered that nanoparticles can have highly significant impacts on the rate of misfolding of key proteins associated with neurodegenerative diseases like Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease.
"The brain itself is a very special organ. It cannot repair by replacing nerve cells, the ones you get at birth have to last all your life, which makes them peculiarly vulnerable to long term low dose toxicity.
"The brain has built up some protective mechanisms, such as the blood brain barrier. A major worry is that nanoparticles seem to be able to circumvent this. All this adds up to a new field of investigation.
“This research programme is deeply challenging and entails the gathering of entirely new knowledge in a field – neuronanotoxicology.
“It requires the marshalling of unique expertise, methodologies, techniques and materials, many themselves completely new and never before brought together in the required combination.
"The latest figures show that neurodegenerative diseases currently affect over 1.6% of the European population, with dramatically rising incidence likely in part to the increase of the average age of the population. This is a major concern for all industrialized societies.
“There is also some epidemiological evidence that Parkinson’s disease is connected to environmental pollutants and it is often noted that historically, reports of Parkinson’s symptoms only began to appear after widespread industrialization.
“There is some general agreement that pesticides are significant risk factors. There are persistent claims, based on the epidemiology, that pollution may be a co-factor in Alzheimer’s disease, but here the evidence is controversial.
“The risk that engineered nanoparticles could introduce unforeseen hazards to human health is now also a matter of growing concern in many regulatory bodies, governments and industry.”
The NeuroNano Programme builds on some striking published findings as well as preliminary data from most significant circumstantial evidence that nanoscale particles could impact on such diseases.
The University of Ulster is clearly recognised as a leader in the field of nanotoxicology after winning this funding from the EU - less than 1% of applicants were successful. This grant builds on expertise in the previous EU Framework Programme - NanoInteract.

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Old October 10th, 2009, 09:31 PM
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I have moved the discussion of Alzheimer's caused by the sponge to my thread Steve Frey's sponge replication theory.
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Old October 10th, 2009, 09:56 PM
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I would tend to agree that pollutants are connected to Alzheimer's and Parkinson's but there is an intermediate factor involved that causes this to be so, that factor would be the sponge and it's consumption of these pollutants, this is what a sponge eats, chemicals, the wastes of other organisms, it eats what nothing else wants. This is the connecting factor here.
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Old October 11th, 2009, 09:52 AM
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IN order to understand Nano a bit better, I looked back to when it was actually developed:

http://tinyurl.com/ygqmt37


It is huge in the medical field as well:

Precise nanotechnology biosensor developed - UPI.com


I even found that Nano was connected (via the vaccines) to T parva- and other vaccines.

It is impossible to discount the Nano aspect but I think that the pathogens deserve equal time.

Case in point- the T parva can and does Hijack cells. Blood cells to be exact. That, in turn, causes Cancer.

Robert Smith's Excellent Research give answers & confirmations

As to the Chemtrails- I see the sky in my area and have read enough to know that it's not contrails, but there are too many others researching that aspect. The base is covered, so to speak, so I look
at the other areas - such as the environmental pollutants and the pathogens such as the T parva- brought to us by the food chain, insects, animals (fleas/mites/ticks) and so many other vectors.

Not to discount mold- which, IMO, is the result of Global Dimming (not to be confused with the BS Global Warming). IN 2003, I was at a seminar and an expert in the area of mold told the audience that
50% of the homes in the US had mold issues. Most definitely part of the emerging diseases. The insurance companies had to circle the wagons to protect their bank accounts on that issue. I would imagine they have posters (posers) on various boards attempting to side-track people on the mold issue- blaming anything but in order to confuse the issue. Kind of like a
Morgellonswatch type thing.

NOVA | Dimming the Sun | PBS

Those mold issues are due to the Global Dimming- and the Global Dimming is due to the substances (metals, et al) that are being sprayed daily in the atmosphere blocking the Sun- causing MOLD & fungus issues everywhere.

Makes sense if you think about it. You don't have to get real technical- cause and effect.

As to Alzheimer's and other diseases, I have read Mark Purdey's work and he makes sense.

CAUSE- Manganese + Organophosphates=over 60 diseases

As an aside, Mark Purdey did believe that in addition to the pesticides and the high manganese in the soils as well as the effects of the radiation (nuke testing and Chernobyl etc) that Chemtrails had
a decided effect on people as relates to Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and more. The man was brilliant.

Years ago, I read that Fluoride and Aluminum made a toxic brew that caused the prions (the folded proteins that ARE the cause of Alzheimer's). A huge percentage of the 'Boomers' cooked in Club Aluminum pots and pans and used water that contained fluoride.

Will post more on that. Makes perfect sense to me and it supports Mark Purdey's theory as well.

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Prions Complicit In Alzheimer’s Disease / Science News





What is a Prion?

Prion definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms
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Old October 11th, 2009, 11:22 AM
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The Prion theory is just that, a THEORY, it is not proven and if you researched this subject thoroughly you would know that there are likely more who disagree with it as those who agree with it, the theory violates the laws of Science by suggesting that the protein is an entity in itself, just as does the sponge theory, the only difference is the sponge theory explains why this is so, the prion theory does not.

If you apply the sponge theory to what is happening in the Alzheimer's brain it fits perfectly, the normal protein is being replicated by the sponge, this replication becomes the rogue protein.

If they Prion theory is correct then why can't Science advance any further than they have come with this disease? They are going no where because the theory is incorrect and will never be proven.

Science agrees that the plaques associated with alzheimer's look like a sponge, the composition of the plaques are nearly identical to the collagen fibrils produced by the sponge, the neurofibrillary tangles associated with Alzheimer's are identical in size as the spongin-B fibers produced by the sponge and the molecular masses of the proteins associated with these tangles, 68, 64, or 60 kDa, have also been found to be associated with the sponge.

There is simply much more evidence that the sponge is the cause of Alzheimer's than the unproven Prion theory, just because this guy won the Nobel prize for his theory doesn't mean it's right, it's obvious that the individuals who award the prize are a little out of touch with reality when you consider who they just gave the Peace prize to, a man that has done absolutely nothing to deserve it.
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