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Old October 5th, 2009, 05:39 AM
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Sarothra,

You ask about the patents? What I found on the first one:

Process for the Preparation of A Non-Corrosive Base Solution And Methods Of Using Same - Patent Application 20090047267

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Mammalian subjects amenable for treatment according to the formulations and methods of the invention further include, but are not limited to, human and other mammalian subjects in need of antioxidant treatment or ROS reduction or management, including those suffering from conditions associated with or complicated with excess free radicals such as gout, Lesch-Nyhan syndrome, hemochromatosis, Alzheimer's, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, arthritis, atherosclerosis, cancer, cataracts, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, diabetes, coronary artery disease, heart failure, hypertension, inflammatory bowel disease, macular degeneration, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Reynaud's phenomenon, cellulitis, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus , hepatitis C and reperfusion injury. In addition, the compositions of the present invention have proven effective in the treatment of skin conditions such as psoriasis, Morgellons disease, and fungal infections including but not limited to candidiasis, tinea cruris, and tinea pedis.
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Additional therapeutic agents for use within the formulations and methods of the present invention include, but are not limited to, therapeutic agents generally used to treat gout, Lesch-Nyhan syndrome, hemochromatosis, Alzheimer's, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, arthritis, atherosclerosis, cancer, cataracts, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, diabetes, coronary artery disease, heart failure, hypertension, inflammatory bowel disease, macular degeneration, multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's, Reynaud's phenomenon, cellulitis, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus , hepatitis C, reperfusion injury, psoriasis, Morgellons disease, and fungal infections including but not limited to candidiasis, tinea cruris, and tinea pedis.

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Example VI:

Inventor takes the berries of Dwarf Mistletoe, grinds them to a coarse powder then combines with methanol- 80%- with some other ingredients and then goes through some evaporation processes to complete the product. He states the product (invention) is a non-corrosive strong base solution or alkaline water.

Interesting because of all the vendors hyping various (expensive) water on the numerous Morgellons boards.

Also interesting because I found the Dwarf Mistletoe in my research relating to the Phase I- Morgellons study.

What I found- the cycle- fungi/pollen/etc could be related to Dwarf Mistletoe.

Phase I report states that they found:

Parasitized Pine Pollen Grains

found with

*Parasitism of pollen as a nutritional source for lignicolous Basidiomycota and other fungi
(IOW- the pollen is Fungi food- the nematodes- drawn to the Fungi for food- become Fungi
food as well)

* Most likely culprit:
BASIDIOMYCOTA Whittaker, 1959 spore droppers- Phase I report ID'd Basidiomycota

My choice would be:

Hohenbuehelia petaloides, a wood decay fungus that eats nematodes, Tom Volk's Fungus of the Month for August 2000.

Tom Volk's Fungus of the Month for August 2000
This month's fungus is Hohenbuehelia petaloides, a wood decay fungus that eats nematodes





For the cycle- a fungus - like the one below- consumes the Nematodes- this one- has a sticky substance used to entrap the
nematodes and a gel- matrix as well. Fruiting bodies- per the
Phase I check list and carbon- (wood decay fungus)- and have a dense coat of CRYSTALS- seems to fit the bill....

The Dwarf Mistletoe infects the Pine trees - which, in turns triggers the cycle of pollen/fungus/nematodes that weaken trees. The Bark Beetles then inhabit the ailing trees - the next part of the cycle- and eventually kill them.

The mix is spread via birds, animals and wind.

As an aside- the Dwarf Mistletoe is responsible for killing trees in the US and Canada. The Forestry Department is aware that the many fires are caused by this cycle of the Dwarf infesting trees- the pollen/fungus/nematode cycle ending in the Bark Beetles- and other Beetles- that complete the death cycle.

The huge stands of dead trees are then tinder for the many Forest Fires that we have been seeing in western US over the past years.

Lyme-Fiber-Disease - The Cycle that creates Disease & FIBERS

Lyme-Fiber-Disease - Phase I Study- Parasitized Pine Pollen Grains


The Phase I study cycle then could be: fungus/nematodes/pollen eco-system

So I wondered if this invention was a little 'hair of the dog'?

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The last 2 inventions- are UV lights- W John Martin. A poster by the name of Judith was selling his technology a year or two ago. She pulled all her info off the web- most likely because of the patent.


I will comment later on the 2nd listed patent. Getting paged.... paint brush awaiting me.

-V-


PS My comments in Blue
Are you able to pull up Phase I still? last I tried said not available although I did print a copy last last year.

Just wondering if this could invade house plywood sub-floors?
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Old October 5th, 2009, 08:17 AM
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I would imagine that the report is still at the MRF link, cynical.

What I posted is my opinion, via research, on the findings of the report- starting off with
parasitized pine pollen.

As to lumber- it is my opinion that the trees have already been damaged so newer lumber would
already be compromised or infected. Older lumber (prior to the fungus cycle in the trees) would likely not be a problem.

A simple search of 'parasitized pine pollen' lead me to the only pollen that can and does parasitize- and that comes from the Dwarf Mistletoe found on the west coast of the US- going up into Canada (a chief source of lumber) and as far south as Mexico. The east coast counterpart is the European Mistletoe- also found in Europe- hence the name.


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Old October 6th, 2009, 10:09 PM
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Default Re: sarothra, the patents explained

I just took a brief look at the last couple patents that were linked by another poster, and I saw your question about further explanation so here it is.

The last couple posts talked about something called alternative cellular energy which is exactly what it claims, an alternate source of energy in used in a cell.

I did some reading on the subject, which is very scarce, but it seems that these fibers have been noted in different organisms including humans during the rebuilding of cellular damage in tissues. Fibers that are UV active appear, form a network and eventually supply energy to the cell through UV light (in our coming from an engineered UV light or the sun) that soaks into these fibers and produces this network of energy.

Very interesting to say the least. Seems very plausible that this is involved with the evolution and healing process that several individuals as well as myself have experienced only after becoming infected with morgellons and triggering a response. Several individuals including myself experienced the initial itching and irritation caused by heat, sun and sweat, only to find that once the lesions faded, the sun seemd to now assist the healing process instead of hindering it.

Hope this helps. The individual who designed those patents seems to have had the objective of using engineered UV lights to fuel this process at a skin level.

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Nick,

Thanks for expanding on the information in the patent of W John Martin -re: the UV lights.

I heard from 2 people that tried the treatment- one who went to his 'study' a few years back,
which used the full treatment with lights and the essential oils and the other who purchased
the system while it was being sold on the forums. Both said that it did not help them.

I'm a little leary of the UV lights but who is to say? Could be that they didn't give it a chance to work? IOW- use it long enough?

Over the years, many posters on the related forums have praised the work of W John Martin.

He was originally funded by a Chronic Fatigue organization- National CFIDS Foundation.

More here: The National CFIDS Foundation Begins to Disclose its Vital Research Discoveries to the Worldwide Patient Community

There is a mention in this article (above) about Ciguatera. Dr Martin stated (in Summary)
that the Stealth virus associated toxin is present in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (which seems
to be at the heart of most emerging disease).



Googling- I find some interesting reading:


Ciguatera Toxin (Fish Poisoning) Causes, Symptoms, Diagnosis, and Treatment on MedicineNet.com


More here:

Ciguatera and the Fish that cause Ciguatera Poisoning

Looking back- I see that TCM had posted on this in the past:

Dr Martin research - Autism and Stealth viruses & Treatment

As for myself, I'm not a fish eater- never have been but for a tuna sandwich now and then
so I can't say that I would find the connection in sea food- fish for myself.

From my prior threads- you have a good idea of my thoughts on the origination of this
scourge- Vaccines (from consuming animals and milk products- T parva and more) and the
environment- with the VOCs- such as the MTBE/TBA and more and the remediation products for
same in the water and the cycle in nature that distributes the pathogen cocktail- pollen/fungus/nematodes.....

Still, it's good to know that other research exists. A dear friend of mine is gung-ho Dr Martin. She makes some good arguments for his position.

The debate will continue until folk start getting well and I don't personally care who is correct so long as help arrives. Could be Dr Schaller is correct is saying they have found 8-20 causes of
Morgellons? Hopefully there are as many cures?

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Default Debiopharm, Donepezil and Sponges- treatment 4 Alzheimer's

This link mentions Donepezil (Aricept) - found in Patent #2- first post and as well- mentions Palinurin and tricantin, substances extracted from a marine sponge, as inhibitors (cure?).

What you need to know about the link between Heavy Metal Aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease/Dementia -



The CURE/S ? ONE FROM A MARINE SPONGE
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I believe aluminum & chem-trails (aerosol crimes) are a direct link to Alzheimer's disease The "HOLMESTEAD" - Chemtrails: aluminum and health. , more than sponges.

The brain does not recognize aluminum as a heavy metal.

I'm sorry for everyone that has a loved one suffering from Alzheimer's. It is a life lesson for everyone involved.

Aerosol Crimes

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Default Marine sponge extract- Alzheimers treatment

Jonsi,

Sorry to confuse. My above post was not stating that a sponge was the pathogen- rather a potential treatment/cure.

What you need to know about the link between Heavy Metal Aluminum and Alzheimer's Disease/Dementia -
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United States Patent: 7595328

Methods of use of quinolone compounds against pneumococcal and Haemophilus bacteria
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I believe aluminum & chem-trails (aerosol crimes) are a direct link to Alzheimer's disease The "HOLMESTEAD" - Chemtrails: aluminum and health. , more than sponges.

The brain does not recognize aluminum as a heavy metal.

I'm sorry for everyone that has a loved one suffering from Alzheimer's. It is a life lesson for everyone involved.

Aerosol Crimes

Peace, love,
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What do you have to back up this belief Jonsi? I'm speaking specifically about your comment linking Alzheimers to chemtrails and not just to aluminum, What evidence do you have that would suggest that aluminum is linked to chemtrails? In fact what evidence do you have that would suggest anything found in an analysis of the environment is the result of chemtrails? Do you think that just because something is found in the atmosphere that it must have been put there by a jet spewing out chemicals? Where is the link? Where is the evidence? Bacteria is found in clouds, does this mean that it was put there by a jet as well? Even if you were tinkerbell flying directly behind a jet and collecting samples to be analyzed you still would have no evidence that what you were collecting wasn't already in the atmosphere before the jet flew through it. The fact of the matter is there is absolutely ZERO evidence that anything found in the atmosphere is the result of chemtrails, none, nada, this is someones unsubstantiated opinion which means nothing.

On the other hand we have the sponge which is capable of forming amyloid substances and depositing them in great quantities, Alzheimers plaques are made up of a protein called B-amyloid protein, this is a link and there are more links between Alzheimers and the sponge like the fact that aluminum is also found in the sponge as well as many other heavy metals, and there are still more links between the two Jonsi but I'll save those for when you decide to debate me on this subject.

So what do you have that links Alzheimers to chemtrails Jonsi, other than a useless opinion?

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