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Old September 11th, 2009, 01:19 PM
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Default Fiber study by clinical microbiologist

This is a five year old study of Morgellons-fiber materials, conducted by a microbiologist named Jenny Haverty. She used clinical techniques to make certain determinations, such as the non-presence of fungal material.
I'm bringing it up again because it deserves another look, as it is one of the few studies conducted by qualified scientists using material from multiple subjects:

Fiber Study Summary

Morgellons Fiber Study Summary
- Jenny Haverty, Clinical Microbiologist Scientist



Date: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:32 PM

Following are microscopic observations of specimens of unknown fibers
taken from four individuals suffering from a condition known as
Morgellons disease.

The participants are:

(full names indicate participants who have granted full permission to publish)

Julie Karnes - who lives in San Francisco, California
Cindy G. Casey, RN - an intensive care nurse living in Sausalito, California
Murphy - an artist & musician living in Oakland, California
Wendy E. Tripp - a veterinary technician living in San Jose, California

All of these cities are in the San Francisco Bay Area in Northern California.

The descriptions are using a light microscope (Nikon LABOPHOT-2), 400x
lens, and a Leitz fluorescent microscope (LABORLUX D), using an ultraviolet light
source with a 330 to 380 um excitation filter and a 420 um barrier filter.

The fibers were not observed to contain septa.
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Julie, collected fibers from her calves in March, 2004.
I teased the fibers, and mounted them on a glass slide in sterile
saline (PSS). Using the 400x lens (light microscope) the following were
observed:

Red fibers 48.64 microns wide
Clear fibers 23.04 microns wide
Black fibers 28.16 microns wide
Clear slender fibers with prong like structures 7.68 microns wide
Red to red & black fibers with an internal structure that resembled
ladder-like rungs, 17.92 microns wide

Her sample also included hair, which measured from 51.2 to 74.24
microns wide. Looking at her sample of collected fibers before teasing them apart,
some appeared to have a thick black speck in the center of the long strands of fibers.
I mounted the speck directly on a glass slide (I had to cut the long fibers to separate
the speck from the "mass" of fibers), added saline and a coverslip, and under 400x
it was comprised only of extremely tangled black fibers.

I then examined the sample described above using the fluorescent
microscope (unstained in saline). The majority of the fibers were
extremely bright aqua autofluorescent. The black and red fibers did
not autofluoresce.

I then made a preparation of fibers in 20% KOH and Calcofluor stain (a
stain used to observe fungi...yeast and hyphal elements of fungal organisms
fluoresce bright apple green using a fluorescent microscope in the ultraviolet range).
The fibers did not pick up the Calcofluor stain...they were the same
bright aqua autofluorescent color as observed in saline, along with the
black and red fibers as observed above. I also observed some hair in
this preparation, which did not fluoresce.
__________________________________________________ __________________

Cindy and her husband came to my hospital lab on August 12, 2004 and I
collected a very small sample from a skin lesion on her arm. I
cultured the material from the lesion using fungal culture media
(Sabouroud dextrose agar, Mycosel agar, and BHI agar with blood and
antibiotics), incubated at 30 degrees Celsius for four weeks. The
result was negative for fungal growth, with a light amount of skin
bacteria observed. There was not enough specimen for microscopic
examination.

Cindy brought additional skin lesion samples for a repeat fungal
culture and microscopic examination on August 31, 2004. I cultured one sample using
fungal culture media. The culture was also negative for fungal growth at four weeks.

The same sample obtained on 8/31/04 was observed following teasing in
saline as described above using the light microscope to have:

Clear fibers 12.8 microns to 20.48 microns wide
Blue fibers 15.36 microns wide

Using the fluorescent microscope, the fibers showed all bright aqua
autofluorescent fibers with rare black non-fluorescent fibers observed.

Cindy also gave me a sample that had been collected on August 30, 2004
for microscopic observation. Using the light microscope I observed:

red fibers 15.36 to 17.92 microns wide
blue fibers 30.72 microns wide
clear tubular fibers 7.68 microns wide
clear ribbon-like fibers 15.36 microns wide
black fibers 12.8 microns wide

In addition, I found rare spore-like structures that were football
shaped, 12.8 microns long, some of which had a septate-like division across the center.
Also found were very rare structures slightly resembling the asymmetrical spores of
Alternaria species (a fungus)...these were 48.64 microns long
(Alternaria spores are 7 to 10 microns wide and 23-34 microns long).
These structures were both amber colored.
I also observed needle-like structures resembling crystals in this sample.
__________________________________________________ ______________________

Murphy sent me prepared microscopic slides of fibers from several skin
lesions. Using the light microscope observed were in summary:

blue fibers 23.04 microns wide (some of which were ribbon-like)
red fibers 12.8 microns wide
black fibers 23.04 to 30.72 microns wide
clear fibers 15.36 microns wide
large clear fibers 33.28 microns wide

Using the fluorescent microscope, each sample autofluoresced bright
aqua blue, with darker fibers non-fluorescing.
__________________________________________________ _____________________

Wendy sent two samples. The first sample, fibers from her torso, were
collected on September 29, 2004. Using the light microscope, these showed:

black ribbon-like fibers, 25.7 microns wide
clear tubular fibers 12.8 microns wide
blue fibers 15.36 microns wide
red ribbon-like fibers 12.8 to 25.6 microns wide
brown fibers with ladder-like rungs 12.8 microns wide
brown fibers with prong-like structures along the sides 3.84 to 10.24
microns wide

The above sample had a predominance of the black fibers described above.


A second sample (also from torso) collected on October 7, 2004 showed
the same types of fibers as described above with the addition of:

brown fibers with ladder-like rungs 33.28 microns wide

Using the fluorescent microscope, observed were bright aqua
autofluorescent fibers, with black and red non-fluorescing fibers.
__________________________________________________ ____________________

In summary:

There were many similarities in fibers from all four individuals, both
in size and color. All samples showed bright aqua autofluorescence using the fluorescent
microscope, with red and black non fluorescent fibers.

The fibers collected from these four individuals from different
counties of the San Francisco Bay Area are so similar to each other
that the causative agent may be epidemiologically the same.

Respectively submitted,

Jenny Haverty
Clinical Microbiologist Scientist
Marin General Hospital
Greenbrae, California

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Old September 14th, 2009, 06:25 PM
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Thanks Sadsack

- I've put the main findings from Haverty's fiber analysis in a table.

Morgellons fiber results - Haverty 2004

- Interesting that the clear and blue fibers were the only ones fluorescing and all of them bright aqua blue.

- Also, all fibers were between approx 5 - 34 microns wide.

Anyone who's following the possibility that morgs could be caused by insect larvae, may be interested to research the widths of the internal workings of fly larvae.

Key words to google - 'midgut', 'malphigian tubules', er...more ideas here: http://www.morgellonsuk.org.uk/image...ae_anatomy.gif

cheers

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Old November 8th, 2009, 09:16 AM
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Jo -

I should have complimented you on the job you did on the summary table.
I attempted to copy it to this site, but all I got were all the embedded instructions.

Do you know how to do "WYSIWYG"?

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Old November 8th, 2009, 09:44 AM
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Default Thank You SS...

for bringing something up again.

This is a good thing to do because for newcomers and myself, who has been here for almost a year now, sometimes things which have been posted long before we got here we don't always find.

I know my mind was so boggled I didn't even know WHAT to search for, to say the least. It had been awhile since I had been on a message board and I had to learn that all over again, and they have changed in years.

Again, thank you so much and if you ever think of posting something again which has been posted in the past but decide not to, please send me a PM with the info or email me.. I would be so very appreciative of this.

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