Aetiology site

[Kritters]

Has anyone seen this site? I was doing some googling and came across it. I wonder it is the same Tara who used to contribute here? I wish she were still here, actually.

Kritts

Followup to Morgellons post--link to Collembola? : Aetiology

[Sadsack]

Kritters -

Thank you for finding and posting that site!! I am going to spend a little time over there, but my first take is that it hasn't been kept up to date. HOWEVER - I saw this link there:
http://www.headlice.org/report/research/jnyes.pdf

I have read ABOUT that research many times, but it is the first time I actually read the article....yes, it was published in 2004...and though it does not refer to the participants as having "M", the description of them is clearly M.

This was a well done research article and I wonder why so many people don't reference the link rather than trying to make an argument for finding collembola without this piece of proof.

SS

[Sadsack]

OK, the site is still up but focuses on many different topics.

This is who Tara Smith is:

Tara C. Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and

Profile

I doubt very much that she was ever on this site. Seems to be very busy, with many interests, author of three books.

SS

[Katinka]

Kritters, Sadsack, thank you for posting this...have never read these articles before..very interesting...

So...there seems to be a collembola infection also involved...In fact now that I think about it I also found collembola (now that I know what they look like) in my bathroom sink after combing my hair...I thought by then they were dust/book lice...always wondered were they came from but thought since I have thousands of books...hmm...

Another thing is I was working in the garden and removed a manure stock with moist, hot soil covered with fungus shortly before I got M..!!

Is this insect also part of the whole scenario?

Kat

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by Katinka

Kritters, Sadsack, thank you for posting this...have never read these articles before..very interesting...

So...there seems to be a collembola infection also involved...In fact now that I think about it I also found collembola (now that I know what they look like) in my bathroom sink after combing my hair...I thought by then they were dust/book lice...always wondered were they came from but thought since I have thousands of books...hmm...

Another thing is I was working in the garden and removed a manure stock with moist, hot soil covered with fungus shortly before I got M..!!

Is this insect also part of the whole scenario?

Kat

[Sadsack]

Hey - Katinka -

Collembola gets mentioned a lot. I believe I've seen them twice on me.

One possible explanation is that they love to eat decaying matter...so maybe they are attracted to fungus or other decay in our skin.

So we keep "backing up". It seems like it's one "infection" piled on top of another.

From the study mentioned above:

In the current study, in which pains were taken to avoid sample contamination, there were
over 300 anomalous findings in skin scrapings from the 20 symptomatic study participants
and none from controls. These findings included pollen, conidia or spores, hyphae, mycelium,
algae or fibers, clumped skin or cellular debris, an occasional nematode, and what appeared to
be insect eggs, larvae or embryos. These collective anomalies point to the compromised skin
of most of the symptomatic study participants, and could directly or indirectly (through an
immune or allergic response) produce sensations of stinging/biting and/or crawling, as well as

some of the other symptoms.

This really upholds the thought that we each have our distinct set of pathogens, probably related to our individual environments. But WHY do WE have these pathogens, while non-Morgies have none??? SOMETHING HAPPENED TO CHANGE US SO THAT WE ARE ATTRACTING THESE PATHOGENS (AND THAT PROBABLY INCLUDES AGROBACTERIA).

I don't think these individual pathogens (300 found) are causes, but are consequences of one single something or other that we are experienced, probably many years before we knew something was definitely wrong.

Just my own speculation.

SS

[mmarsha]

Originally Posted by Kritters

Has anyone seen this site? I was doing some googling and came across it. I wonder it is the same Tara who used to contribute here? I wish she were still here, actually.

Kritts

Followup to Morgellons post--link to Collembola? : Aetiology

Hi Kritter's, I have went and checked out this link, and it is a pretty good site with good info. Thank you for putting it out here.
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