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Old July 25th, 2009, 06:53 PM
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Has anyone seen this? I just came across it and it was on less than three hours ago. Maybe someone in Pacific Time can catch it:




Jul 25, 4:00 pm
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Dr. G: Medical Examiner
Deadly Doses
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A woman is itching all over her body and takes a half a bottle of antihistamine to treat it. At the hospital, she starts having seizures and dies.



I'm really curious about what was itching her so much that she took a fatal overdose, and wonder if there was anything mentioned about that in the show.

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Old July 25th, 2009, 07:00 PM
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From a post May, 2008--Herpes Simplex 1 and Dr. G: Medical Examiner, Discovery Health:

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I do not usually watch this show as frankly it bothers me to watch someone doing autopsies, even if most of it is staged afterwards and names are changed to protect those living and those who have passed. It was the ad for this particular show which intrigued me and so I wound up watching this episode. It involved a young woman who had lesions all over her body. This particular ME is based in Orlando, FL. Florida, which as all here know, is one of the three "hot spot" for morgellons cases. Here is the online information which describes the episode (although it was only the first half of this hour show):

"Dr. G: Medical Examiner
Kiss of Death?
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Dr. G encounters one of the most bizarre cases of her career when the body of a young woman arrives in the morgue covered in unexplained lesions. Her conclusion as to the real cause of the woman's death shocks everyone involved - including Dr. G."

At first this ME thought the young woman had died of chicken pox. Lesions were all over her body (unexpected by the ME from the hospital's report which merely said something about sores on her face) which indicated a herpes type of infection, pattern wise. Her liver had failed as the infection had infiltrated it so much that it became enlarged and no longer worked. This was ultimately the cause of death, but what intrigued the ME was the fact that this was not caused by Varicella (the herpes virus which causes chicken pox and shinles), but by herpes simplex 1, the type which causes cold sores.

The young woman herself had reported that she felt the infection came from a kiss from a person she met in a bar. This man had apparently bitten her. The ME looked for a bite but found no evidence of this on the young woman. So she put that aside, at least for the time being. This virus had so overwhelmed the young woman's body that her teeth were loose and the mucosa inside the mouth was sloughing off.

She had gone to a doctor about five days after being in this bar, with a fever and nausea. The doctor assumed she had a bacterial infection and treated her with antibiotics. She rapidly became more ill and was admitted to the hospital, where she subsequently died. At one point in her life she had had cervical cancer, but had to have all her female reproductive organs removed. Still the ME wondered how a herpes simplex 1 infection could have overwhelmed her immune system like that. Usually this infection is confined to the areas around the mouth face and is not often systemic. She had already checked the young woman for HIV, but the test had come back negative. Then she made sure the cancer had not recurred as that could also explain a lowered immune system. That was negative as well.

So she was back to square one, which indicated that possibly, since this type of herpes is spread by saliva, the young woman had been right. The kiss and the bite which the young woman reported could have caused her to catch this particular version of a herpes infection. Still the ME had no way to explain why this infection would become so virulent in her system. Generally there are only about 21 cases a year world wide with such an outcome.

And this leaves me wondering if the foods we eat have viruses in them and can cause a lowered immune system, making an exposure to a similar virus through saliva more deadly and pervasive throughout the body. It appears our immune systems are constantly being lowered by low levels of antibiotics in food of all kinds, both meat, dairy and perhaps the new angle, the produce and grain questions. Perhaps explaining in part why antibiotics are ever less effective. We are all becoming more familiar with what is happening in the GMO arena. There are many questions about actual food safety in so many areas of food production. Many questions and so few verified answers to them.

The ME had never seen a case like this and was sure she would never see another one like it. Me? I am not so sure she is even close to right about that.
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Old July 25th, 2009, 07:11 PM
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Actually, I have seen that episode. It was looking for the name of it (because of the other thread on Herpes) that I came across the episode on the itchy woman.

She must have been frantically itchy to take so many antihistamines, and I really wonder if Dr. G determined what was making her so itchy (I have not see this episode).

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Old July 25th, 2009, 07:39 PM
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A 36-year-old woman experiencing inexplicable itching all over her body overdoses on antihistamines. The woman appears to be fine for a time at the hospital, but then she goes into cardiac arrest and dies. Dr. G discovers from the woman's medical history that the woman had lupus, an autoimmune disease. Dr. G tries to find out whether the overdose caused the woman's death, or if the woman died of a complication of her condition.
A 50-year-old woman collapses at home and dies in the hospital. The woman had been experiencing chronic pain for years due to injuries received in a car accident. The woman experienced depression due to the pain, making suicide a possible cause of death. It's up to Dr. G to find out if the woman took her life, accidentally overdosed on her pain medication, or died in some other way.


This website lists when this episode may be seen next on Discovery Health in Florida:


Dr G: Medical Examiner: Season 4 Episode 6 | LocateTV
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Old July 25th, 2009, 08:29 PM
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Well, aren't you quite the detective? lol

This case really is suspicious, especially since lupus seems to be one of those pre-cursor diagnoses.

Three a.m.....hmmm...do I stay up late or get up early???

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Hi SS,

I think most people have ways to record shows which are on at an inconvenient hour. Sorry if you don't.

I expect that autoimmune issues are involved in Morgellons. Probably more than one type is and varies from person to person.

CD3girls reported a skin lupus problem and was treated with plaquenil. Here's a page on the skin variety from the lupus foundation:

LUPUS FOUNDATION OF AMERICA

CD3girls thread about this medication.

One word: plaquenil
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