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Old June 27th, 2009, 04:55 PM
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Thanks Katinka-

Also new- and ties Radiation Syndrome to Fiber symptoms

Cutaneous Radiation Syndrome (skin) & the Progressions Chronic Radiation Syndrome:


Cutaneous Radiation Syndrome - REMM

The abstract mentions depth of exposure (dermis/epidermis)
* Density of blood vessels and lymphatics
* Presence/density of skin appendages- sweat & sebaceous glands and
Hair follicles....
* Poorly healing skin injuries
* Pain management

* Management of pruritis (Itching)
* Exercises for joints and soft tissues

Complications:

* Microbial infection

* Hair and nail changes (loss of hair follicles)

* Swelling, poor wound healing, local necrosis

* Joint contrature and loss of mobility

* Lentiginous (freckle-like) changes- hyper & hypo pigmentation

* basal cell and Squamous cell carcinomas

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Seems to sum up what is happening to us- even to the fact that initially- there is THYROID damage- which is common to those with
this condition.

So- if the PCB's are air-born and causing this phenomenon- or if
the Remediation techniques that include the use of Hollow- fibers
and Liquid membranes (that formula too was from Monsanto)...

it seems like this condition is Chronic Radiation Syndrome

It explains all the symptoms, the fibers, the source/s and the
fact that this condition leads to cancer in some people.
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There is a group that explores the various sources of Radiation and the consequences in terms of health effects. Downwinders (link below)

The Boomers - those born between 1946 and 1964- seem to be the hardest hit in terms of the consequences.

One KEY- is Thyroid issues. Hypo/Hyper-thyroidism

Radiation from Nuke tests (in the western US) and various companies
are the sources.

Another clue- hair loss.

Lack of Iodine and Silica Can Create Hair Loss

Lack of Iodine and Silica Can Create Hair Loss (cause, link below)

My name is Vina K

Excerpt:

I have filed safety complaints since 1983 hoping that I would be able to work in a safe place. But, as a result of my complaining I lost my job at Goodyear Atomic and Martin Marietta, and now United State Enrichment Corporation but even more devastating, I lost my health. I have had three tumors removed, a total hysterectomy, one tumor from the back of my neck removed, Chemical Bronchitis, shortness of breath, thyroid problems, rashes, loss of hair, irritable bowels, allergies, stomach problems, chemical depression, Gastro-intestinal upset memory loss, Osteoarthritis, fibromyalia, Organic brain syndrome secondary to TCE exposure, and Fume/vapor Reps Diseases. In the last two years, I have fallen and broken my left ankle. I later fell and broke the pins in the same ankle and pulled ligaments in my right knee. I also fell and broke my cheekbone on the right side. Now, remember when I went to work at the Gaseous Diffusion Plant I was a healthy worker. The plant gave me a physical and only hired healthy workers

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Mini recap:


Skin Absorption and Damage from PCBs - same as Fiber Disease aka Morgellons

Skin Absorption and Damage from PCBs



Cutaneous Radiation Syndrome - REMM


Same symptoms -


My name is Vina K

Downwinders- is an organization devoted to those with symptoms - from exposure to Radiation -
chemical and radioactive exposure.

Welcome to Downwinders



Eureka!


Post- Radiation Syndrome and Chronic Fatigue syndrome- SAME



Increased oxidative stress suggested by low serum ...[Int J Cardiol. 2008] - PubMed Result


Tuesday, February 3rd, 2009

Post-radiation syndrome as a NO/ONOO(-) cycle, chronic fatigue syndrome-like disease

Pall ML.

School of Molecular Biosciences, Washington State University, Pullman, WA 99164-4234, USA.

Med Hypotheses. 2008 Jul 28.

Post-radiation syndrome is proposed to be chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) or a chronic fatigue syndrome-like illness, initiated by exposure to ionizing radiation.

This view is supported by the nitric
oxide/peroxynitrite (NO/ONOO(-)) cycle mechanism, the putative etiologic mechanism for CFS and related illnesses. Ionizing radiation may initiate illness by increasing nitric oxide levels via increased
activity of the transcription factor NF-kappaB and consequent increased synthesis of the inducible nitric oxide synthase. Two types of components of the nitric oxide/peroxynitrite cycle have been
studied in post-radiation syndrome patients and shown to be elevated. The symptoms and signs of post-radiation syndrome and its chronicity are similar or identical to those of chronic fatigue syndrome and can be explained as being a consequence of nitric oxide/peroxynitrite cycle etiology. While the data available to test this view are limited, it provides for the first time a comprehensive explanation
for post-radiation syndrome.








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Post-radiation syndrome is proposed to be chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) or a chronic fatigue syndrome-like illness, initiated by exposure to ionizing radiation.

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5 Brilliant Scientists/doctors got together on this. Dr Pall:

Nitric Oxide Cycle Theory: Will It Explain CFS, FM, and Other ‘Unexplained’ Illnesses? - Q&A with Martin L. Pall, PhD


The fifth principle, the one that most sufferers as well as most physicians should find of the most interest, is how to treat these illnesses.

We should treat these by lowering (down-regulating) the NO/ONOO- cycle biochemistry. In other words we need to treat the cause of illness, not just the symptoms.


Q: We understand you have designed a protocol that is available over-the-counter, is that right?

Dr. Pall: Yes, I have designed [working with a leading supplement research company] an approach to down-regulating the NO/ONOO- cycle biochemistry that involves only over-the-counter supplements. [See "Antioxidant Suggestions for Down-Regulation of the NO/ONOO- Cycle from Dr. Martin Pall, PhD".]
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Nitric Oxide Cycle Theory: Will It Explain CFS, FM, and Other ‘Unexplained’ Illnesses? - Q&A with Martin L. Pall, PhD

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Excerpt:
Five physicians have produced complex treatment protocols having 14 or more agents predicted to down-regulate the NO/ONOO- cycle biochemistry, and these complex protocols appear to be much more effective than are the individual agents. It is these complex combinations of agents that have the most promise in the treatment of these illnesses. Most of these agents are nutritional, but some are conventional pharmaceuticals and some are “herbals.” [Dr. Pall refers to protocols developed by Dr. Paul Cheney, Dr. Garth Nicolson, Dr. Noboysa (Nash) Petrovic, Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum, and Dr. Grace Ziem. Dr. Pall has cooperated with Dr. Ziem in his own efforts to evolve a protocol.]

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Will try and find all the protocols- Dr Nicolson:

http://www.immed.org/publications/Ni...eJCFS_copy.pdf
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Increased oxidative stress suggested by low serum ...[Int J Cardiol. 2008] - PubMed Result

Post-radiation syndrome is proposed to be chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) or a chronic fatigue syndrome-like illness, initiated by exposure to ionizing radiation.

Fair use

Excerpt:
This view is supported by the nitric
oxide/peroxynitrite (NO/ONOO(-)) cycle mechanism,
the putative etiologic mechanism for CFS and related illnesses. Ionizing radiation may initiate illness by increasing nitric oxide levels via increased
activity of the transcription factor NF-kappaB and consequent increased synthesis of the inducible nitric oxide synthase. Two types of components of the nitric oxide/peroxynitrite cycle have been
studied in post-radiation syndrome patients and shown to be elevated

end

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So we see that Post Radiation Syndrome is the same as Chronic
Fatigue per the above abstract/proposed theory and the cause is the increased NITRIC OXIDE levels...
.



This PhD supports that theory and adds:




Post-radiation syndrome as a NO/ONOO(-) cycle, chronic fatigue syndrome-like disease - Source: Medical Hypotheses, Jul 29, 2008
by Martin L. Pall, PhD
August 4, 2008

[Note: The full text of this article is available on the Co-Cure listserv site.]

Excerpt:
Post-radiation syndrome is proposed to be chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) or a chronic fatigue syndrome-like illness, initiated by exposure to ionizing radiation.

This view is supported by the nitric oxide/peroxynitrite (NO/ONOO(-)) cycle mechanism, the putative etiologic mechanism for CFS and related illnesses.*

Ionizing radiation may initiate illness by increasing nitric oxide levels via increased activity of the transcription factor NF-kappaB and consequent increased synthesis of the inducible nitric oxide synthase.

[Some sources of ionizing radiation include X-rays, gamma rays, radon, atomic weapons test fallout. Types of radiant energy that are not ionizing include microwaves, radio waves, UV light and visible light, according to the World Health Organization.]

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Another MD concurs:

CO-CURE Archives -- August 2008, week 1 (#30)

Cure/protocol next....
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Another doctor affiliated with the above research:

Levels of Lipid Peroxidation, Nitric Oxide, and Antioxidant Vitamins in Plasma of Patients with Fibromyalgia

Levels of Lipid Peroxidation, Nitric Oxide, and Antioxidant Vitamins in Plasma of Patients with Fibromyalgia


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The Pall Protocol - Treating Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - Treating Fibromyalgia


NUTRIC OXIDE CYCLE THEORY

Nitric Oxide Cycle Theory: Will It Explain CFS, FM, and Other Illnesses?
Q&A with Martin L. Pall, PhD


Nitric oxide along with it's product-- Peroxynitrite (oxidant) initiates a
biochemical cycle- which causes illness.

Stressors- raise levels of nitric oxide or other cycle elements

(4 other principles/causes at above link)

To treat- NO- must be lowered or down-regulated in order to treat the cause of the illness rather than just the symptoms

He mentions NF-kappa B- which turns on the inflammatory cytokine genes- that encode the
inducible NO synthase (iNOS).....

He suggests that MS, tinnitus, alzheimer's, Parkinson's, MLS, Asthma are associated with this process in addition to CFS and FM


**The Treatment - for the NO- for Post Radiation Syndrome and CFS-


Dr Pall refers to protocols developed by Dr Paul Cheney, Dr Garth Nicolson, Dr Jacob Teitlebaum, Dr Noboysa (Nash) Petrovic and Dr Grace Ziem
as a treatment for this syndrome.

Will post additional protocols- per above research.

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Dr. Paul Cheney: CFS & Cardiac Issues: Part 1a

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The Heart of the Matter:

CFS & Cardiac Issues

aaemonline.org Blog Chronic Fatigue Syndrome :: The American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM)

The Pall Protocol - Treating Chronic Fatigue Syndrome - Treating Fibromyalgia

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