Hormones

[gigi22]

I am not sure where to put this, or whether this has been discussed before, but what role do you think hormones play in all of this?

I know my hormones are all out of whack. I got tested, and my seratonin is extremely low (half of the low end of normal), my progesterone is low and adrenal functioning is low as well...

[jonsi]

Hi gigi,

Personally, I don't think my body's natural hormones have been affected by "M". I can tell you what day my period will start in Dec '10 within 2 days, give or take.

I tried the pill (birth control) back in the '80's and my body couldn't handle the side affects after using it for 2 months or so. Did you ever use birth control pills?

Anything pharmaceutical will affect us in a bad way.

How old are you? (I'm 49) Are you going through menopause? I don't think "M" is causing your hormonal imbalance.

In the white light,
~jonsi

[lamb]

Beg to disagree. I think hormones.. or their decline set me up for this. I think that's why more women than men are affected and I hope and pray that for those of you becoming menopausal that you pay attention to your system.

[Katinka]

Not sure, if M has something to do with hormones..or changing hormones...hmm...not menopausal and still have 'it'! But there could be a relationship to Serotonin levels...??
Katinka

[gigi22]

I am not menopausal, but I didn't mean to say that M causes hormones to go out of whack, but I believe it plays a part in setting us up to be symptomatic (at least in my case). I have suffered from *extremely* low seratonin and low adrenals for a very long time due, I believe, to chronic stress. This has to have an impact on the immune system.

I've done a lot of reading on candida and many people say that going on antidepressants helped their yeast symptoms. I've read that seratonin is a fungal fighter.. so those with low seratonin could possibly benefit from boosting it? If it helps with yeast, then it might help with the fungal aspect of M as well... Just a thought. It would be good for everyone to have their hormone levels checked anyway..

I'm not suggesting that everyone should go and take an antidepressant.. however.. I have just started taking the amino acid called 5-HTP to help with mine. I'm taking it for depression, but I thought it would be beneficial in fighting this thing. So, I guess we shall see if it helps all the way around....
I also believe that making sure the adrenal glands are working adequately would be a factor in recovery as well.... but that's another thing I have to work on...

Below.. copied from: Serotonin - Can Fight Fungus

Serotonin - Can Fight Fungus
By Stephen Pincock (Reuters Health)
SOURCE: Journal of Medical Microbiology 2003;52:169-171.


The neurotransmitter serotonin could form the basis of new antifungal drugs, according to researchers who have shown in the lab that serotonin can kill one type of fungus that frequently infects humans.

Two years ago, the University of Innsbruck team showed that antidepressants called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs) could also inhibit fungi.

Serotonin seemed to suppress the symptoms of vaginal candidiasis, or yeast infection, in women. The patients found they had no flare-ups of the yeast infection while taking Zoloft to treat premenstrual dysphoric disorder, but when they stopped taking the drug the infection returned.

"My colleague who had these patients asked me to test the antifungal effect of sertraline," all hindered the growth of Aspergillus and Candida species.

Fungi belonging to the Candida family are responsible for yeast infections, and can also cause thrush, an infection of the mouth and throat.

Aspergillus fungi can also infect humans.

Because (SSRIs) increase serotonin levels during treatment, the researchers tested serotonin directly against a range of Candida species.

The researchers report in this month's issue of the Journal of Medical Microbiology that serotonin was active against all four species tested.

[Kritters]

Originally Posted by gigi22

I am not sure where to put this, or whether this has been discussed before, but what role do you think hormones play in all of this?

I know my hormones are all out of whack. I got tested, and my seratonin is extremely low (half of the low end of normal), my progesterone is low and adrenal functioning is low as well...

Sorry Gigi...that just popped into my head....old stupid joke...(I hope none of our members was/is a..... 'mone')

Anywho...here's one thread I started expressing my feeling on that. Very observant of you I think!

Hormones and disease

xoKritts

[spotted dog]

Ha Ha Kritts is back, hope you're feeling happier.

My M started at age 53, so could be hormonal, but why the wiggling worms?eggs? fibres? I think its a fungal parasite living in dirty water or earth.....Spotty.....

[Kritters]

Thanks Spots..I do for now. I just listened to Eckhart Tolle while walked the beach in the sun (which has since left the building ;-) and he has such a peaceful way of telling you to cut the chit

No, I don't think it IS the cause of Morgellons or other diseases, but can play a role. It has an effect on our bodies and predisposition to disease (alone with other factors) that I think compromises our immune systems and invites decay. I think there is more to hormone involvement than they know.

Hey, how's THAT for a positive outlook huh? ;-)

xoxoxoxo
Kritts

[jonsi]

I've taken Zoloft (1997 for post traumatic syndrome... someone tried to kill me) Extascy in '03 The thought process surrounding ecstasy lies in what it does in the brain of an individual. Serotonin, a common chemical released by the brain plays an active part in everything that we do, from sleeping to eating, relaxing to walking. During all of those activities, serotonin is released. Under the influence of ecstasy, these serotonin chemicals are released in very large amounts. This is what leads to people thinking that they are happier and seeing things in "a new light". Other chemicals, such as dopamine, are also released in large amounts and took Cymbalta in 2005/06. The Cymbalta made me gain 50 pounds... It took me three years to loose the weight.

Stay away from any chemicals! I still believe "M" has more to do with toxins than hormones. I'm not saying that "M" can affect our hormonal structure...


Q. How do you make a hormone??
A. Don't pay her. (my bad)


in the white light,
~jonsi

[gigi22]

yes.. we need to stay away from a lot of the pharmaceuticals - did you know that alot of the drugs we take, especially a lot of the antidepressants, contain large amounts of FLUORIDE??? This is so the drug can cross the blood-brain barrier. This is poisonous to our systems and accumulates in the receptors that should be taken up by iodine - what the thyroid needs (at least this is what I have read). It can also cause other damage (brittle bones, damaged tendons, and joint problems).
I believe with the last antibiotic I took, it was the fluoride I had a really adverse reaction to. My system just couldn't take any more toxins....