I have a new idea....

[sarothra]

Hi everyone,

Been absent for quite awhile - bedridden practically - unbearable fatigue and horrific pain especially where the nematodes have traveled along the nerve in my mouth.

Actually had oral surgery to remove 2 worms - I told the dentist they were nematodes and explained at length how I knew that. He was young and open-minded and accepted my view of my own body and that I knew what was going on in my body. He numbed up the 2 main nerves where the biggest worms were and extracted lots of debris. It felt better afterward - a tremendous relief - and I think the novacaine and/or the surgery killed a few of them. It helped a lot.

My idea is this:

1. A significant pathogen in Morgellons is a nematode.

2. Nematodes require bacteria to digest their food. (us)

3. The only way this worm can eat is if it has this bacteria in its body.

4. We can rid this worm of the bacteria it needs to survive by taking antibiotics.

5. We would have to take the antibiotics long enough to immerse our tissues in the antibiotic. Then, when the worm eats us, it gets the antibiotic, can't digest food, and starves to death.



I've been taking Doxycycline for about a week and the cherry red color on my arms is turning more normal blood color.

My mouth is better...

This is a preliminary idea - but since Ivermectin doesn't seem to work (the nematode is immune to it because it's been used a lot) - the antibiotic makes sense.

I am all for natural ways, and if someone can fight this bacteria using natural antibacterials, that may work too. But for myself, I want the big guns, the big medicine, because I have been absolutely miserable.

Any thoughts on my ideas on the antibiotics killing the worm and healing us?

[lamb]

Having taken both drugs simultaneously, I would think the nematodes would be more inclined to be immune to the doxycycline, as it is the more commonly used drug. I have felt better since taking a dose of Ivermectin but I am far from symptom free...who really knows? This whole thing is completely insane from the get go!!
Hope you are feeling better and that the pain subsides with each day.

P.S. I am more inclined to think that I have an arthropod, Collembola to be exact.

[Sadsack]

Sarothra -
I am dying to hear what the dentist had to say!!! What was his reaction when he took that stuff out??? Did you use the word "Morgellons"?
SS

[Dove]

Thanks for the info. Sure glad you are feeling better. The more I post the less functional I become so I find it necessary to limit the time I spend doing that.

I need to write down what I take and when. I have accumulated an herbal apothecary and sometimes I hit on a combination that works wonders. Reading your posts struck a chord and it may be the antibacterial herbs with the "EmergenC" electrolite drink.

Also, recently I took some of my Elderberry caplets to strengthen my resistence to the flu which is an antiviral that works on some types of this malady.

[Sadsack]

Dove -
Elderberry is an excellent idea!! Everyone should take it. Also Lysine, also antiviral.
In what way does being online make you worse? Is it touching the computer, or more the thinking about it more, etc.?
SS

[bigdad]

Originally Posted by sarothra

Hi everyone,

Been absent for quite awhile - bedridden practically - unbearable fatigue and horrific pain especially where the nematodes have traveled along the nerve in my mouth.

Actually had oral surgery to remove 2 worms - I told the dentist they were nematodes and explained at length how I knew that. He was young and open-minded and accepted my view of my own body and that I knew what was going on in my body. He numbed up the 2 main nerves where the biggest worms were and extracted lots of debris. It felt better afterward - a tremendous relief - and I think the novacaine and/or the surgery killed a few of them. It helped a lot.

My idea is this:

1. A significant pathogen in Morgellons is a nematode.

2. Nematodes require bacteria to digest their food. (us)

3. The only way this worm can eat is if it has this bacteria in its body.

4. We can rid this worm of the bacteria it needs to survive by taking antibiotics.

5. We would have to take the antibiotics long enough to immerse our tissues in the antibiotic. Then, when the worm eats us, it gets the antibiotic, can't digest food, and starves to death.



I've been taking Doxycycline for about a week and the cherry red color on my arms is turning more normal blood color.

My mouth is better...

This is a preliminary idea - but since Ivermectin doesn't seem to work (the nematode is immune to it because it's been used a lot) - the antibiotic makes sense.

I am all for natural ways, and if someone can fight this bacteria using natural antibacterials, that may work too. But for myself, I want the big guns, the big medicine, because I have been absolutely miserable.

Any thoughts on my ideas on the antibiotics killing the worm and healing us?

i read there is an antibotic some sorta of super anitiobotic maby ask for it dont remember name -sorry brain freeze

[sarothra]

Originally Posted by Sadsack

Sarothra -
I am dying to hear what the dentist had to say!!! What was his reaction when he took that stuff out??? Did you use the word "Morgellons"?
SS

Hi Sadsack,

No, I knew enough not to say "Morgellons" - I'm learning ...

I just told HIM that I had a nematode infection. He said he's never seen anything like this before and I said "It's common in Africa" - meaning, nematode infections.

He didn't question me whatsoever. He didn't say "yes, I see worms" -- He did say

I see how they are wrapped around the base of your teeth

I don't think they have damaged the roots of your teeth yet.

I think cleaning out the "debris" will help you. I can see you are in terrible pain.

In other words, yes, indirectly, he said he saw the worms. He got out his camera and took pictures. My lip had black worm/fungus stuff coming out and he took pictures of that.

Everyone needs to check their mouth!!

You can't feel them in there unless you feel with your finger. Feel the nerve that runs to your eye tooth on top. Is there a swelling there, bigger than you remember? Run your finger up the outside of the hard palatte. Push on the swelling for a few minutes. Do you feel it collapse a little? Push harder. Do you feel the hard "wire" - that wire/thread (it's red) runs through the center of the worms body. You will feel that protrusion. That's not your nerve, that's the worm.

Everyone check their mouth. Feel along the top of the hard palette (around the outside of your teeth) - There are 2 main nerves on the top and 2 on the bottom. There are also 2 lesser nerves that run to the molar areas. If you can push on these and feel a collapse (you have to push for at least 1 minute) - you probably have worms eating the roots of your teeth too.

Please let me know. I'm very interested in other's experiences with their mouths.

[sarothra]

Here is a link to the bacteria in question. This is the bacteria used by the nematode heterorhabditis. It is the only family of nematodes that uses this CHERRY RED color bacteria - it glows in the dark and reduces the flora of other bacteria which might compete with it.

Photorhabdus_luminescens | 2can Support Portal | EBI

[sarothra]

Very interesting article on Photorhabdus:

Small Things Considered: The Two Faces of Photorhabdus

[sarothra]

This article says, in essence, that photorhabdus is infecting people through a worm (invertebrate) -

This is related to the plague. Read how.

This is also related to anthrax. Read how.

This is scary what we have. We need to get this bacteria out of our bodies. My advice is "take your antibiotic". Which one works best on this bacteria? I don't know, but I'm taking Doxycycline and I'm better.