Clifford Carnicom Has Linked Morgellons to Chemtrails

[Sadsack]

Kritts -
It's taking all my strength to pass up the "tomorrow nite when I can be undisturbed" comment!!
Anyway, if I understand correctly, the red wine PULLS OUT the junk; it's a method of purging (testing?).

It seems strange that scientists aren't attempting to replicate each others work. Findings like the red blood cells need to be confirmed by someone else and then PUBLISHED, ya know??

SS

PS - Wouldn't that be awful to have to avoid red wine????

[Kritters]

Yeah SS...I can't imagine life without it. I have been really good and will probably cut it out next week altogether until my candida is gone along with everything else, including my 4 mo pregger-looking stomach. sooooo disgusting. I feel like I stepped beyond a freakish looking glass into a different world of the future. I'm such a physical person than I used to be.

So, if red wine pulls out the junk, I should have contributed to my sewer system long ago!!! ;-)

Yes, I agree....I wish we could get someone left-brained and anal to compile all the scientists' and researchers' conclusions and compare them to see what matches up. Hmmmm...who could we get?. Not me for sure... I screw up even every simple poll I start! Jo has so much of that information on her site, but I know she's swamped.

Anyone out there willing to force a peer compilation?

(Glad you liked my 'subtle' statement)

xoxoKritts

[Sadsack]

Kritters -
Funny you should mention that! I have been thinking about the need for a forum dedicated to all the research that been done by the biggies. Some discussion about what it all means and how it all relates (if it all relates). Maybe just dedicated to trying to understand it all, without adding our own research. That might be hard to do, but I do see stuff posted from different researchers and hardly anything is said about it, guess cuz most of us really don't understand most of it (ME).
Could try just a thread here, but some of the reports are so long it would be hard.
Watcha think??
And what is Jo's site? I knew but it flu away.

SS

[carla]

No need to give up red wine, Girls.lf anything drink more of it.
What he is saying is the red wine is bringing out these forms that replicate themselves.
The same forms are being found in the airborne samples he has collected.
He had reported they were dessicated blood cells but didn't want to shout about it for obvious reasons.
Now a highly respected Microbioloigist has been in touch with him confirming he is also finding these cells in air samples.
We are being sprayed with blood cells that once inhaled begin to replicate.
Stem cell research is what we need to look at next.

[Katinka]

Is Nanogel used for fueling aircrafts?
Are the "chemtrails" residues of Nanogels used to prevent global warming??

http://cientifica.eu/files/Whitepape...antech0307.pdf

Fuel Borne Catalysts
Increasing Efficiency, Reducing Emissions
What is it?
Fuel-borne catalysts work by helping diesel fuel burn more
efficiently in the engine, increasing fuel economy and reducing
particle emissions.
Nanoparticles of materials such as cerium oxide are added to
fuel and have the effect of making the fuel burn more evenly
and longer. By using catalyst particles in the range of a few
nanometers the efficiency of the material is dramatically increased
as most of the active material is on the surface rather
than being locked up inside a particle. The catalyst is blended
into diesel fuel at around 5 parts per million.
How Does It Reduce Emissions?
Long term trials by UK based Oxonica have indicated improvements
in fuel efficiency of up to 10% and a reduction in
soot emissions of around 15%, reducing both carbon input
and output.
In a diesel engine, combustion occurs when the fuel injected
into a cylinder is compressed. By spreading out the burn, the
fuel-borne catalyst reduces the force exerted at the start of
the burn, when the piston is still pushing into the cylinder--a
moment when the diesel engine is fighting itself. Later in the
cycle, the particles may make a non-catalytic contribution: by
decomposing under the heat and pressure of combustion, the
cerium oxide particles release some of their oxygen to feed
the flame, combusting residual pockets of fuel.
Oxonica’s recent deal with with Petrol Ofisi A.S., Turkey's
largest fuel distributor, is expected to reduce CO2 emissions
by up to 200,000 tons per year. Applying the same technology
to private automobiles in the United States could reduce
emissions by a further 30 million tons.

Cerium(IV) oxide

Cerium(IV) oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

....While it is transparent for visible light, it absorbs ultraviolet radiation strongly


Remember we have stated Silicon as a possible cause? And that what we are seeing in Kammy's and BO's samples look like silicon coating and we have come to the conclusion Morgellons Disease could be caused or triggered by overload of Silicon?

Is this the relationship to Chemtrails?
Silica - Silicon - Silica Gel - Aero Gel - Nano Gel. Are they using this Nanogel to fuel the airplanes and to reduce UV radiation ergo global warming??

Katinka

[Venetia]

Originally Posted by carla

No need to give up red wine, Girls.lf anything drink more of it.
What he is saying is the red wine is bringing out these forms that replicate themselves.
The same forms are being found in the airborne samples he has collected.
He had reported they were dessicated blood cells but didn't want to shout about it for obvious reasons.
Now a highly respected Microbioloigist has been in touch with him confirming he is also finding these cells in air samples.
We are being sprayed with blood cells that once inhaled begin to replicate.
Stem cell research is what we need to look at next.

Back in 2003, my cat was very ill. The Vet showed me the blood test- what was outstanding was the Desiccated Red Blood cells. I posted on the matter- passed the test
info on to a long time poster on the 'old' board, who in turn evidently passed it along to one of the Cliff's- I have noticed articles since then that mention the desiccated red blood
cells.

Will Thomas mentions the desicated red blood cells in the Chemtrails as well.

I'm concerned about this issue because a family member currently has red blood cells that are not properly formed, according to his doctor.

V

[Sadsack]

"Now a highly respected Microbioloigist has been in touch with him confirming he is also finding these cells in air samples"

Carla - did that come out of the radio interview? I missed it if it did. I wonder why this microbiologist isn't publishing it, if it is a replicated/confirmed finding?

We really NEED these things to be published. I don't think keeping quiet about whatever horrors are taking place are the way to go. And I don't mean to diminish the alternative websites/media, but things have been discussed for years in these places and breaking through the "glass ceiling" into mainstream acceptance just isn't coming the way it should.

How can we expect the world to acknowledge this if it doesn't go that extra step?

I'm not singling out anyone....NONE of the researchers have had their findings confirmed and published in peer-reviewed journals.

The only journal article is that one by Savely et al - but it wasn't scientific studies.

I guess I am just getting anxious because I am afraid that the CDC will come out with something....and we don't have a single published scientific study to dispute them with!!!

Like it or not, the CDC carries an enomous amount of clout and implications in terms of individual medical care and recognition for each of us.

The following has already been announced and posted in various places, so I will come forward with it now.

In January I saw a YouTube video that showed Dr. Wymore talking about FTIR elemental analysis of the fibers. The video was based on an interview from 2 1/2 years ago, and he said he would not comment on the findings until the study was replicated. Whoever made the video asked why, 2 1/2 years out, the finding weren't replicated for publication.

I thought - excellent question - and so I contacted OSU to find out how much it would cost to have that done. We also discussed the agrobacteria (Citovsky) study, which has also not been replicated and published.

I was able to solicit funds from friends and sent the money to be earmarked to replicate both of these studies, with the understanding that they would result in journal publications.

Another study is being proposed - a shot-gun dna study - which will be rather costly. I was able to partially support that study, but about $7,000 more is needed to do this.

I just want to make the point that I am not "supporting my favorite researcher". It has nothing to do with that. I just looked at who was doing what, and what was closest to being journal-published - in order to DEFLATE any BS that the CDC might have lined up.

And so I am now challenging the MRF regarding their current research into the identified pathogens. Will the findings be published in a peer-reviewed journal? If so, when can we expect that? The CDC clock is ticking; indeed, their "report" is overdue.

SS

[Kritters]

SS...you are writing that, above? So wow....talk about putting your money where your mouth and heart are. Excellent for you.

Back to the compilation of who has done what...no one so far has done this? Maybe if people would go to Jo's website Morgellons UK - Campaign 2009 - Raising awareness to the Public and Professionals
and obtain the information she has there, someone would take the time to compare notes.

That desiccated blood....if it's getting into our systems from different sources, isn't it possible that whatever dna composition it is could be incorporated into our dna via a virus (or mycoplasm???) not sure....but then in turn become part of our blood>systems>dna?????

Remember the days when you could buy cereal with desiccated strawberries and marshmallows? This gives a whole 'nuther meaning to recombination and reconstitution!

Damn, I wish I became a biological scientist.....

xoKritts

[carla]

lt comes from the Chemtrails.lt explains the lot for me

[Kritters]

Hey Carls,

Probably so...but the most important thing is to figure out what we are dealing with to hopefully help find somewhat of a cure or stabilizer while we wait for those who are professionally researching....along with the CDC (Certain Death for Citizens).

xoKritts