Suspected Pathogens in Morgellons

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If you come across some interesting information that you might think is linked to the Morgellons pathogens and aren't sure, just put them in here for now.

This is a thread where you can put the Morgellons suspects until we can get around to researching if they are or are not a part of Morgellons disease.

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Here's an example - I'm in the middle of doing something else... and want to note that this might be important, for future reference, as per Kat pointing this out to me:

Sea Shells

This guy looks like our 'seashell'... for future reference...

[Katinka]

Here is another suspect of mine.

Are these our "worms or nematodes" we are finding?? Has anyone noticed if those worms ever have made movements?? I didn't.





These are conidias from the fungus family Fusarium. This fungus is the base component of Roundup for GM Crop Management. AHA!!

Fusarium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There are several species of Fusarium...Fusarium oxysporum for example was used to elminate coca plants..Agent Green.



Fusarium belongs to the family...Ascomycota



Don't want to confuse you guys..just wanted to make sure we should maybe ADD this one too.

Katinka

[sarothra]

SAROTHRA'S THEORY OF MORGELLONS

Morgellons is initially caused by an infection with the nematode, heterorhabditis luminescens.

-- the infective juveniles not only "hatch out" from our skin, but whatever IJ's are in the environment are attracted to us as well.

We keep treating our lesions but we keep getting reinfected. We have to find way to stop the cycle. Some already have, and some are still in the live nematode/live fungus/live bacteria stage.

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Sounds good, Saro, and is very plausible to be true.

But, remember, that what we propose - has to be in common with everybody?

If you say that HB is the vector - then you have be able to prove that everyone with Morgellons has HB in their bodies or systems. How many microscopic photos do I have of HB of the hundreds I've taken? Do I have any photos of the HB's eggs in the sticky traps?

What's the odds of the others coming up with photo proof of HB in their specimens?

Let's talk about this over in your HB thread?

[sarothra]

I think we're going to keep adding pathogens for quite a while. Morgellons is an affliction that compromises the immune system. For one thing the nematodes eat tissue, and we don't have any studies of what tissues it eats. This scavenging not only weakens tissue but causes a lot of toxins to be deposited into the bloodstream and liver (our cleansing organ). Energy that should be used for fighting off illness is constantly needed to try to rid the body of the huge amount of toxins such bacteria/mold and worms put out. Could be sucking the blood, too, introducing who knows what pathogens into our blood stream?



Aspergillis is a fungus found in patients with compromised immune systems.

That's us.

[sarothra]

Kat,

You asked if "these are the nematodes we are finding". Yes, I think so. The ones we are finding in the environment floating around are bio-engineered to be of very small size.

Trust me, though, when they get inside the body and start to grow they get big.

[sarothra]

Originally Posted by Kammy

Here's an example - I'm in the middle of doing something else... and want to note that this might be important, for future reference, as per Kat pointing this out to me:

Sea Shells

This guy looks like our 'seashell'... for future reference...

The curvularia fungus (shown here is the conidia) is common in immunocompromised patients. Another opportunistic infection in Morgellons.

sar

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Oops, wrong thread.

[sarothra]

Originally Posted by Kammy

Sounds good, Saro, and is very plausible to be true.

But, remember, that what we propose - has to be in common with everybody?

If you say that HB is the vector - then you have be able to prove that everyone with Morgellons has HB in their bodies or systems. How many microscopic photos do I have of HB of the hundreds I've taken? Do I have any photos of the HB's eggs in the sticky traps?

What's the odds of the others coming up with photo proof of HB in their specimens?

Let's talk about this over in your HB thread?

You have photos of HB - the worms with the tapered ends and the ones with the "necklace" are HB. Now, I can't tell that exclusively by LOOKING AT IT. But I can tell that by a combination of the microscopic evidence and signs and symptoms (of myself and others). It's not microscopic evidence alone but the combination of looking at it and noting the signs and symptoms of the patients.

Medicine is a combination of microscopic evidence and signs and symptoms. You can't base everything on the microscope.

Please note this example:

Stapholococcus Aureus is considered NORMAL FLORA on the human skin. If you have a patient come in with a huge angry looking sore and you culture it and you find Staph Aureus then that is a pathological level of Staph Aureus and it needs to be treated with antibiotics.

If you have another patient with "normal" skin, you will also grow out Staph Aureus.

The microscope will tell the same story in both cases. But each patient is very different. One needs treatment and the other doesn't.


This scenario happens a lot in medicine. That's why doctors have to SEE the patient and can't rely on lab tests alone.

I appreciate that this site includes microscopic evidence but at best it is only half of the story. How the patient presents is crucial to a diagnosis.