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| I'm sorry about how "indelicate" this is, but I'd like to know how many people: a) had anal itching/biting as their first symptom b) continue to have it as the most prominent symptom c) just have it off and on d) never had it SS |
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| C) just have it off and on (dictated by what I've taken...eg Ivermectin and humaworm parasite cleanse causes anal itching for me) I've swabbed and scoped...it was the fibres causing the itching. |
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| This is why I want to know. I know two other people - actually, they are my 2 best friends. Both have or have had the itching. One of them had it in a period of time that I hadn't seen him for 10 years, so if he has this I didn't give to him. The other one had the itching years before I did; I'm quite sure he has it, in fact may have given it to me. They both seem to be functioning pretty well, and I wonder how many "hidden" cases are out there, with maybe just that one symptom. SS |
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| Beta Carotene is very powerful when it comes to the anal, I do not know if it will stop the itching but it has removed my hemroids. This was when I was looking for the vitamin cure, vitamin cure do not work, anyway as far as I was willing to go. I read a book, its called LETS PLAY DOCTOR, of course it is written by a doctor that was disenfrnchised by the direction modern medicine was taking. he was taking another approach, health first, nutriants first, natural first, then the chemical lst resort. You know lets TRY to fix the problem first instead of putting bandaids on all the symptoms created by modern drugs. While trying his method years ago I found that VITAMIN A as BETA CAROTENE was a strong fighter, the limits he suggested were quite high like 300,000 IU a day. The reason I mention this is it had this affect, the hemroids began to get painful, then instead of shrinking they became a MASS of large grapes somthing I had NEVER seen the likes of. It really worried me to no end as it was actually terrible and painfull, but I persisted and all of a sudden, just like magic they disapeared and I have not seen them since. I have a funny feeling that this was our affliction talking, I bought this book in 1996 so way back then I was working on parts of this, including the skin problems, they were slight at that time though. The reason for the BETA CAROTENE used as vitamin A is that it does NOT stay in the body and build up, what you do not use you will crap out. Here is a part you can watch happen, when you first take a large amount of it you will see bright orange in the toilet , don't worry the body has not adjusted to absorbing it. In a few days there will be hardly a color in the toilet, your body is absorbing all of it. This is sort of like a brush with ACCUTANE, this is a Vitamin A dirivative to treat bad skin. Try it if your bung itches you may be surprised!!! You may want to step up the C,E and zinc while you are doing that also. You may be able to find this book which is a excelent reading. I liked it and now that I got it out will read a little more about this mans feelings about treatments. |
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| I will only be anal one more time, ozone up the bung may also well solve your problem, it works in a couple of different ways, one to kill bad bacteria in the colon, the other which I have seen myself is expell worms, these worms could not be found in THREE different tests for parasites, what does that make them. They have the yellow tint and are very thin walled. These things could actually be what makes the lines under the skin.WHO knows. I would purchase again a cheap ozone machine on ebay, you can use for ear infusions, bung hole, colon, wtaer purification, it removes fungus, virus , bacteria, parasites and pestiside from the surface of anything, including your fruits and vegatables. I first use a box to ozone the vegatables and fruit then wash them in water that I ozoned with them in it for 10 minutes. One thing to always do first, clean the sink. I found that with the large amount of dish soap I use there is alot of residue at the bottom and it releases it from the sink. AS in any form of treatment read about this one also, do not be anal about your health, its worth all your time and money. |
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| What I am really trying to figure out is how universal a symptom is this. In my opinion, it can't be separated from the overall affliction, and diminishes/disappears when the entire body is ridding itself of the various aspects of this, and increases as the whole disease process heats up. When the "load" in the system gets high, then we start getting lesions and lots of fibers. Just trying to figure it out. SS |
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IMO, the immune system is switched into high gear when whatever it is increases in population. I think that keeping the blood ph from becoming overly acidic is key in keeping them on the upswing, if not eliminating them entirely. JMO. Kritts |
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| I too have the itching which tends to get worse after taking antihelmentics. But this was confirmed after a visit to my physicians. I had him check me for hemmorhoids. He used the glove during his exam with the jelly stuff and said that they didn't look that bad. After I returned home I used a paper towel due to the "ick" feeling of after and exam and voila there were the large blue wormlike fibers. So whatever you choose to call it, fibers, worms, whatever, it resides just inside the anal opening. Just out of sight. Sorry to gross you out if I did I apologize. You asked. If I get and itch I just put some caladryl on a paper towel OR use zinc oxide. It goes away immediately and you WILL see them on the paper towel. After they are removed the itching stops. Morgan Last edited by Morgan; November 2nd, 2008 at 01:56 PM. |
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| I have this, especially after bowel movement. It can last all day, and microscopic exam shows nothing definitive. Could be B. Hominis [present] yeast [present] fiber-like structures [present sometimes]. The level of e-coli and other gram negative bacteria is abnormally high, which suggests dysbiosis. Cultures show same results with high levels of penecillium and e-coli. No fiber-like structures grow from swabs. Shroom |
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| Thanks, all...it's a nasty subject, I'm sorry, but I think maybe everyone has it, and I'm really trying to figure out what it means with these 2 friends of mine. Not just cuz they're my friends but because I often wonder just how many people out there have Morgs but their symptoms are so minimal (so far) that they are still somewhat hidden. Has everybody registered with MRF and OSU websites? I check the numbers almost daily to see if there are any spikes. They just seem to be creeping along, despite the recent exposure (Mystery ER). SS |
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