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| It appears that the general population (this means everyone) has a small sub-micron pathogen appearing in all blood samples provided to Clifford Carnicom. This sub-micron pathogen is one of four structures found in "Morgellons" fibers. In the fall of 2007 I became interested in aerosol spraying. I had never noticed it before. My path led me to Gwen Scott, ND and Clifford Carnicom. I discovered that we live within a 60 mile radius of one-another. In November '07 I met with Carnicom and gave him samples from my skin, nose and teeth. These samples were a direct match to "Morgellons" samples he had collected 1 year before. Dr. Gwen Scott also has Morgellons. She has been a journalist for CBS, NBC, ABC & CNN. Recently I have heard her speak about chem-trails on KTAO solar radio (Taos, NM). I was fortunate enough to have her call me last fall and introduce me to Carnicom. The wealth of knowledge this woman has shared with me is beyond words. Clifford and Gwen are powerful advocates for our cause. Surprisingly, I found the following video while looking for follow-up coverage on the Austin Conference (which I attended). From what I have gathered (post-Austin Conf) Carnicom's findings are shared by Mark Darrah in the descriptions of fibers. Here's the link to a very informative video by Carnicom and Dr. Scott: www.carnicom.com/morgvid1.htm If you have any questions, comments or information you would like to share with Carnicom or Dr. Scott please post it here. I can call them any time and get a response for you. In the white light, ~jonsi
__________________ There is a reason I have "Morgellons". Helping and teaching others how to survive in our toxic world may be the reason. Hang in there everyone who has this. |
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| Hello Everyone, Jonsi sent me this link last night. Myself and my fiance watched it and found it very very interesting being quite new to the subject of morg. I would recommend everyone to visit the related website as there is an abundance of worthwhile and interesting information. Thank you for posting this Jonsi Wamest Regards Robert |
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| Thanks Jonsi, good stuff. Just for the record, below are the four basic forms that Cliff Carnicom has observed, and talks about in the video: 1) Encasing filament or abounding filament - is bearly visable, looks like hair but is not. 12-20 microns thick. 2) A sub-micron network of filaments within the encasing filament mentioned above. 3) A Coccus looking element, similar to coccus bacterial forms, spherical in shape and sub micron in size, ranging from 1/2 - 7/10th of a micron. 4) Hybrid between a filament and coccus (more resembling a filament but not as long) - this appears primarily within the blood. Numbers 1 to 3 above appear outwardly eg (skin) Linking to the aerosol spraying, he's found direct parallels to 3 of the basic forms above. Jo xxx |
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| Dang!! I do believe you gals are on to something!! Niecy ![]() ![]() ![]()
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| Jo, thanks for the summary! Please post your questions, comments or contributions to this matter here, and I will pass it on. I haven't talked to Carnicom or Gwen since the Austin Convention but want to ask about the sticky waxy substance Mark Darrah talked about. One of the first videos I saw on Morgellons showed a fruit fly being dissolved and turned into a gel blob by a Morgellons fiber. I wonder if the fibers break down substances in our bodies to form the waxy stuff. It is just a thought but perhaps someone will read this and it will make sense to them and they can figure this whole thing out. Wish I may... In the white light, ~jonsi
__________________ There is a reason I have "Morgellons". Helping and teaching others how to survive in our toxic world may be the reason. Hang in there everyone who has this. |
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| I happen to have done the "wine-peroxide" test just now. I brushed my teeth. Flossed. This produced blood. I swished with peroxide, and got nervous cuz I was producing a lot of foam and then nervous about what it might do. I think I rinsed with water. Then I swished with red wine. I spit out. I thought the material there was just blood, and maybe the agents I put in my mouth caused the blood to clot in a certain way. However, I did have lots of stringy type saliva kinda of slimy stuff in the cup when I spit out. When I opened my mouth... My toungue was covered with the brown slimy stuff, and it was even in specs between my teeth, but again, I think it's just blood. My mouth started to feel weird and I was concerned about erosion of my teeth from the peroxide, so I brushed immediately and rinsed with water. The resulting spit out material resembles this closely but not as dense. The brown material on my toungue looks very much like the stuff at the very right of this slide. http://www.carnicom.com/morgobs7.htm but how do we know that is not just blood also on the slide? I took a photo of my tounge, but am concerned about attaching it. |
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| To seasprite, you are braver than I am! Carnicom asked me to do this experiment and Gwen swears by it but so far I have only sipped a bit of the wine and corked the bottle for future use. And what do you mean by not wanting to share a photo of you sticking your tongue out ? grrr... hope your doctor helps you to recovery.Itwl, ~jonsi
__________________ There is a reason I have "Morgellons". Helping and teaching others how to survive in our toxic world may be the reason. Hang in there everyone who has this. |
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| Hi Sprite, I got this too!! Quote:
Might have to do it again....damn have to buy some more wine ![]() xxx ps- Jonsi - just checked video, Cliff did say the hybrid being within |
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| Ello Jonsi, Please could you thank Cliff and Gwen for us. Could you please ask Cliff if there is any uniformity in the length of the filament forms? Thanks Jo xxx |
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| I would be willing to send samples to them, I am interested in Clifford's training. I know he probably doesn't want to reveal where his "lab" is, but I'm interested if he is a biologist or where did he go to school, or etc. The doctor looked painfully frail. It I knew how to strip all the data off the photos I would post. they aren't that clear though. If you do the rinse, I would not recommend swishing with the Hydrogen peroxide, she says to swab with it. I am not sure what good that does, but swishing produced a LOT of foam, and I think that might not be good. Swishing with the wine was no big deal. Since they talked about these fibers being everywhere in the body, i took a look in the toilet after I peed and notice the same looking filaments as when I took the peroxide-salt baths floating on the surface, but not that many of them. After I did the swish I swear it looked like a few of the white thing comign out of the skin on my cheeks and nose. Very few though maybe 5 or so. In the past with cider vinegar it was dozens. I really would like to have my samples analyzed. |
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