Dr Martin research - Autism and Stealth viruses & Treatment

[Jo]

Hi Kritts, All,

I'm hearing you on the ADD thing Kritts. Its related alright - I know lack of concentration is a symptom of morgs, and I've read about autism in children being a possibility too.

There was a petition to the government in 2005 about autism. Here's abit of it:

We would like to bring to your attention published reports of simian (monkey) cytomegalovirus DNA contamination of licensed polio vaccines. The studies were
conducted by the United States Food and Drug Administration and the United Kingdom National Institute for Biological Standards and Control.

Although the Government researchers were unable to culture viruses from the contaminated polio vaccine lots, they have refused to provide the lots for independent testing. The reason cited is proprietary protection of the vaccine manufacturer. The
Government studies were prompted by the reported isolation of viruses related to simian cytomegalovirus from patients by an independent investigator Dr. W. John Martin, M.D.,
Ph.D.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...082423506&sign

I think this was the focus of the vaccine research that No Man wanted our help with.

Its based on the findings of Dr Martin. The same man that wrote the ACE pigments article that Cindi found about a stealth virus he finds in brain cells.

http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...21568#msg21568

Dr Martin is also treating patients with new medical dye and UV therapy to kill stealth viruses. He reckons it can cure morgellons, in addition to herpes and shingles.

He's doing clinical trials at the moment (Arkansas) and it sounds like its having positive effects on a Morgie reporting in:

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/i...6145351&page=1

Also sounds like people can ring up and ask for treatment. Her description of symptoms are fabulously accurate for me.

Apparently, this treatment has already been Ok'ed in parts of europe and UK - will find out


Jo xxx

[Kritters]

Hey Jo,
Good to hear you say that. I was afraid people would think I was pushing the envelope. Here's a link I found searching Simian..........

http://health.ucsd.edu/clinicalresources/simian21.pdf

Simian Herpes

So besides that.....where were these vaccines made, do you know? Interesting how US citizens are prohibited from purchasing drugs from anywhere other than the US, but am I correct in that these come from outside of US???



LuuuuuUSy......you got some 'splainin' to do......................

[Jo]

I don't know Kritts, wonder if No Man knows. Time for a dig!

I think your Simian Herpes doc is bang on:

Comment from jlk on Lymebusters:

I highly recommend you all visit Dr. Martin's website and read his many articles this one in particular: http://www.s3support.com/members/sci...ns/complex.cfm
He has felt for many years there has been a stealth virus (stealth meaning our immune systems cannot detect it) and this virus causes many illnesses many of them cause mental illnesses, fatigue, but it is also related to the chicken pox, herpes and shingles virus. It is not the same as but a variant of these viruses.

[Kritters]

yeah Jo,
Back to my thought of weeks past....could they all actually be variations of the same parasite? yup they can! Parasites morph and change their coats faster than Superman.

Hey, here's an interesting tidbit: Some parasites manifest themselves in the host's skin and blood because they are waiting for another pathogen to come along (and bite like a mosquito or fly or spider or tick) and transfer it to a different host to be brought further along to their final transformation. How 'bout that? I'm sure that's not the only reason for skin and blood infestation, but is surely is one.

These bastards are velly velly cunning (not cute cunning )

Kritts

[tcmgpt13]

I would just like to caution those who have been researching W.John Martin, MD, Phd. The following reference is from the CFIDS foundation:

http://ncf-net.org/forum/Johnmartin.html

Here is some research which is evidently based on reputable science and which discusses a named (not stealth or unidentified as claimed by Martin) virus associated with chronic fatigue:

http://ncf-net.org/PressReleases.htm

"Potential Animal (Zoonotic) Virus Identified in Patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis and Epilepsy

Needham, MA May 31, 2006 -- Recent independent scientific research funded by the National CFIDS Foundation, Inc. (NCF) of Needham, MA provided preliminary confirmation of a new virus identified in patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. The Foundation's medical research dovetails with that completed to date by Cryptic Afflictions, LLC *, a private company.

Dr. Steven J. Robbins, virologist and Chief Executive Officer of Cryptic Afflictions, LLC has discovered a major neuropathogen identified as an RNA virus designated as Cryptovirus. Substantial clinical and molecular evidence indicates that this virus is involved in the development of neurological disorders that include Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS), also known as Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (M.E.) by the World Health Organization, Multiple Sclerosis (M.S.) and Idiopathic Epilepsy of unknown cause.

According to the company, "This previously undetected virus appears to be of significant importance to researchers looking for a cure to Multiple Sclerosis and many other neurological illnesses. Antibodies to the newly discovered virus were found in the cerebrospinal fluid and blood of over 90% of the patients tested with Multiple Sclerosis. It is believed that this newly discovered virus may prove to be responsible for a host of neurological disorders. Tests are currently being prepared for tissue samples of lesions within the brains of patients with Multiple Sclerosis. This will be the final round of tests before approaching the FDA for approval of the diagnostic tests."

Dr. Robbins' evidence includes the presence of virus-specific antibodies in the serum and cerebrospinal fluid of patients suffering from these disorders, the ability of the virus to cause virtually identical disease in experimentally-infected animals, and nucleotide sequence data that indicates that the virus is pandemic and represents a single virus species much like measles."

On this same foundation page is a discussion of chronic fatigue being associated with a neurotoxic found in some fish. Since I got this problem when I ate fish I found this idea interesting and I believe Niecy has posted something in the past about this too:

"Neurotoxin Discovered in Chronic Fatigue Syndrome

Needham, MA November 17, 2002 -- Research sponsored by the National CFIDS Foundation was formally announced at the International Symposium on Toxins and Natural Products in Okinawa, Japan on November 17-19, 2002 by Dr. Yo****sugi Hokama. The research, for the first time, discovered ciguatoxin, a potent neurotoxin, in the blood of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome patients.

"Chronic ciguatera poisoning has already been suggested as a scientific model for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)," stated Dr. Hokama. Ciguatoxins are potent, heat stabile, non-protein, lipophilic sodium channel activator toxins and are recognized as some of the most potent biological toxins known. They produce dramatic neurological manifestations, such as peripheral sensory or motor symptoms (including paresthesias, pain, burning, tingling, numbness), central symptoms such as headache, autonomic dysfunction and also affect multiple body systems (gastrointestinal, immune, hepatic, cardiovascular) and the muscles.

Many CFS patients in the study had higher levels of the toxin than the patients with cancer, hepatitis or acute ciguatera poisoning."

[Jo]

Hi TCM, folks.

Good find. JLK mentioned that his clinical trial was in the last stages of FDA approval!! Will find out the score.

Jo xxx

[tcmgpt13]

More on the subject of Martin:

http://moonflake.wordpress.com/2006/...w-john-martin/

http://imulux.googlepages.com/

[Jo]

Hello,

I had an email back from the FDA, after asking them to verify Dr Martin's clinical trial. They aren't allowed to say, doh. Well they know about it now, if they didnt already!!

Through the link they mentioned, I found http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ Cant find the trial listed.

Jo xxx

Your interest in contacting the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) through your recent e-mail is appreciated.

The message that you sent has been directed to me here at the Center for Medical Devices and Radiological Health. Unfortunately, FDA policy prohibits any discussion of clinical trials, including confirmation of their existence. Such information is treated as confidential and proprietary to the manufacturer or physician. Although, nothing is shared about a medical device until such time as it is approved or cleared, you can still approach the company which is at liberty to share news of its FDA status.

Hopefully, this response will prove useful to you but, in the meantime, you may be interested in the FDA website of http://www.fda.gov/oc/oha/default.htm#clinical!

Cynthia Benson
Office of Communication, Education and Radiation Programs
Center for Devices and Radiological Health
U.S. Food and Drug Administration
1-800-638-2041, ext. 109

[tcmgpt13]

Yet another post from lymebusters on Dr. Martin's "research" in Arkansas:

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/i...ad=8073&page=5

I would approach this "research" with great caution. Most legitimate research would have controls. The person who praised this treatment and research on lymebusters is a newbie. Another red flag?

[niecy]

TCM, hi, hope you are doing well? I am sad to say that I would have to agree with you........it's very odd when someone new starts posting stuff that people who are out here everyday, and have been for a very long time, and have many contacts haven't found......

I have been in contact with a few here on this forum just in the last week, and most (all) of us agree that we all need to be watching each others backs, there are wovles among us.

No one could hope any more than myself, I know many also hope as badly as I do, for an answer. I just hope that everyone will investigate everything about the wonderful new opportunities that are popping up everywhere before they get involved with people. Everyone out there is not out there with OUR best interest at heart.

Many, many people will be trying to take advantage of our desperation. If you feel desperate then please contact some of the members on the forum that have been around for awhile. You can go to a members name anywhere on the forum and click on it and it will take you to their profile. When you get there you can see when they joined the forum, and their status as member. You can also click on their recent posts, and it will allow you to read all posts by that member.

Love and Prayers for us all!!
Niecy

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

Yet another post from lymebusters on Dr. Martin's "research" in Arkansas:

http://lymebusters.proboards39.com/i...ad=8073&page=5

I would approach this "research" with great caution. Most legitimate research would have controls. The person who praised this treatment and research on lymebusters is a newbie. Another red flag?