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| I just wanted to get a idea from you gents and ladies. How would you compare the itching from morgellons to chicken pox? Same, worse about the same? My buddy got off lucky and had mild itching, but i have a feeling its not same for most. Thanks for any info on the subject. I hate asking questions like this, just brings up the bad feelings. |
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| the intensity varies, can be mild to severe in my case. i never scratch, but spray with ecovie or something. either that if itching stinging too intense then i take a treatment bath. or i shower using palmolive oxy plus, then repeat washing all over with selsum blue medicated shampoo. dont forget to wash nostrils, ear canals. what i do for the itching, anyway. |
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| Funny you should ask, I've been at this a long time and have tryed just about every thing in the book. After doing antibiotic I was crawling from head to toe. So when people say they're Itching, I always ask about that and think mites. With me, there is no itching. Just a feeling that you need to take a shower real bad. The bites are like someone just stuck me with a pin. WTG |
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| Sorry that I didn't respond sooner, but I have been tired emotionally and physically, but it will pass. I don't scratch but there are times when my lesions have movement. I think I have a nest at the bottom of my hair (4 dry scabs) and it itches at night and burns when I put products on it. I refuse to scratch because it gets worse. Otherwise, I mostly get bites that don't itch but sting. The itch comes as it dries out. The crawling under the skin is gross to me, but it is not extremely itchy. Hope this helps. Melissa
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| I've had different types of itching for different symptoms, but can't relate them to chicken pox cause I was too young (once) to remember. Some of my itching comes from crawling , some when I'm rashy and some come from the inside under the skin . Another itch is when the hot water hits an area of my skin that they must be under, and I can't get the water hot enough to satisfy it. When the bottom of my feet itch, I use herbal detox pads on them. It seems to take the itch away and I always get one or two little black specks on the pads when I take them off. Seems like I've gone of on and itchy tangent ![]() karen |
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| karen the crawling feeling is what my buddy was getting very badly for a while. He as getting the feeling in the chest which made it even that more scary for him. He use to tell me, he swore he could feel them crawling up his chest and near his heart. Though he was really a wreak back then. That's when he stopped eating and almost starved himself to death. |
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| I get both itching and biting/stinging--the itch to me is as the same intensity as say, athlete's foot (not making a theory connection--just an analogy); it may come suddenly and hang around off and on for a while. AmLactin, Dsp and even Gold Bond menthol seems to help--or maybe that left over after a mosquito bite, Sometimes I find granules on the the skin (which when checked under 30x usually have fiber embedded) and I think they are what has irritated the skin by their presence. A lot depends on how sensitive my skin is. Some days, it's hypersensitive. As for as crawlies,a few within and sometimes feel as they are racing across top of the skin too (and there isn't anything--maybe contact with a nerve center). I mostly get the ones deepwithin near a particular site (with maybe what was my first lesion) and I've also seen the leg muscle there twitch. As always, the treatment stuff helps a lot. |
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| what I have noticed with my own situation is that the itching seems most associated with what appears to be egg-laying cycles, or some sort of reproductive cycle. The reason that I say this, is because the itch is horribly intense in a particular location, until the skin is broken, and then it usually resolves, until that area dries or scabs--there is a "drive" to keep re-opening this "orifice." Unfortunately,that has led many of us to mistakenly begin to believe that we NEED to open these sores in order for them to heal. Or we even open them while sleeping, (I have,) just to relieve the itch--that WILL NOT stop--until the sore is opened. I have even found that these lesions that aren't healing, will begin to heal after I have touched one open sore to another sore such as my right arm to left leg, or the one on my left arm to the one on my forehead. I found this out by accident, because I was simply moving my arm past my forehead, and it felt like the positive and negative poles of two magnets attracting each other. They will almost "stick" together until whatever exchange is finished. I am sure that this is probably related to two parasites exchanging genetic gametes for more egg laying--but it helped heal the sores that they had been keeping open on the skin, for some reason. (They maybe can store eggs for months, for instance.) The itching CAN also occur with small fresh "worms," larvae (little black threads,) other sheaths & fibers, or eggs (fertilized are black and unfertilized are white, I think,) just under the skin like a persistent splinter that is working its way out. But the STINGS and bites, seem to be mainly from fresh new invaders latching on and trying to move in. Usually very sharp & brief, but can then proceed to the stage of small thread or larvae like above. The itching is a neurogenic itch, and NOT histamine-mediated (like a mosquito bite, allergy reaction, or hives) from the personal trials that I have run on how it responds to treatments. It is caused by the triggering of nerve impulses by the parasites, and will NOT respond to the usual anti-itch medicines (benadryl, calydryl, calamine, cortisone, lanacaine) It does respond to the anti-parasite topical agents: DSP, essential oils, salts, vinegar, etc. Please let me know if any of you are having different experiences than what I have said here, since this is just empirical observations, and as such is always a "work in progress."
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| Yes that is exactly the type of thing I'm using. I first learned of them a few months ago from my friend "Maryok" who invited me to this board. They're a product that I don't like to be out of now, and while I don't use them all the time, I like to have them when I need them! The brand I buy is different, (I buy them locally at a health food coop, not the web), but the product is the same. Here's a link to one a little less expensive : http://www.verseo.com/detox.html Hope if you get them, you enjoy their results as I do! karen |
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