Eliminate the bacteria from the body

[Kritters]

Dear TCM

You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. Opinions are like sphincter muscles...we all have them.

Kritters

[violet]

Originally Posted by tcmgpt13

Hi, Violet, I have shared the Western medications I use here before, but I know this sort of thing is easy to miss so I will repeat here. For the viral infections, which my doctor called reactivated infections from eating fish which contained something like cigueterra poison (we cannot be sure as I saw him a few years past the initial infection), I use acyclovir at half the dose originally prescribed for me. Otherwise I get heartburn. I have done this for thirteen months now (with the doctor guessing it may take two years of steady use--all I can say is I hope I can keep my stomach going that long by using herbs to overcome some of the medication's side effects). BTW, I would be tested first to see if viral infections are problem, as the drugs used are so strong and taking them unnecessarily would not be a choice I would make as you can see.

I will be upfront here and say that without also using herbs I don't think the medicine would be enough for me, mainly because I have fluid buildup between the muscle and skin if I just use the Western medication. I would have it whether I use the medication or not. This has always been a problem since puberty and probably ties into my hypothyroidism. Since I do change what I take as far as herbs and since not every formula will suit every person anyway I have not posted these. Sometimes I use some gall bladder formulas from TCM. I also have one which pushes heat down from the head (heat tends to rise in the body as one ages and the kidneys can no longer keep it anchored properly in the body--I do think this has helped me from having terrible head symptoms).

I have been known once to use the Dr. Natura system for cleansing (in the spring a couple years back). I have used the Raintree Nutrition herbs for fungus, cancer, and viral infections (not all at once and I think I posted that protocol in the past too). Quite often I use some TCM herbs to force out flu symptoms from the interior. I do this if I get chills. I have used several TCM formulas for worms, only one of which I know by name and named earlier in this thread. One was formulated for me by the TCM master in my area who ordered special herbs, so I do not know what that one was or what herbs he chose.

As I say I am always switching things around to follow symptoms and time of the year as I learned by studying TCM informally at the acupuncture school. If interested you can find some of my old posts about some of what I have learned.

The other medication I use sometimes is Ivermectin. I do think that this helped too, as the herbal wormers (Old Amish Dewormer is one and I have posted this before as well) did not get rid of all symptoms in this area. I still use Ivermectin from time to time, less often than when I first started using it (my doctor let's me judge when to use them). I feel that perhaps the chemical wormers we use are not as effective as they once were against whatever parasite this might be, as they are used to treat parasites in many animals, most likely building up a resistance to them with overuse everywhere. This medication has helped though. I took albendazole once for five days, but did not notice a lot of change from that one.

I have also used far infrared sauna treatment followed by ozone, not so much lately as I get tired of sitting in the cabinet with nothing to do--mine has the head out so I cannot read. This is so ozone can be used afterwards, if desired.

In all I am not fond of or a fan of medications, but sometimes I think, for some of us, perhaps it is a necessary evil. So far I am not sure there is a cure for us, but I think perhaps we can control most of our symptoms and that takes a good deal of trial and error.

I cannot say that genetics does not play a part in skin cancer, because others wiser than I, who have done research have found that genetic component does play a part in some skin cancers and in these types of skin cancers (not the other types which I also mention in my last post and does encompass a larger group and other races) are found in Caucasions with very fair skin and a Northern European background and especially among those who have a Celtic background. This is not my research.

As I said there is also some connection to celiac disease for some with Morgellons. Celiac disease has been tied to a predisposition to get colon cancer and have thyroid problems and other autoimmune conditions. Well, there are just a whole slew of autoimmune disorders which are tied together, quite loosely perhaps. IMHO I believe that this could be a big issue for many with Morgellons, one, too, which involves having the wrong amounts or not enough killer T cells. When this happens there is a lot of inflammation in the body and also the body cannot fight off illnesses as well as it should. It makes a lot of sense to me, especially since I have learned that a lot of my ancestors had dampness type diseases. These are people I have never met yet their death certificates show me that this was a big issue among those who were Celtic. Still I am not saying "Eureka" this is the answer, the holy Grail, as we are all waiting for research to come in which will explain it better than any of us can at the current time. Right all I can make, as do all of us, is an educated guess.

Thanks so much for all the information.

[Kritters]

I was thinking about the theory TCM brought up about Cancer being genetically predisposed by heritary dna. Specifically from the Celtics.

A thought occurred to me.

I had a fabulous golden retriever many years ago, named Max. He died of cancer.

He was from a good breed, and I purchased him from a very reputable kennel, but I'm not sure if he was from the Celtic heritage. It is possible, I guess. Maybe his ancestors bit a Celt and passed on the cancer gene.

Kritters

[jonsi]

Hi,

tcm, you mentioned that you have fluid buildup between the muscle and skin. I get lymphatic massages (almost weekly for the past two years) and it helps get rid of the puffiness in the armpits, behind the knees, around the neck/chin area, etc.. Just a suggestion

My therapist uses a "lymphstar" machine. Here's is some info:

The lymphatic system is most important in the elimination of toxins from the body. Lymph vessels can become clogged with protein deposits, similar to those in the vascular system. When this occurs, the blockages cause a backup in the flow of lymphatic fluid, resulting in swelling or edema. Consequently, toxic waste matter cannot effectively be released from the body, nor can the immune system function at optimum performance. The lymphatic system and the immune system interact in each moment of human life. It is the “information highway for the immune system.”

The Lymphstar is an hi-tech electronic instrument which has been proven to enhance the flow of lymph. This device is in a class of technology known as vibrational science and it a safe and effective tool used by health professionals and consumers alike. The applications of the Lymphstar Instrument are primarily for detoxification of a sluggish lymphatic system. It is used by applying the transmission head gently on the skin in a recommended sequence of locations, primarily lymph drainage points. It provides “information” in the form of harmonics of sound and light to the energy field of the cells. The result of application is the breaking up of blockages through the repolarization of proteins. When the polarity of the blockages is reversed, the material slowly erodes and safely flows out through natural system channels. The results of this cleansing may positively affect the general health of an individual in many ways. In addition, the frequency information generated by the instrument provides energetic balance and can greatly enhance cellular metabolism. The Lymphstar instrument produces this information by way of a technology called Noble Gas Ionization. A mixture of Xenon, Argon, and Krypton gases are used for optimal results. There is a long tradition of research in the energetic effects of noble gases. The gases are electrically excited which then causes an energy field, or plasma, to emit from the end of the glass tube. Modern engineering through microchip technology provides for a highly sophisticated delivery of rich harmonics, which are multiple overtones of sound and light frequencies. Research in photobiology has shown that cells emit and receive light. All cellular activity has particular measurable light frequencies.

Benefits
-Opens lymph system and moves fluid flow
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-Excellent adjunct to manual lymph drainage techniques
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-Increased energy levels by restoring energy field balance
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Itwl,
~jonsi

ps. to Kritts, sorry about "Max". I had a chocolate lab (not a blondie) that died in 1993 from skin cancer that spread to her lungs... I still miss her and haven't had the courage to get another dog since. But, cats are cool too and they live much longer. My two "inherited" kitties are 18 years old now!

[tcmgpt13]

I have already posted links to skin cancer and the Celts (and Swedes) who seem to have more people susceptible to these problems. There are other genetic linked problems to these groups which again is NOT to say that only these groups have these problems, just that they have a higher percentage of cases. Oh, but I guess only blacks have inherited genetic problems like sickle cell anemia. It could never happen to Celts or Swedes.

Here is another type of genetic problem linked to Celts. Other MDR members post about symptoms which I suspect (but I am not declaring as absolute fact) are spleen and lymphatic problems of some sort. Mucus based problems in the body make it easier for bacteria, viruses, fungus and parasites to survive as moisture creates an environment in which disease organisms more easily thrive. Problems such as sinus, ear, respiratory infections which seem more problematic in some families (from generation to generation). Perhaps Morgellons issues may be linked to a genetic problem which causes excess mucus to form in the body (not as severe as cystic fibrosis). Once again, to be clear, one would not necessarily have to be of Celtic origin to have it arise:

Detection of over 98% cystic fibrosis mutations in a Celtic population - Nature Genetics

Article
Nature Genetics 1, 188 - 191 (1992)
doi:10.1038/ng0692-188
Detection of over 98% cystic fibrosis mutations in a Celtic population
C. Férec1, M.P. Audrezet1, B. Mercier1, H. Guillermit1, P. Moullier1, I. Quere1 & C. Verlingue1

1Centre de Biogénétique, Centre Départemental de Transfusion Sanguine, BP 454, 29275 BREST Cédex, France
We have conducted a large systematic study of 365 cystic fibrosis (CF) chromosomes in a Celtic population from Brittany, France, in which we have been able to identify more than 98% of the cystic fibrosis gene mutations. We detected 19 different CFTR mutations located in 9 exons. Eleven of these mutations have not been described previously and nine of them are presented in this study. The denaturing gradient gel electrophoresis strategy we have used, can be applied to other populations suggesting that population screening for CF on a large scale might be possible.

More about CF and ethnic groups:

Cystic fibrosis: a guide for patient ... - Google Book Search

Here is another disease which is high in Celtic and Swedish populations. The Vikings invaded Scotland a long time ago. I do not think this is connected to Morgellons, but it does indicate another area were certain groups of people seem to have more problems with certain diseases:

Haemochromatosis: "The Celtic Curse" ?(LYNDA'S LOT)?

"Haemochromatosis: "The Celtic Curse"

It's thought just one person was responsible for the genetic condition that is Haemochromatosis. The gene mutated roughly 2,000 years ago, in a time when our ancestor's diet was lacking in iron. Because life spans weren't as long as they are now, people probably didn't live long enough for the condition to trouble them. In fact, knowing their dietary limitations, having extra iron was probably a blessing. So nothing was done by nature to combat the mutation and it spread and prospered. It wasn't until relatively modern times when diets improved and people began to live longer, that the condition became a curse.

Once considered a rare condition, Haemochromatosis is now acknowledged as one of the commonest inherited disorders, affecting one in two hundred people of western Caucasian descent. The hereditary form of the disease is most common among those of northern European ancestry, in particular those of British or Irish descent. It is the most common hereditary disease in Sweden and is caused by two mutations of a gene.

Hereditary Haemochromatosis is mainly caused by a defect in a gene called HFE, which helps regulate the amount of iron absorbed from food. Iron is an essential nutrient found in many foods. The greatest amount is found in red meat and iron-fortified breads and cereals. In the body, iron becomes part of hemoglobin, a molecule in the blood that transports oxygen from the lungs to all body tissues. Healthy people usually absorb about 10 percent of the iron contained in the food they eat, which meets normal dietary requirements. People with Haemochromatosis absorb up to 30 percent of iron. Over time, they absorb and retain between five to 20 times more iron than the body needs. Because the body has no natural way to rid itself of the excess iron, it is stored in body tissues, specifically the liver, heart, and pancreas.

The two known mutations of HFE are C282Y and H63D. C282Y is the most important. In people who inherit C282Y from both parents, the body absorbs too much iron and Haemochromatosis can result. Those who inherit the defective gene from only one parent are carriers for the disease but usually do not develop it; however, they still may have higher than average iron absorption. People who inherit a mutation from each parent are double carriers (homozygous or compound heterozygous). These individuals have a higher absorption of iron from their diet. With years, the increased amount of iron that is stored in the body may result in severe organ damage. Without treatment (regular bleeding), the disease can cause the liver, heart and pancreas to fail. Caught early, the condition causes no problems and life goes on as usual."

I am not saying genetic problems cause Morgellons, but perhaps if present they do allow the illness to more easily flourish in some people while others more readily fight it off or have only mild cases.

[tcmgpt13]

Hi Jonsi,

I was just too tired last night to reply to your post to me, but I do want to thank you for thinking about what I said and posting information which might help many here with the lymph problems I believe co-exist with Morgellons (at least in most who have Morgellons). Interestingly, I have used this type of therapy as well and I do think it helps a lot to keep symptoms dampened down. The practitioner I have in my community uses this same lymph machine. You are right that it is a very powerful machine and does help revive lymph circulation. Recently I have been using a lymph oil on my hands and feet, a formula which is sold by a site which carries Edgar Casey remedies. I think it is helping some too and probably would work better if I were to get a lymph massage therapist (who does manual work, as oil cannot be used with the lymph machine you posted about) to do it all over and work it in properly. I am always cautious though about using skin oils all over the body until I am pretty sure it will not cause an allergic reaction.

LymphoCare Massage Lotion, 8oz.: Baar

Once again thank you so much for thinking of me as well as other members who may benefit from this information too.

best, tcm

[Kritters]

Anything can become an inheritable disease if it becomes part of the DNA. Since NO one knows what causes cancer, and NO one knows what causes Morgellons....it is all speculation by anyone. Fair-skinned people would logically be more susceptible to skin cancer than darker-skinned people. There also might have been a bacterium which was localized to the Scandinavian area just as there are other parasites in other parts of the world, which can alter the DNA and in turn passing diseases congenitally or heriditarily.

There is no point for me to continue any discussion along this vein, since it is merely conjecture at this point.

[tcmgpt13]

Posted by Kritters:

"Since NO one knows what causes cancer, and NO one knows what causes Morgellons....it is all speculation by anyone."

So glad that others here are starting to see that this is true about everything posted on MDR. It does seem a bit strange to me to hear many posters on this forum declare they know what causes Morgellons when all of the theories any of us have is based on speculation and conjecture.

[GPeaches]

This is a real wealth of information. It seems you have been through alot.Maybe if we all share we can help more and more and more find the joy of Good health once again.

[Katinka]

We're all doing the best we can, aren't we?