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Old March 19th, 2009, 08:54 PM
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One other thing that I don't know if you have made the correlation- Mel says he is also fighting MRSA- apparently with Morgellons, MRSA feeds on the infection too. He believes that his protocol is also eliminating the MRSA too. But it is another heads up.

Another really scary thing (I don't know if I already posted it- but since I still cannot link to sites yet I have to ask that) you go to Mel's site and look in the forum and look at the post entitiled "Extremely compelling information" - when I read it, I got a major pucker factor. This whole Morgellons thing could be HUGE- and there may be good reason the Gov isn't too interested in finding out what causes it.
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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:04 PM
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"This whole Morgellons thing could be HUGE- and there may be good reason the Gov isn't too interested in finding out what causes it."

Yeah, Mtnblue~ I think most of us have that clue by now. thanks, tho'....

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Old March 19th, 2009, 09:27 PM
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Mtnblue,

I read through that thread and didn't see anything puke provoking. Can you clue me in?

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Old March 21st, 2009, 01:56 AM
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Kitters-

If you are referring to the article, it states that in the Oklahoma studies they did skin scrapings from 20 DOP patients and 18 of the 20 has evidence of Collembola (an microscopic insect called springtails). They are the most abundant of all macroscopic animals in topsoil. They are frequently found in leaf litter and other decaying material and they are responsible for the control and dissemination of soil microorganisms. The article asks "imagine what a couple of thousands of these guys must feel like crawling and biting under your skin"

The study asks why they are infesting the human body. In some DNA samples taken from the same patients bodies, they found a bacteria called Pseudomonas Putida. Upon further research, they coincidentally found the Colembola really loves feeding on P. Putida better than any other of the soil bacteria available to it. So in effect, the Morgellons sufferer has become like a rotting log or at least a favorable home to both soil bacteria and soil based pests and that the Colembola and P. Putida are both perfectly happy living in our bodies. P. Putida also happens to be one of the core building blocks of Genetically Modified Agriculture.

As a sidenote, another soil bacteria that may have some influence on this whole thing (since they are talking soil bacteria now) is Bacillus Subtillus. B. Subtillis has the ability to grow living, moving fibers (fibers that move, writhe, and wriggle). So there is a bacteria that can actually grow fibers and the movement is actually due to the growth of the bacteria (maybe that is why the fibers removed from Morgellons victims lesions stop wiggling after 20 minutes- because they were removed from their food source. )

P. Putida also has another amazing ability- by tweaking the DNA code by a gene or two, it also has the ability to turn toxic oils spills into a biodegradable plastic (read plastic hairs). When fed glucose, it has a bi-product of tolene. Maybe the hard plastic bits that are forced out of the skin of a M sufferers body may have something to do with this too.

Tolene is also a compound that has been found in M Sufferers bodies.

Again - these are not my findings- I am just paraphrasing what I read from a blog post called "does this identification mean anything? I do not know" and since I cannot post the link (until I have made 15 posts) you will have to do a google search to find the original article. THis guy does another follow up article that is just as interesting.

I hope this is what you were asking for- if not clarify your question. I am not a scientist, yet I have had a little college chemistry and organic chemistry, but by now I have probably forgotten a lot more of it than I have retained.

Hope this helps.
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Kitters-

If you are referring to the article, it states that in the Oklahoma studies they did skin scrapings from 20 DOP patients and 18 of the 20 has evidence of Collembola (an microscopic insect called springtails). They are the most abundant of all macroscopic animals in topsoil. They are frequently found in leaf litter and other decaying material and they are responsible for the control and dissemination of soil microorganisms. The article asks "imagine what a couple of thousands of these guys must feel like crawling and biting under your skin"

The study asks why they are infesting the human body. In some DNA samples taken from the same patients bodies, they found a bacteria called Pseudomonas Putida. Upon further research, they coincidentally found the Colembola really loves feeding on P. Putida better than any other of the soil bacteria available to it. So in effect, the Morgellons sufferer has become like a rotting log or at least a favorable home to both soil bacteria and soil based pests and that the Colembola and P. Putida are both perfectly happy living in our bodies. P. Putida also happens to be one of the core building blocks of Genetically Modified Agriculture.

As a sidenote, another soil bacteria that may have some influence on this whole thing (since they are talking soil bacteria now) is Bacillus Subtillus. B. Subtillis has the ability to grow living, moving fibers (fibers that move, writhe, and wriggle). So there is a bacteria that can actually grow fibers and the movement is actually due to the growth of the bacteria (maybe that is why the fibers removed from Morgellons victims lesions stop wiggling after 20 minutes- because they were removed from their food source. )

P. Putida also has another amazing ability- by tweaking the DNA code by a gene or two, it also has the ability to turn toxic oils spills into a biodegradable plastic (read plastic hairs). When fed glucose, it has a bi-product of tolene. Maybe the hard plastic bits that are forced out of the skin of a M sufferers body may have something to do with this too.

Tolene is also a compound that has been found in M Sufferers bodies.

Again - these are not my findings- I am just paraphrasing what I read from a blog post called "does this identification mean anything? I do not know" and since I cannot post the link (until I have made 15 posts) you will have to do a google search to find the original article. THis guy does another follow up article that is just as interesting.

I hope this is what you were asking for- if not clarify your question. I am not a scientist, yet I have had a little college chemistry and organic chemistry, but by now I have probably forgotten a lot more of it than I have retained.

Hope this helps.
I was one of the Morgellons demographic who had springtails in the beginning. Ironically surfing the other night the state I was infected in Colorado had springtails as the most common insect living there.

Imagine that.



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Old March 21st, 2009, 02:50 AM
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mtnblue......Just thought I'd post a few links here on the bacteria in question.

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Bacillus subtilis Final Risk Assessment | Biotechnology Program Under Toxic Substances Control Act (TSCA) | US EPA

Genome Project Result

Bacillus subtilis. This organism was one of the first bacteria studied, and was named Vibrio subtilis in 1835 and renamed Bacillus subtilis in 1872. It is one of the most well characterized bacterial organisms, and is a model system for cell differentiation and development. This soil bacterium can divide asymmetrically, producing an endospore that is resistant to environmental factors such as heat, acid, and salt, and which can persist in the environment for long periods of time. The endospore is formed at times of nutritional stress, allowing the organism to persist in the environment until conditions become favorable. Prior to the decision to produce the spore the bacterium might become motile, through the production of flagella, and also take up DNA from the environment through the competence system.

The sporulation process is complex and involves the coordinated regulation of hundreds of genes in the genome. Environmental signals are sensed by bacterial two-component systems that initiate a phosphorelay that transfers phosphate to one of the key early transcriptional regulators, Spo0A. This initial step results in the coordinated asymmetric cellular division and endospore formation through multiple stages that produces a single spore from the mother cell. This cascade of gene regulation is intensively studied.


SCOP: Protein: LicT from Bacillus subtilis <a href="http://www.ncbi.nih.gov/Taxonomy/Browser/wwwtax.cgi?id=1423&lvl=0" class="taxid">[TaxId: 1423]</a>

Microbial Cell Factories | Full text | Production of surfactin from Bacillus subtilis MZ-7 grown on pharmamedia commercial medium

Abstract
Background

Commercial medium (Pharmamedia) was investigated for the production of surfactin by Bacillus subtilis MZ-7. Different media (defined, semi-defined, and complex media) were compared for the production of surfactin after fixing the least influential variables in standardized fermentation conditions. Carbohydrate and nitrogen supplements were also tried to improve production in Pharmamedia.
Results

Surfactin production was confirmed using PCR along with other analytical techniques and monitored by RP-HPLC and MALDI-TOF-MS. We found that optimized and brain heart infusion media were best for production of surfactin (280 mg/L) and a relatively comparable production with Pharmamedia (220 mg/L), however, supplementing Pharmamedia with Fe+ (4.0 mM) and sucrose (2 g/L) leads to a maximum production of about (300 mg/L).
Conclusion

Cottonseed-derived medium proved to be a suitable substrate for the production of bioactive substances including surfactin, a useful compound in both medical and biotechnological fields. The medium provided not only higher product accumulations but at considerably lower cost with potential for large scale industrial applications.


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May it be noted that I do not have Morgellons, but upon reading some of those scientific articles (even with my limited chemistry experience), I think I feel the "brain fog" descending upon me. I hope someone who is a lot smarter than I is doing a lot of research on this connection. In my "gut" I get the feeling that there may be some legs to this avenue.
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One more link I cannot add here is that same post on Mels site. It has been updated by John Burgstiner. In my opinion, this guy is really bright, but he explains stuff in a way that the common man (like myself) can understand. The brain fog is lowering and even though I don't have this thing, I think it is prudent to strengthen my immune system to the point that it will never ever get a foothold in my body. John explains his opinion of the vectors and methods he feels you can fight off this scourge (and he pretty much doesn't even mention Mel's protocol). He seems to think that other herbs may have the same effect.
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Old March 21st, 2009, 11:17 PM
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Great news, I hope it is a permanent solution and I wish Mel continued success.

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