support group meeting in Tampa

[Baraka Obam]

YOU ARE RIGHT, I have NO conclusions, never, I have the most agonizing idea that the vector for serious disease lived inside humans and other living things for a long time, now it is awake and stronger, mutated, allowing attack from many things. I know nothing but my skill of observing and organization is more than excellent. I have seen this it may be normal but it also may be the route cause of serious disease. I know this it builds tubes, these tubes transport somthing, when and if you see it you will know it is living, the yellow goo alone allows it to morph. I wonder if after it burns out if it can be brought back to life,

I like that evil TCM, here is what she endevored to find

The Universal magazine - Google Books

, she is the other side, when everyone says its the bird of paradise flying up your nose she said lets see if there is info to prove or disprove. It takes time for either aspect.

If TCM can find the article about 1805 and a resercher with a normal MICROSCOPE that found this EXACT same thing, is there more mentions of it elswhere. hmmm. I can not find it!!! Was there some plague then, Yes many! Is there a plague now, Yes many! There will always be pathogens. What is next?

[Sadsack]

The idea of "tubes" make sense to me.

When I first read up on M I thought it was the same as the old disease described by Sir Thomas Browne, and that a change in the planet had something to do with reawakening it.

I had discovered very early that oxygen "killed" these things associated with it. (Long story how I realized that). So I hypothesized that as carbon dioxide in the atmosphere rose, then oxygen decreased, and that this lessening allowed an ancient disease to re-emerge from dormancy.

But I don't think so anymore. This has Man's fingerprints on it (IMO).

This is strange, but worth thinking about. Is it connected? I don't know:

Terrible mutations may turn humans into plants or animals - Pravda.Ru

SS

PS - How on earth did TCM find that article???

[tcmgpt13]

Here's an old post from bad_boy on doing searches. Looks like bad_boy's post has more than one dead link so I am posting a new current list of metasearch engines. Given the economy it's no wonder links disappear. Mostly I find all I need on google as far as searches (such as the link discussing blood I sent to baracka) but it is good to have other resources too:

Mega Search Search Engines (this site has a list of other metasearch engines)

MetaCrawlerWeb Search Home Page

KartOO : The First Interface Mapping Metasearch Engine

The Pandia Metasearch Engine - searching the Internet with many search engines at once!

Search Engines

Originally Posted by Bad_Boy

All the recent discussion about search engines seemed to be a good time to launch a more detailed post. This is in hopes that the information here will help the folks newer to the web and give those who have experience in specialized searches a chance to share their favorites. A definition of search engine and a basic overview of how they work can be found here.

A person can't bring up any other search engines without first mentioning this site's syntax SE: it's the little field up in the right hand corner with the "search" button and magnifying glass. Instruction on how it may be used. (there is a wealth of information in the posts from many different folks here). Wild cards, a character standing in for a single letter or a group of characters, may be used if spelling is an issue. Ours is an asterisk (*). Hence, a search for M*llons could theoretically yeild Morgellons, Mergallnons, Morjellons, etc.

There are other references to be found too (help, anyone?).

As one last mention, all that glitters is not gold. Whois can sometimes provide some clues as to site origin. You can click here for the University of Washington's suggestions about evaluating an author's credibility.

By the way, if anyone's interested in why google became so popular,it might be because it was one of the first engines not dependent on Meta Tags:
History of Google - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Happy hunting

BB

Here's another post which addresses research issues (2manyfibers):

Originally Posted by 2manyfibers

The Drudge Report posted a link to this article on the CDC investigation in Morgellons today. For those that aren't familiar with the Drudge Report, it is an on-line newspaper of sorts that has some original content but mainly links to other breaking news stories from other sources. It also has numerous links to major newspapers and television news sites around the world in addition to many other things. The link they currently show regarding Morgellons is to a brief article - the "headline" is " Unexplained 'Skin-Crawling' Disease Prompts CDC Investigation... ". The Drudge Reports generally gets more than 20 million hits a day and has become a prime "breaking news" source for many other news outlets in recent years. Thus, by the article being posted on there it will get a lot of eyes seeing it. Here's the link to the Drudge Report:

DRUDGE REPORT 2009®

Here's the link to the story itself:

Mystery Disease Gives Sensation Of 'Bugs Eating Skin' - Health News Story - WKMG Orlando

For anyone interested, look on the right hand side of the page on the home page of the Drudge Report for the "Drudge Reference Desk". In addition to the numerous links to news and other sources shown on the home page, the reference desk is a fantastic resource for researching most anything you want around the world. It has links to practically anything you can imagine including lots of local newspapers in most countries around the world, government agencies.........all kinds of stuff. It's a great resource for anyone that wants to research anything. Here's a link to the reference desk:

Reference, Facts, News - Free and Family-friendly Resources - Refdesk.com

[Keavy]

Hey Sadsack,
I'll be there tomorrow. I have some samples of colloidal silver, just a couple....bottles are pricy.
I have 11 samples of my Bentonite/DE/Neem oil/H2O2/Silver mixture,
and 5 more with ionic copper colloid and tetracycline in addition to the other stuff.
I also have some bentonite and DE samples, and some the H2O2/Silver disinfectant Jo was talking about.

I also have some Neem Oil, Copper, Silver, and tetracycline in a DSMO base that should carry the stuff into the skin if anyone wants to try it.

I have some stuff put aside for you.

I'll be the guy in the back with tattoos, sitting with my wife, and looking confused..


See you there

[Sadsack]

OK, Keavy -

Will be looking for you.
Thank you for putting those samples together.

SS

[Baraka Obam]

Here is a fellow that number one DOES not have morgellons, he and his wife are coming to OBSERVE a meeting. He will be trying to sell items he makes from exactly the ingrediants we are already taking. I do not know about everyone else but anonymity is somthing I do enjoy, people with Morgellons will not be running around blasting every ear they see with who they SAW at the meeting!!!!!!!

Then there was the fact that he was UPSET with us over his first post to GIVE us things and maybe we didn't want free HELP.

I have a very strange feeling about people that are the FREE HELPERS OF MANKIND that get upset if you do not do what they want

Why does he have to be there anyway, is he a huckster?

Last but not least I am afraid of people covered in tattoos, what is it that has them do such stuff are they capable of rational thinking or do they just do what is popular at the moment.

[Sadsack]

Hey, Baraka -

Sorry to get you so upset. If I knew ahead of time that you would come only if the meeting was "closed" then we could have talked about it.

We've had people there who talk about various herb & supplements, one who demonstrated a type of zapper, we have non-Morgellons friends and family come at times, we've had a number of doctors...

There is nothing to fear. Keavy only had free samples of things he put together, using things that many of us have used, but not quite in the way they were prepared. If these recipes are effective, then he will go forward and attempt to market them.

We spend time talking about general support issues, look for validation from one another, compare signs & symptoms (including visually), etc. Sometimes we cry on each other's shoulders (figuratively) when we need it.

Sometimes we talk about the scientific stuff that has been done and what is being proposed and try to make sense of it.

I love the meeting. I am not the least disturbed by "guests", and I think everyone else is OK with it, too.

SS

PS -
You really MUST be Barack Obama if you are that recognizable!!!

[Baraka Obam]

I am hardly ever upset my little friend, BUT I am very weary. I am weary of the angels delivered before me on golden wings, the first thing in my mind is who is this AH! I do not run to kiss his ring, I get out the shotgun.

In the very first place I do not like crowds, yes I am a private person, second place YES I am very well known, a celebrity in certain circles. Is that somthing to be proud or happy about, do you see the actors beating people up all the time for bothering them. I can relate. Is it a laughing matter, maybe to you but not to me. I take it quite serious.

If you knew the pain the grapevine can be to a person well known by the community.........You would never make light of the problem, have you turned into Sadsac the bully, You can get a tatoo that says (KILL THEM ALL LET GOD SORT THEM OUT) then do a, na na.... na na.... na..... na Br ak ka O Bam afraid of tattoos.

Yes, I am afraid, I have enough scars on my body already!!!!! and that ain't funny either. I have paid my dues to believe as I like and feel as I will. It is a mistake to make the meeting a football game and to bring people that do not suffer this in any way into the fold (EXCEPT FAMILY MEMBERS of course) You may want them there to cry on but myself I was out of tears a long time ago reality has a way of making that happen. Kiss kiss lets do lunch before I go where few people know me, bought a pass to heaven from the Catholic Church before they went out of print.

[jonsi]

BO wrote "YES I am very well known, a celebrity in certain circles."

Are you ashamed to have "Morgellons"? I don't understand why you don't want to go to a support group. If you are famous, you should stand up for us and not shy away from what you have. I doubt anyone would recognize you at the support group anyways. Just go and get some support!

Who cares if someone with tattoos wants to attend the meeting. He sounds like he is knowledgeable on homeopathic & natural medicine. (BO, how's the ivermectin working so far? haha).

Itwl,
~jonsi

[Keavy]

I understand your need for privacy Baraka.... I'm a musician in a small town, and everyone here recognizes me, It can be a pain in the *** sometimes.

Now to brass tacks, so far you have said I make potions, asked if I was a warlock, and *****ed about me to other people. Well I'm a big boy, and I'm not a stupid man. If you need to say something, say it to me.
Seems to me you complain a lot that no one listens to you and your thoughts, but when someone outside your group (myself in this case), tries, you complain about that also. So what do you want, people to hear you , or a reason to complain? I didn't try to sell anything buddy, you are in no position to judge me or my motives, anymore than I have the right to judge you. You don't know me, so don't you dare to label me, if you are too timid to even respond to my messages, and validate your accusations.

So I have tattoos , so what? I'm a musician and an artist, what can I say, I like them, and they are art, not scars. I did meet a man today who has tattoos to cover scars from lesions, is he also suspect because he has ink?

Look man, I have had issues in my life, not morgs, but I have watched people in my family die of cancer, painfully and slowly, and I have lost a kid, Bad things happen to good people sometimes. It sucks, but people must push forward, and look for answers.

I talked with the doctor in depth, I have a far better grasp of this than you think, and I can empathize with the implications, even if I don't suffer physically.
Doctor Reed even took samples, and seemed interested in my ideas.
Sorry to bust your bubble buddy, but it isn't all about you, and if anyone wants free samples I have them even now. I have posted exactly what I'm making, and how I make it so people here can make their own if they choose.
I've offered up a couple ideas for disinfectants and things without petroleum or chemical products added, and I haven't asked anyone for one red penny.

To say that a guy from a town of 5000 people 100 miles from Tampa will compromise your secrecy is just ludicrous. If you don't want to meet me that's just peachy with me, if you want to hurl baseless accusations, that's Ok too, you can do what you want, but at least have the stones to bring your issues and accusations to me if you are gonna talk about me.

You don't need a PHD to have ideas, or to be intelligent. I could have just marketed my stuff, but instead, I want to make sure they offer some benefit.
I don't sell useless products. I also will be the first person to say that I can't cure anything, it's way beyond the scope of my knowledge. I do know there isn't gonna be a miracle cure tomorrow, and whether it be naturally occurring, nano-tech, or the sponge it's gonna be a ***** to kill.

I understand you already use a lot of this stuff I have, but I can probably get it for pennies on the dollar from what you have been charged for it, and I would venture to say that my knowledge of how to use them to their optimum benefit far exceeds yours. (Nothing Personal and I could be wrong... You may be a really famous purveyor of potions). Anyway Baraka, don't put me in a box, and don't talk about me like I'm not here. Deal with me if you have issues with me. I think I can manage to answer your concerns in a intelligent manner.
Peace
Keavy
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Sadsack, sorry I had to leave early today. I did learn a lot, and you are truly a wealth of knowledge on the subject. Tell Dr. Reed and the 2 other folks I said hello next time you see them, and I would be more than happy to attend anytime. Being there today did help me see the psychological side of this, and the fact that there were 3 very different personalities, with common issues gave me some insight. I also have a better understanding of the issues with keeping a train of thoughts and words... (brain fog some people call it.)
That's something that you can't see and hear on a message board. I'm going to keep researching and hope to see you again. If my attending causes problems, I won't force the issue.
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Everyone

Look if I overstepped my bounds in my retort, I apologize. I realize that the offended party is a senior member and has more right to be here than me.
I just hate being talked about as if I'm not going to see this y 'know.

I have no doubt that scammers come here all the time. I hate the fact that people with no knowledge of a product or the end result will market them.
I could have just sold my stuff, but I choose to educate myself first, on both the need, and the product. I learned about morgellons from this forum. I was looking up DE and a forum post came up. I have found that I can learn more by talking with people, than I can reading studies. Especially in a disease such as this one, where the medical community has largely ignored it.
My website has nothing on it now except for some product information on Clay. I sell clay, that's what I do. I can sell you 100 pounds of Bentonite right now if you want it. I saw that many of the Morg Creams and Cures (Which by the way are advertised all over his forum) are mostly useless crap with some essential oils thrown in. I just think I can do better than that. I have some of the best healing clays in the world, and I know how to use them to good effect. I did research on what has worked for people, and tried to figure out how and why it may have worked, and if possible incorporate a few products in conjunction with each other to produce a desired effect.
So how then do I determine whether it works. Well since this forum provided me with much of what I have learned, I offered the results to the people of this forum. The offer still stands. you cover 4.80 postage (my cost) and I'll ship you some bentonite, DE and the product for lesions I made. All I ask is honest feedback.
I promise you guys, I will never sell stuff here. Everyone knows I sell the stuff, and I'm easy to find off the forum.
Like I said, sorry if I overstepped.