Machine able to cure?

[Knight~Ryder]

Can someone please explain to me more of what on earth this machine is?

http://www.rifelabs.com/

Boy o boy, the more I search about what I may have, I learn about stuff I would have never of found out.
Why are the machines so expensive and do they work?

[Knight~Ryder]

So basically you are saying, if I have the money then I should go for it?
I guess it wouldn't hurt to try, I just need to know a little more about it before purchasing such an expensive product.
How come many people here have not discussed this method of recovery yet?

I am willing to try it, if the reports are great for others.

[williamthegreat]

I totally agree and have always thought that the original Morgellons symptoms were connected to Lyme disease. The finding of strongyloids (nematodes) however does not fit in that catagory unless Strongyloids Steroralis has always been a parasite, that could only reproduce ( A full life cycle) in immune surpressed individuals. This could be and would mean exactly what you said.( I just had to put an equation in here) Lyme disease plus Strongyloid = Symptoms of full blown morgellons. Candida plus Strongyloid = Strongyloids Sterorlis. The original theory that Springtails were the carriers was replaced by Nematodes in the end (No pun intended). WTG

[linnysue]

Originally Posted by Knight~Ryder

So basically you are saying, if I have the money then I should go for it?
I guess it wouldn't hurt to try, I just need to know a little more about it before purchasing such an expensive product.
How come many people here have not discussed this method of recovery yet?

I am willing to try it, if the reports are great for others.

Knight~Ryder, although you didn't ask for it, my personal opinion is that you start off simple with bubba's treatment steps:
http://www.morgellons-disease-resear...php?topic=30.0

Take it slow, see how you respond to the treatment plan, and then move on to the more expensive equipment eventually. I'm not sure I would purchase the rife machine unless I knew I was specifically dealing with Lyme's disease, but hey, what do I know anyway. LOL! I did purchase the infrared sauna, so maybe I should lecture myself instead!

Knight~Ryder, I mean no harm, I'm just being a mom. Actually I always wanted a son!

[Franky]

Knight~Ryder I have to agree with Linda here. The rife machine has done very good for bubba as she has said here before. But like she has said, most users use it for Lyme disease. That's one reason its not mentioned here a lot. Most people are discussing morgellons treatments. Also that is a whole other field of therapy that lots of people do not want to try or do not know of, to be quite frank with you.

You are very worried and confused right now and so would I be. You need to take a deep breath and take it one step at a time. I would try the steps on the treatment plan and give a fair chance for it to kick in. Many have found some relief with it. At the moment there is no cure that we are aware of at the moment. But you can treat it and keep it under control and many here have done and my close Friend as well.

[silverlark]

The theory behind the Lyme and morg connection is basically this... the Lyme bacteria is suppressing the immune system and causing other co-infections to establish themselves. If we kill the Lyme bacteria and improve our immune system, our bodies will be able to fight off the co-infections. The heavier the Lyme load, the more immunocompromised the individual is...and therefore the morg infection is worse. Many people have a mild to moderate morgellons infection (like you). Others who have a severely decreased immune system are experiencing a more severe morgellons infection with several open skin lesions, and many other problems. The key to getting rid of your morg co-infection is to get rid of underlying problem...the Lyme or other immunocompromising infection.

"Sorry I dont agree with this theory at all.................Your immune system is not capable of going outside your skin and attacking morgeliions,,,Internally perhaps yes.........The morgellions i have is not the open sores but got on my hair and skin through contamination from the original infection.............I have used Gasoline and Ammonia in the bathtub (Gasoline WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH THE MORGELLIONS)
I did have a little bit of relive from Ammonia the whole bottle in the bathtub..............

Even if your immune system was at 100% and you did not have an internal infection or lyme your immunity would NOT be able to touch the Morgellions on the outside of the body...

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The second part is for the the newbie (i think Night someting?) regarding Rife devices....

I have personally built James Bare rife machine from the ground up.........Best I can say is that it helps with pain and if your not at the right carrier freq and audio harmonics you wont get anything to vibrate and hopefully explode.....My research with James Bare Machine was that i did hit a Resonant freq for im guessing lyme or perhaps morg not really sure what exacltly my infection is, but i was able to blow some of it up yes just like taking a new drug and feeling the die off..The freq used was 3552 Hz with the carrier of 27.3 MHz Carrier(whatever the experimental channel is cant rem 14 or 22)

Another research has posted + results using modified carrier frequencies yes going through all the ranges of MHZ with Audio piggbacking the RF wave. his results showed that Pathogentic organsims would blow up only if the MHZ and AUDIO matched the Organism..

I have personal experiance from using the B3 Hand held Rife device and I used 4 freq sets from 2 books for Lyme which I can say did a little bit(and works best on the inital dose before adaptation occurs)
But I quickly wrote back and told them even with a 10 watt amplifer it wasnt powerful enough or the exact freq was not being used A downside is also it has a fixed carrier freq of i think 2 Mhz something which was one of Rife's Original carrier Freq used for the contact devices.. I think a machine capable of modulating the Carrier freq as well as the audio harmonics along with channel sweeping will produce the results people want...


Here is a pdf file i have at my website explaining a few facts of rife machines all of which today varriants are based on.

http://silversuntree.com/Documents/f...dfallacies.pdf


THIS IS THE $10000000 Question Which machine works best for what conditions and what machine works the best ,and who is lying and who is telling the truth...
(Once all garbage is cleaned out in the rife industry and more testimoniey results come in the valididy of various devices will stand out-------This is what you have to go on for now when deciding what to buy

I am in fact thinkg about getting a n EMEM3D unit which may have more power for lyme disease than the other devices.......

I have found that Jim's Bare's device was capable of what he said it could do at the right freq,,,Unfortanely for me it was not capable of getting the deep rooted infections before they adapted and thus NO FREQ HAVE WORKED SINCE THAT DAY for actaully blowing them up....I belive they have adapted both to the light and the MHZ carrier freq as well as the Audio Freq....I strongly belive that Ultrasonic is the way to go for these damn things(sorry about the languge), when you have been at war for 8 yrs you will understand... ( I dont use the machine any more due to the effects where too strong and it was throughing the bodies balance way off, but it did do wonders for the first time treatments until adaptation etc

I am also looking into UV radiation.. The question here is what nM of light or wavelength is going to be effective at lyme and moregellions which is Unk right now...

People have also had good results from the Doug Device for Lyme Disease and i think this is based on pulsed Magnetic fields??

Thats all i can type for one day

By
Corbin
Silverlark@yahoo.com

[silverlark]

The theory behind the Lyme and morg connection is basically this... the Lyme bacteria is suppressing the immune system and causing other co-infections to establish themselves. If we kill the Lyme bacteria and improve our immune system, our bodies will be able to fight off the co-infections. The heavier the Lyme load, the more immunocompromised the individual is...and therefore the morg infection is worse. Many people have a mild to moderate morgellons infection (like you). Others who have a severely decreased immune system are experiencing a more severe morgellons infection with several open skin lesions, and many other problems. The key to getting rid of your morg co-infection is to get rid of underlying problem...the Lyme or other immunocompromising infection.

"Sorry I dont agree with this theory at all.................Your immune system is not capable of going outside your skin and attacking morgeliions,,,Internally perhaps yes.........The morgellions i have is not the open sores but got on my hair and skin through contamination from the original infection.............I have used Gasoline and Ammonia in the bathtub (Gasoline WOULD NOT EVEN TOUCH THE MORGELLIONS)
I did have a little bit of relive from Ammonia the whole bottle in the bathtub..............

Even if your immune system was at 100% and you did not have an internal infection or lyme your immunity would NOT be able to touch the Morgellions on the outside of the body...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The second part is for the the newbie (i think Night someting?) regarding Rife devices....

I have personally built James Bare rife machine from the ground up.........Best I can say is that it helps with pain and if your not at the right carrier freq and audio harmonics you wont get anything to vibrate and hopefully explode.....My research with James Bare Machine was that i did hit a Resonant freq for im guessing lyme or perhaps morg not really sure what exacltly my infection is, but i was able to blow some of it up yes just like taking a new drug and feeling the die off..The freq used was 3552 Hz with the carrier of 27.3 MHz Carrier(whatever the experimental channel is cant rem 14 or 22)

Another research has posted + results using modified carrier frequencies yes going through all the ranges of MHZ with Audio piggbacking the RF wave. his results showed that Pathogentic organsims would blow up only if the MHZ and AUDIO matched the Organism..

I have personal experiance from using the B3 Hand held Rife device and I used 4 freq sets from 2 books for Lyme which I can say did a little bit(and works best on the inital dose before adaptation occurs)
But I quickly wrote back and told them even with a 10 watt amplifer it wasnt powerful enough or the exact freq was not being used A downside is also it has a fixed carrier freq of i think 2 Mhz something which was one of Rife's Original carrier Freq used for the contact devices.. I think a machine capable of modulating the Carrier freq as well as the audio harmonics along with channel sweeping will produce the results people want...


Here is a pdf file i have at my website explaining a few facts of rife machines all of which today varriants are based on.

http://silversuntree.com/Documents/f...dfallacies.pdf


THIS IS THE $10000000 Question Which machine works best for what conditions and what machine works the best ,and who is lying and who is telling the truth...
(Once all garbage is cleaned out in the rife industry and more testimoniey results come in the valididy of various devices will stand out-------This is what you have to go on for now when deciding what to buy

I am in fact thinkg about getting a n EMEM3D unit which may have more power for lyme disease than the other devices.......

I have found that Jim's Bare's device was capable of what he said it could do at the right freq,,,Unfortanely for me it was not capable of getting the deep rooted infections before they adapted and thus NO FREQ HAVE WORKED SINCE THAT DAY for actaully blowing them up....I belive they have adapted both to the light and the MHZ carrier freq as well as the Audio Freq....I strongly belive that Ultrasonic is the way to go for these damn things(sorry about the languge), when you have been at war for 8 yrs you will understand... ( I dont use the machine any more due to the effects where too strong and it was throughing the bodies balance way off, but it did do wonders for the first time treatments until adaptation etc

I am also looking into UV radiation.. The question here is what nM of light or wavelength is going to be effective at lyme and moregellions which is Unk right now...

People have also had good results from the Doug Device for Lyme Disease and i think this is based on pulsed Magnetic fields??

Thats all i can type for one day

By
Corbin
Silverlark@yahoo.com

[Brenda]

silverlark~how long have you been battling the disease that you have? how many different types of treatment have you tried? you seem very angry and i hope that you will find comfort here and stop tearin off on mad chases with your keyboard. a "doubting thomas" you seem to be and it seems that you want to be well and you want to be well NOW.(which ain't gonna happen btw) the length of time we've dealt with this i know affects each personality differently but we need to be courteous of one another, for i think we've all been through the scare of a lifetime with it. i appreciate reading the posts of people who know more than i do, medically, physically and scientifically, it helps me understand a little more, but sometimes the things you say scares me. brenda

[Brenda]

silverlark~how long have you been battling the disease that you have? how many different types of treatment have you tried? you seem very angry and i hope that you will find comfort here and stop tearin off on mad chases with your keyboard. a "doubting thomas" you seem to be and it seems that you want to be well and you want to be well NOW.(which ain't gonna happen btw) the length of time we've dealt with this i know affects each personality differently but we need to be courteous of one another, for i think we've all been through the scare of a lifetime with it. i appreciate reading the posts of people who know more than i do, medically, physically and scientifically, it helps me understand a little more, but sometimes the things you say scares me. brenda

[TGH]

Silverlark,

We welcome you to this site, and I really don't mean to be confrontational but I have to say I am with Brenda on your posts. Especially the one where you say that you bathed in gasoline and ammonia. Individually or together, these are potentially deadly!!! Now this scares me that you have reached such extremes and your thought processes have allowed you to take such risks!!! (All the gasoline would have taken for a catastrophe would be static electricity in the air!!! Ammonia is used for cleaning 'hard to clean' stuff and I believe it is considered a poison which could seep through the skin or any open sore and enter your system and actually poison you!!!) Have you found a doctor that can help you yet? Email 'bubba' privately as she has a list of docs treating Morgellons that may be able help you. Also, I can personally attest to the fact that the 'Treatment Steps' are effective. They have safe products that you can find in the home along with products that work for many of us that you can buy over the web (Eco-vie is great!!! for many), that you can bathe in and not run any risk of killing yourself!!! Please, please, slow down, think things through, consult your common sense and listen to some of us that are improving our conditions by following the 'Treatment Steps' and other good solid safe suggestions from some of our members.
We do care...please take care and be safe. Keep the faith for a cure...and in the mean time, take care to keep your sanity, (I always sign off with this.)
Therese
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Morgellons