Symptoms of a Spiritual Awakening

[tcmgpt13]

I am sorry Carla that you felt it necessary to remove parts of my post (6) which were neither disrepectful to you, Pat or any others who do not view Icke the same way I do, nor did I put other people down because they have another viewpoint about him. I wish I could say the same about what you have posted here and am deeply hurt that you would say these things rather than pm me simply because I disagree with what you believe about Icke. This being a large world we cannot all agree with everything another person believes. I am sad that you feel that all men are allowed to do as they want to do, simply because they are a man. Anyway, I hope you will allow me to express a different view about Ickes as I have in my next post (10). I was unaware until I posted it how you had chopped my prior post (6). I sincerely hope this will not happen once more.

Originally Posted by carla

TCM I would have thought for someone who reads so much you would have kept an open mind until you actually watched the video instead of quoting a load of anti -Icke crap from a wilkipedia type site.
Isn't that what they say about us and our familys.
''They believe Fibers are protuding out of their skin and eating into their brains. They are all a bit nuts .''
If he did get some one pregnant and run off so what.Thats what men do. Big Deal . (i couldn't find anything about it but I didn't like looking as his private life is his buisness)
Listen to what he is saying about control and you are providing the perfect example.
He is not about making money at all and no one fired him.
He had the world at his feet and was about to become the next star of the BBC when he resigned.
This short clip from Wogan says everything to me.
carla x

YouTube - David Icke On Wogan

[carla]

We are being poisioned by the likes of Monsanto,you have agreed with me a thousand times, so what is your problem with Ike.
I think he gets to close to the truth for some people.
I 'm sorry you feel that I am not intelligent enough to know who is speaking the truth.
I believe George Bush is a murderer of innocent children too. I must be unhinged .


carla xxx

[chester]

A good test of the spirits, according to the GOOD BOOK...is this: "Who do they say Jesus is?" The answer is....Jesus is GOD in the flesh. So....when you read this mans "truths"....look for who he says Jesus is. Does he pass this biblical test? Get to the core question first, before you eat the fruit.

[pat]

I have no problem with people disagreeing over issues, but I think it can be said more concisely than posting great masses of outdated material on a thread that is neither relevant and is,frankly tedious.
I am not interested in what was said the best part of 20 yrs ago by Icke-who grew up like the rest of us did.I am not talking about religion or reptiles either.I am VERY interested in what he is saying about the Orwellian society we are finding ourselves living in in England.I am very interested in what else is going to happen here as he warns us of these things.As I said previously-we have only to sit back and wait.

[chester]

Pat...may i have a sit and wait with you. I want so much to thank you for your posts, and more importantly for being such a loving mum to your animals. You have more than i ever will, and in more sizes...and you fight for them against morgellons. Because of this i see you as so much stronger than me....and i confess i would bring you my broken heart for you to fix, concerning my fight to rid my two oldest dogs of morgellons before they died of old age. I felt like such a failure, yet they taught me about this mystery. But, i still cry for their suffering that went on unknown to me, and i admire you for your strength to go on . I tried to think of words to thank you, and all i do is cry, and here i go again, so maybe i have to wait to sit and wait with you, for you dont need my broken heart to fix also. Just knowing your story helps me know that in trying to help i learned, but oh...i miss them so.

[pat]

Thank you for your kind comments.No Chester,you didn't fail, if you did then so did I.None of us could have envisioned something as dreadful as this.Vets here have no idea of it and can only give steroids for stubborn symptoms, which is no good whatsoever.
My strength when I have had to put my animals to sleep must be sent from above,for I have wished the floor would open up and swallow me as I have always stayed with them to the end -I owe them that.And they always come back home with me.
I look out of my kitchen window where maxipuss is and cry in a heartbeat.The guilt,-that I didn't realise what was wrong-but how could we chester? I know now what I'm fighting but doubt that I will be successful.Yes it makes me very angry,thats where the fight comes from,when I see young hens go blind and the only thing is to be pts.BUT they go painlessly which is a blessing.Same with my horse,no way would I have had him shot-he had the injection and knew nothing,and the vet battled for him for 4 hours when we had to call time.Many don't do this-they send them to feed the foxhunting dogs or sell them for a couple of hundred pounds to feed the French to get the vets fees back.It cost me almost $1000 that morning-and no horse at the end.He was buried where he lived happily for 5yrs.So when the raw grief subsides you know you did your best for your dogs(and all the other animals),gave them the best home and the best life.Do you think they would have wanted to be any place else? Not a chance. Miss them? Terribly! There is one problem though, when I meet them all again which one do I greet first?

[Natalie]

My spiritual awakening started back in 99 when I was deluged with awful symptoms, kids too. I got on my knees and said please God, whatever it takes, thy will be done for me. Everything started to brake down. People and places and situations were being torn from me. I was on a new quest of learning. Good books, conversations with God by Neale Donald Walsh, Edgar Cayce, Angels. Alot of stuff.

Would you not like me if I said I have been abducted by aliens in my childhood? Would you still like me if said I tried Heroin in 79? How bout if I said I hated men so bad cause of the abuse I wanted to go else where. To a cave?

Come the hell on people!

I like ceratain people like Sylvia Browne, who for the record!!!! SAID along time ago that a microscopic parasite would allude docs and make its way first from the east coast across the country. Causing bacterail infection and fungus.

There are alot of people who are messengers. Dont get upset if someone doesnt notice the one you like most. There are alot of them. But dont push one against another.

When we all settle down at night we only have ourselves( and of course thats God within us) so please dont go to bed unhappy. Jeepers, havent we done that enough in our own torrid relationships?

We are put together here to work this out. And I dont mean Morgellons goobers!! We are Spiritual beings and its OBVIOUS we are all soul mates here!!

See how nice that is? Families fight. Families make up.

YOu all gotta say Im sorry right in front of all of us!

Dont wait until the moons in Taurus, wich is in a couple of days.

I love everyone of you. Those that love David, those that love Sylvia, and those that dont even beleive in God.

Heaven is right here, you just cant see it. Your departed friends, animals too are with you. Talk to them, love them! They love you more than ever!

My cat Ralph was orange andd looked like Morris, he came to me in a dream and showed me how many fish he catches in the pond we lived near. THIS POND!! Heaven is here and he showed me! I also have a dog Named Heidi, a German Shepherd, she stayed by my bed when dad was mean. He only hit me not S abuse.

Boy oh boy do I love the spirit world. I love this world too. I love you people. I just dont fit in most places because of my beleifs. I STOPPED pushing them on to others cause they have to experience there own Nirvana.

Jesus is the rock of my salvation, His banner over me is LOVE

You dont have to be a Christian to understand the dude was awesome. You have to be confused to hurt another because of their beliefs.

Love hurts man!!!

Come on people now, smile on your brother,everybody get together try and love one another right now! Please??????

[chester]

The lamp God has given us is the Holy Spirit...to guide us unto all the truth. The fruits of the Holy Spirit are listed in Galations 5:22,23...Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self control. Gods free gift of the Holy Spirit are to "whoever asks". I am thankful this is a gift, otherwise how could i ever be good enough to earn it? It makes me smile, when inspite of my human condition, the Holy Spirit manages to produce good fruit in my life.This fruit is "the best medicine" for all our fleshGod is the lamp, we are the branches....look at all the good fruit. When it is dark, imagine the lamp and every berry full of light, shining in the darkness. That is what we are praying for on this forum....to bring light and love into this mystery.Thanks everyone for sharing your good fruit hereThanks for being Gods light in the darkness....and remember, the darkness never puts out the light!

[Natalie]

Most of the time I sleep Im dreaming about this disease. Im getting plastic bags for clothes, or trying to talk to my boys about there illness. Last nights dream I had worms after a Bm and tried to contain them, searching for the right way to collect and show doctors, but couldnt figure it out.

I woke this morning thinking about what I can learn from these experiences. Not the dreams, but everyday now. Ive been running in slow motion from every painful moment of my life. This illness is one of them.

If the holy Spirit resides in all of us, like the Bible says, then we are made in Gods image, we are never alone and there are no mistakes. We are working through the plan. Some may say we are not responsible for this life, or that God is a jerk cause we suffer. Maybe WE were jerks, so then God is a jerk sometimes, back to Spirit is in us... WE are responsible to face that wich is front of us! I cant look outside of myself and blame anyone for my pain or my illness, or the fact that someone irritates me. God is in all of us.


God gives us the ability to transform the dark into light. Can I use the Holy Spirit to beaar fruit? Yes if I want to.

This is not a message of religion. Nor am I trying to puruade you into my soul, you have your own. But when we are stripped of our bodies we finally see we are light and are all ONE.

Im still trying to live in the moment, no matter what that entails. Darn its hard.

I am Spiritually aware a little more everyday. I cant run anymore from this even when I want to, wich is about twice a week. Better than everyday!

We are all going to be ok. I know it.

I want so bad at times to quote scripture or tell you of someone who is a mystic and has ideas but something stops me at times. I dont have to present God to you. You know already! You may know that you dont know and thats ok too!

Im preaching again, sorry!!

Im just trying to meet you on a human and soul level. Heck Im bummed we are fighting too.

Im not going to give any more thought of sadness for this, all of us have to come together if we are to make strides with our life. Someone or something put us together for a reason, and Im not going to take that for granted. I appreciate everyone of you. There are no mistakes in life, only lessons.

Love Nat