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The agrobacterium in GM crops is not meant to be there when it hits our dinner plates, but what about a transmission window in time. A time when agro became resistant to the antibiotics, but nobody realised...so the crops grew with the agro on board.
and the possiblity of insects and rodents feeding on the growing crops and having their DNA infiltrated at that point? dying bees etc.... then the insects became vectors for the agrobacterium to animals and us. Is this why the great variety of creatures in our skins, often have fibre connections?

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Hi Jo.
I was reading last night about the cattle eating GMO feed, and then I thought "and then we eat the beef that ate the feed."
I don't know... I was just pondering...
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Hi 2many, all,
ANYWAY ......I'm not convinced right now that eating GM foods in themselves cause the development of morgellons. One side of my brain says "if this was the case, millions would have come down with Morgs", and other side says "maybe millions have morgs but symptoms are at bay"
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Hi Jo; sorry, I forgot something.
I know, I don't either, but I am leaning the GMO way very heavily. Mr. Carnicom wrote me that now 20 non-Morgellons people have taken the wine-peroxide test, and all 20 of them tested positive.
When I read that, I arranged for a test of the same kind, and the result was positive.
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It seems like his denial was much stronger than any accusations made regarding GMOs. I think a quote from Shakespeare might apply here: “Me thinks thou dost protest too much”.
Another thing is that Dr. Citovsky seemed downright antagonistic towards Morgellons sufferers in this interview. I hadn’t noticed that antagonistic tone or attitude in his previous interviews on the subject. It seems strange to me that he suddenly sees Morgellons sufferers as “complainers” and claims that it is “sheer lunacy” to think that it would...He has tried to make a link to people being exposed to dirt, but I would suspect that not every Morgellons sufferer has had any significant contact with actual soil or dirt where agrobacterium was present.
This also made me wonder about how agrobacterium has recently been found in and on intravenous catheters in Intensive Care patients. Generally ICUs are a relatively sterile environment and the nurses and doctors that would be handling these catheters would be wearing latex gloves and would be fairly sterile themselves. Exactly how does agrobacterium get in or on an intravenous catheter at the implantation site? The only logical explanation I see is that the agrobacterium came from the patient’s own body! Have all the people that have had this occur also been “digging in the dirt” (as Dr. Citovsky and others have implied recently)? I think the chances are much higher that they have all eaten GM food since it has permeated the food supply like it has, and the GM food may be the source of the agrobacterium.
I also wondered about the estimate of half a million people too KarenAnne. It seems like he knows (or at least suspects) more than is being let on my most people to me (it could be speculation, but it might not be either). There are reports of Morgellons everywhere in the US (not just the 3 “hot spots” so often mentioned) and more and more people in the UK and other parts of Europe and Canada are reporting it as well. One thing all these countries have in common is that GM foods have been allowed into the food supply in the last 15 years or so.
Hi 2many.
He seems to have done a complete 360 degree turnaround. Reading his older quotes, then the new one, seemed like it was two completely different people talking. He protested way too much. He must have never heard the suggestion, that if you are going to lie, make it simple. The more you explain, the worse it looks.
On the number of sufferers, every single state in the nation has patients now, with many countries oversees as well.
My personal estimation for the US HAD been, until yesterday, upwards of 60,000.
But after what Kilani said (sp ?? ) now I'm thinking that the world population may already be exposed.
As I read Dr. Citovsky's words, they seemed heated, and then I read the " half a million patients, " and I thought to myself; "He slipped and said that without meaning to let it out."
On the IV's; the only way Agro can get in them is if the patient is carrying it. When we insert the IV initially, we use strict sterile technique. Afterwards, all IV care is also done with gloves. And now thinking how the critters/organism have gone right through a glove to the hand explains to me why the nursing profession is the hardest hit; second is teachers. Nurses are three times more than teachers.
I have yet to figure out why teachers are second; how they would fit in.
More later...
hugs to all,
Karen
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Hey what ever happened to Karenann anyway? Wonder where she is.

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