Bacterial Biofilms And Lyme Disease,

[sammy]

Not sure exactly what biofilm is. This morning I had yellow goo stuck under my eye and embeded in this was those black fibers or specs. This was after a shower and shampooing with sadalliac acid shapoo. sammy

[Sadsack]

Originally Posted by sammy

When you say you dont have lyme how many tests did you have done. I understand from people who have this one test is not enough too determine this. It has too be sent too a lab in calif sammy

I was tested with Western Blot three consecutive years. All 10 bands were flat - nothing. And my CD57 is very healthy. I also never had Lyme symptoms, so I am sure I do not and never did have Lyme.

SS

[Sadsack]

Originally Posted by sammy

Not sure exactly what biofilm is. This morning I had yellow goo stuck under my eye and embeded in this was those black fibers or specs. This was after a shower and shampooing with sadalliac acid shapoo. sammy

If you watch the videos biofilms are explained. Simply put, they are colonies of bacteria/fungus at various stages (cyst, spores, fully developed, etc) in a gel matrix. The film on your teeth when you wake up is an example. They are difficult to "kill" with antibiotics/antifungal because of the matrix, and have to be mechanically broken apart (like with a toothbrush). Just rinsing, even vigorously, with Listerine will not get rid of it.

SS

[tcmgpt13]

The Western blot often gives false negatives though, so it might be good to do one using the Igenex testing which is more likely to catch it.

Originally Posted by Sadsack

I was tested with Western Blot three consecutive years. All 10 bands were flat - nothing. And my CD57 is very healthy. I also never had Lyme symptoms, so I am sure I do not and never did have Lyme.

SS

[Sadsack]

Originally Posted by Katinka

According to my Lyme docs the main 'indicators' if you have Lyme is if the CD 56/57 titers are out of range or extremely low even if the various Lyme tests show up negative. He explained to me that these CD 56/57 titers are explicitly reacting to Lyme/Morgellons pathogens. I remember reading an article from ILADS where it said that those people who have a negative Lyme test but show low CD levels are highly infected with Lyme since a longer period of time which is the 'tricky' part of the disease.

Kat

Right; as I said, my CD57 was very healthy. And I had the Lyme test 3 years in a row and there was NO reaction on any of the 10 bands, ever. I don't have Lyme, never did.

SS

[Katinka]

Sadsack, so you're one of the 'cases' that has Morgellons but not Lyme's Disease. Just like the 5 morgies in the UK who all tested negative. Wonder what their (docs working on this) theory is now regarding Morgellons being a co-infection to Lyme's?? Or is it perhaps the other way around?.....

Kat

[pat]

Near the end of the article reference to lyme.
Maybe someone should contact this gal.
Emerging Diseases for the 21st Century

[lamb]

Thank you Pat. I just had a WTF moment as I can trace every bizarre symptom amongst my gang to coincide with this time table! HFS!
I just don't know what to say.