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Old June 22nd, 2009, 06:51 PM
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Okay….

So there are multiple bits of interest here.

I researched nematodes today because I wanted to see how they fit in. Things fly right past my head and no matter how much I might read about them, unless I keep one EAR open and plug the other, they leave the building.

So this comes up. I’m guessing ‘Kurt’ might possibly be someone we know from our forum, but maybe not. Sounds like maybe Steve Frey (lol…I’m so clueless) The ‘Nancy’ he references could be our sweetie Nancy (Chester) but maybe not…yes, Kritts…there ARE other Nancy’s in the world. Sometimes I feel like everyone on this forum knows who everyone is here and on every other related forum and I’m clueless. Probably better off.

Please everyone, if this has been brought up before, accept my apologies and show the links if you wish. The more info the better, but I just found out, or at least focused on it.

1. He’s talking about Vermox and Ketrax making a difference and is for killing nematodes.
2. Nematodes are sprayed directly on crops to kill insects.
( minor point I realize, but could be why so many of us are healthy eaters of vegetables and fruits?and have Morgellons??)
3. I just read on another link that nematodes are being placed in ticks and/or just released in tick populations order to kill Borrelliosis and other tick-borne diseases. I remember reading about that 2 years ago. Lovely. Well, if they knew for sure what the end implications might be.
guess they might realize these critters have sex with each other and other strangers not related.

This could explain how most of us also have Lyme along with Morgellons.

4. And on an unrelated note…Nancy started lymephotos which I have been trying to find out who it was. Hmmmm. Who could it be?

Okay….I’m finished thinking for the moment. Anyone have anything to add or comment on?

I wonder if these nematodes made to kill pests in the crops are the same or similar to the ones used to kill the borrellia pathogen?

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Old June 22nd, 2009, 08:20 PM
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Hello Kritts,
You are right it does explain alot of things associated with our disease.that would explain why some of us don't have lyme disease(i don't) it we were infected by a different vector. maybe thats why i lost my vision because i was infected in hawaii and had a form of Loa-loa.different speices slightly different variations of infection.from everything i've been researching about them that these type of threadworm nematodes are everywhere naturally and unnatturally but they are so understudied until recently there has never been much known about them.but its believed the freeliving,parasitic and beneficial nematodes are all very similar to one another! they use different nematodes to kill dif speices of bugs. they also use nematodes themselves to eat bothersome nematodes that are eating crops.imagine that nematodes eating other nematodes! now thats insane! so i do know what you mean kritts. these creatures are viscous in nature their main purpose in life is to exist ,adapt and survive.thats it. thanks for bringing this up.you know how i feel on this matter.
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Old June 22nd, 2009, 08:27 PM
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Yes Robin,

With dna recombination they can now make a nematode, virus, bacteria etc. do specifically what they want. They've basically taken away their natural genetics and made frankencritters out of them. They can't google their family tree and think there is any way their grandcritters will have the pure blood they once could. (now I'm getting sick, huh? lol)

I'd love to know what it is that Willie Burgdorferi 'didn't' tell us in that interview. (as if we don't already know)

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Old June 22nd, 2009, 10:56 PM
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I did a forum search on Chitinase before posting this but decided not to bring back other threads on it. It's been mentioned for various implications, but this link discusses the possibility that if something is found to inhibit the chitin, nematodes will not reproduce.

I hope they get to working on this....CHIT!

HTTP://WWW.PUBMEDCENTRAL.NIH.GOV/ART...?ARTID=2223672
ESSENTIAL ROLE OF CHITINASE IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF FILARIAL NEMATODES
Using RNA interference experiments, they demonstrate that this chitinase is essential for moulting of infective larvae and hatching of microfilariae. Thus, inhibition of the enzyme could provide a new approach for drug development.


microfilarial
The larva of worms in the superfamily Filarioidea. They are produced by adult worms residing in the bloodstream, tissues or body cavities, from where they can be ingested by biting insects. There they pass through a developmental stage and are transmitted to another permanent host when it is bitten by the insect. The microfilariae of some species are nocturnal and are therefore available for transmission only at night.

hEY, remember I posted some things about parasitic behaviour (from the book...Parasite Rex)? and how the parasite (in this case the microfilarial worm of the nematode) positions itself in the host so that it is convenient for the next host to find and take it? And remember about how this happens at night? (therefore the itching at night because of the activity in the skin, waiting for the next host (maybe a mosquito or spider) to take it?

Well. let's get on this chitinase destroyer, folks!

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Old June 22nd, 2009, 11:58 PM
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Hi Kritts,

You know I'm on board with all this!

Thanks for the very interesting post on nematodes, the pathogen that DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME.

I think some people are ASHAMED of having "worms" and can't deal with it.

I am a medical person and take it in stride. I've seen live cockroaches taken out of children's ears from living in an infested house. Nothing phases me! Doesn't mean I like it one bit though.

BTW, another interesting medical tibdit: we had a patient who never bathed and when we would lift up his skin folds for the doctor to examine, flies would be released and fly into the room. Yes, he had maggots growing in his skin.
Again, nothing phases me, certainly, nothing embarrasses me or makes me feel "less than".

I know I have nematodes and I won't let anybody (K and K) humiliate me because of it.

Thanks Kritts for acknowledging the PRIMARY pathogen in Morgellons.

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 12:22 AM
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Open letter to my Morgie family,

I love every one of you. I've had my run-in's as you all know. It's tough to do and it's tough to read.

I am sure nematodes are a part of this, (major) and other things as well, Sar. What you say is fascinating. (grosses me out though about squeezing and CRUSHING the heads though ) and the research Kam and Kat have done has to be acknowledged as well.

I just want to contribute and help bring to light what all is involved here.

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 05:00 AM
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....and if they haven't been killed yet....so they live together happily ever after....

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 10:46 AM
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....and if they haven't been killed yet....so they live together happily ever after....
Right, Kat....we need each and every one of us on the same team, if it can be managed....

We are passionate and smart people....no pussyfooting around these here parts!

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Old June 23rd, 2009, 04:38 PM
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Hey there,
here is an article stating , with continued population growth and movement changes in human behavior and changes in the enviroment new human infectious diseases can be expected to continue to cross the speices barrier.given the dominance of invertebrae animal speices in the biophere, more invertebrate pathogens will likely emerge as agents of human infections!
Nematode Symbiont for Photorhabdus asymbiotica | CDC EID
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Old June 23rd, 2009, 04:50 PM
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Hello again,
Kritts i wanted to share this great site it really has some incredible pics it could possibly help people identify some of the crap they are finding! maybe?
Society of Nematologists
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